MDD - Opt-in vs Opt-out

[SyMutex]

@Ben

@SyMutex

The “need” for telemetry is BS. It’s fictitious.

I agree, entirely.

But it IS certainly extremely desirable.

Welcome to Moloch.

@Ben

@SyMutex

Now, they say they can’t get funding without telemetry and that the distro might be doomed otherwise.

I missed that - quote is needed before you make these statements please.

The connection between either accepting telemetry or possibly seeing the end of Manjaro, was made clear in this sequence of statements:

@Aragorn

However, Manjaro does also have a commercial arm, the Manjaro GmbH, registered in Germany, and it is this commercial arm which maintains partnerships with hardware vendors and third-party commercial software vendors.

@linux-aarhus

The hardware information on the other hand is useful in many ways.
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What if Manjaro Linux announced sunsetting the distribution due to the team deciding enough is enough?

So, what are we to understand from this? That either Manjaro GmbH gets the data they want to please their hardware vendor partners, or they call it a day?

Let me repeat my previous question that went unanswered:

@SyMutex

Who is pushing Manjaro into it? Their “hardware partners”? Will they have access to the data they collect?

The trust issue is not with the developers of Manjaro directly, but with the partnerships Manjaro GmbH possibly entered. Positive partnerships are things like Microsoft funding the Godot Project so they add C# support for everyone. Toxic partnership would be if a partner pushed Manjaro GmbH to either add telemetry so Manjaro can serve as a data collection platform for them, or they threaten to pull funding.