Mangohud and vkbasalt doesn't work

Mangohud and vkbasalt doesn’t work in any of my games, Mangohud doesn’t display the overlay and vkbasalt doesn’t do anything when i press the home key, they don’t work in a single game of mine except when i run Lutris from Steam, if i run Lutris normally it doesn’t work, i’ve installed them from AUR and i don’t know why it isn’t working in any of my games, i even tried using Goverlay to configure them but still doesn’t work, Mangohud only works when running Lutris through Steam, or running from Goverlay or terminal commands such as mangohud vkcube.

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I did but they only replied once or twice and the issue wasn’t solved