Kernel 6.5.x - Systems boots very slowly and doesn't shutdown

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Hello everyone,
since upgrading to kernel 6.5.x (any version including 6.5.5) my desktop PC boots very slowly and does not shut down.

When booting, after the BIOS I get a black screen for a very long time (about 30 minutes) before the Manjaro login screen shows up. Everything seems to work correctly afterwards, until I try to shutdown or reboot.

When shutting down, the following error is shown:

Timed out for waiting the udev queue being empty.

I’ve tried leaving the PC on but to no avail, I’ve always had to force shutdown by pressing the power button. It’s possible that waiting for a longer period of time would result in the PC shutting down by itself; I don’t know.

Reverting to kernel 6.4 solves the problem. I’ve tried reinstalling kernel 6.5 after every kernel update but nothing changed.

I’ve tried searching this forum and online for the error message but I couldn’t find anything related. Does anyone have any suggestion on how to solve this issue?

Thanks in advance for the help.

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Hi

Perhaps you can show the community some info about you’re system. There’s plenty information how you should do that on the forum.
Then there’s this thread, hope it might solve you’re problem.

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Hello and thanks for the quick reply.
Here is my inxi output:

System:
  Kernel: 6.4.16-5-MANJARO arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 13.2.1
    clocksource: tsc available: hpet,acpi_pm
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-6.4-x86_64
    root=UUID=921d454d-82dd-40c4-8cff-9cc99ed99802 rw quiet
    resume=UUID=3a7e77b7-84db-4c9e-9189-7edfe0c7bd0d
  Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.27.8 tk: Qt v: 5.15.10 info: latte-dock
    wm: kwin_x11 vt: 2 dm: SDDM Distro: Manjaro Linux base: Arch Linux
Machine:
  Type: Desktop Mobo: MEDIONPC model: MS-7707 v: 1.1
    serial: <superuser required> BIOS: American Megatrends v: E7707MLN.10E
    date: 04/01/2011
Battery:
  Message: No system battery data found. Is one present?
Memory:
  System RAM: total: 8 GiB available: 7.74 GiB used: 4.69 GiB (60.5%)
  RAM Report: permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required.
CPU:
  Info: model: Intel Core i7-2600 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Sandy Bridge
    gen: core 2 level: v2 built: 2010-12 process: Intel 32nm family: 6
    model-id: 0x2A (42) stepping: 7 microcode: 0x2F
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 4 tpc: 2 threads: 8 smt: enabled cache:
    L1: 256 KiB desc: d-4x32 KiB; i-4x32 KiB L2: 1024 KiB desc: 4x256 KiB
    L3: 8 MiB desc: 1x8 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 2170 high: 3119 min/max: 1600/3800 scaling:
    driver: intel_cpufreq governor: schedutil cores: 1: 2435 2: 2632 3: 1782
    4: 2357 5: 3119 6: 1851 7: 1594 8: 1596 bogomips: 54296
  Flags: acpi aes aperfmperf apic arat arch_perfmon avx bts clflush cmov
    constant_tsc cpuid cx16 cx8 de ds_cpl dtes64 dtherm dts epb ept est
    flexpriority flush_l1d fpu fxsr ht ibpb ibrs ida lahf_lm lm mca mce
    md_clear mmx monitor msr mtrr nonstop_tsc nopl nx pae pat pbe pcid
    pclmulqdq pdcm pebs pge pln pni popcnt pse pse36 pti pts rdtscp rep_good
    sep smx ssbd sse sse2 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 stibp syscall tm tm2 tpr_shadow
    tsc tsc_deadline_timer vme vmx vnmi vpid x2apic xsave xsaveopt xtopology
    xtpr
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled
  Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT
    vulnerable
  Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations
  Type: retbleed status: Not affected
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via
    prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer
    sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW,
    STIBP: conditional, RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GK106 [GeForce GTX 660] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: nvidia
    v: 470.199.02 alternate: nouveau,nvidia_drm non-free: series: 470.xx+
    status: legacy-active (EOL~2023/24) arch: Kepler code: GKxxx
    process: TSMC 28nm built: 2012-18 pcie: gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 16
    bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:11c0 class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: Trust Webcam driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo type: USB rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 bus-ID: 2-1.1:3 chip-ID: 145f:016f
    class-ID: 0102
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.8 with: Xwayland v: 23.2.1
    compositor: kwin_x11 driver: X: loaded: nvidia gpu: nvidia display-ID: :0
    screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 101 s-size: 483x272mm (19.02x10.71")
    s-diag: 554mm (21.82")
  Monitor-1: DVI-D-0 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 102
    size: 477x268mm (18.78x10.55") diag: 547mm (21.54") modes: N/A
  API: EGL v: 1.5 hw: drv: nvidia platforms: device: 0 drv: nvidia device: 2
    drv: swrast gbm: drv: kms_swrast surfaceless: drv: swrast x11: drv: nvidia
    inactive: wayland,device-1
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6.0 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: nvidia mesa v: 470.199.02
    glx-v: 1.4 direct-render: yes renderer: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660/PCIe/SSE2
    memory: 1.95 GiB
  API: Vulkan v: 1.3.264 layers: 5 device: 0 type: discrete-gpu
    name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 driver: nvidia v: 470.199.02
    device-ID: 10de:11c0 surfaces: xcb,xlib
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 6 Series/C200 Series Family High Definition Audio
    vendor: Micro-Star MSI 6 driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
    chip-ID: 8086:1c20 class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: NVIDIA GK106 HDMI Audio vendor: ASUSTeK driver: snd_hda_intel
    v: kernel pcie: gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 01:00.1
    chip-ID: 10de:0e0b class-ID: 0403
  Device-3: Trust Webcam driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo type: USB rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 bus-ID: 2-1.1:3 chip-ID: 145f:016f
    class-ID: 0102
  API: ALSA v: k6.4.16-5-MANJARO status: kernel-api with: aoss
    type: oss-emulator tools: alsactl,alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: sndiod v: N/A status: off tools: aucat,midicat,sndioctl
  Server-2: PipeWire v: 0.3.80 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse
    status: active 2: pipewire-media-session status: active 3: pipewire-alsa
    type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli
Network:
  Device-1: Intel 82579V Gigabit Network vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: e1000e
    v: kernel port: f040 bus-ID: 00:19.0 chip-ID: 8086:1503 class-ID: 0200
  IF: eno1 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Realtek RTL88x2bu [AC1200 Techkey] driver: rtl88x2bu type: USB
    rev: 2.1 speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 bus-ID: 2-1.6:7
    chip-ID: 0bda:b812 class-ID: 0000 serial: <filter>
  IF: wlp0s29u1u6 state: up mac: <filter>
  IP v4: <filter> type: dynamic noprefixroute scope: global
    broadcast: <filter>
  IP v6: <filter> type: noprefixroute scope: link
  Device-3: D-Link System AirPlus G DWL-G122 Wireless Adapter(rev.E1)
    [Ralink RT2070] driver: rt2800usb type: USB rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s
    lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 bus-ID: 3-1:2 chip-ID: 07d1:3c0f class-ID: 0000
    serial: <filter>
  IF: wlp3s0u1 state: up mac: <filter>
  IP v4: <filter> type: dynamic noprefixroute scope: global
    broadcast: <filter>
  IP v6: <filter> type: noprefixroute scope: link
  WAN IP: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Broadcom BCM2045 Bluetooth driver: btusb v: 0.8 type: USB rev: 2.0
    speed: 12 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 bus-ID: 2-1.7:6 chip-ID: 0a5c:2101
    class-ID: fe01
  Report: rfkill ID: hci0 rfk-id: 2 state: up address: see --recommends
Logical:
  Message: No logical block device data found.
RAID:
  Message: No RAID data found.
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 931.51 GiB used: 492.94 GiB (52.9%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Seagate model: ST31000528AS
    size: 931.51 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s
    tech: HDD rpm: 7200 serial: <filter> fw-rev: CC46 scheme: GPT
  Optical-1: /dev/sr0 vendor: TSSTcorp model: CDDVDW SH-S223C rev: me01
    dev-links: cdrom
  Features: speed: 52 multisession: yes audio: yes dvd: yes
    rw: cd-r,cd-rw,dvd-r,dvd-ram state: running
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 100 GiB size: 98.12 GiB (98.12%) used: 58.71 GiB (59.8%)
    fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda3 maj-min: 8:3 label: N/A
    uuid: 921d454d-82dd-40c4-8cff-9cc99ed99802
  ID-2: /boot raw-size: 512 MiB size: 511 MiB (99.80%)
    used: 123.9 MiB (24.2%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1 label: N/A
    uuid: 783C-FDE4
  ID-3: /home raw-size: 821.01 GiB size: 807.05 GiB (98.30%)
    used: 434.1 GiB (53.8%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda4 maj-min: 8:4 label: N/A
    uuid: 0608d4a3-fa49-4a60-b377-09c141769042
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 60 (default) cache-pressure: 100 (default) zswap: yes
    compressor: zstd max-pool: 20%
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 10 GiB used: 12 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2
    dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2 label: N/A
    uuid: 3a7e77b7-84db-4c9e-9189-7edfe0c7bd0d
Unmounted:
  Message: No unmounted partitions found.
USB:
  Hub-1: 1-0:1 info: full speed or root hub ports: 2 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-2: 1-1:2 info: Intel Integrated Rate Matching Hub ports: 6 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 8087:0024
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-3: 1-1.5:3 info: Alcor Micro USB Hub ports: 4 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 power: 100mA
    chip-ID: 058f:6254 class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 1-1.5.1:4 info: Alcor Micro USB Card Reader type: mass storage
    driver: usb-storage interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s)
    lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 power: 250mA chip-ID: 058f:6365 class-ID: 0806
    serial: <filter>
  Hub-4: 2-0:1 info: full speed or root hub ports: 2 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-5: 2-1:2 info: Intel Integrated Rate Matching Hub ports: 8 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 8087:0024
    class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 2-1.1:3 info: Trust Webcam type: video,audio
    driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo interfaces: 4 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 power: 500mA
    chip-ID: 145f:016f class-ID: 0102
  Device-2: 2-1.5:4 info: Holtek USB Gaming Mouse type: keyboard,mouse,HID
    driver: holtek_mouse,usbhid interfaces: 3 rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s (1.4 MiB/s)
    lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 power: 100mA chip-ID: 04d9:a070 class-ID: 0300
  Device-3: 2-1.6:7 info: Realtek RTL88x2bu [AC1200 Techkey] type: Network
    driver: rtl88x2bu interfaces: 1 rev: 2.1 speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s)
    lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 power: 500mA chip-ID: 0bda:b812 class-ID: 0000
    serial: <filter>
  Device-4: 2-1.7:6 info: Broadcom BCM2045 Bluetooth type: bluetooth
    driver: btusb interfaces: 4 rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s (1.4 MiB/s) lanes: 1
    mode: 1.1 power: 100mA chip-ID: 0a5c:2101 class-ID: fe01
  Hub-6: 3-0:1 info: hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 2 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
    class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 3-1:2 info: D-Link System AirPlus G DWL-G122 Wireless
    Adapter(rev.E1) [Ralink RT2070] type: Network driver: rt2800usb
    interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0
    power: 450mA chip-ID: 07d1:3c0f class-ID: 0000 serial: <filter>
  Hub-7: 4-0:1 info: super-speed hub ports: 2 rev: 3.0
    speed: 5 Gb/s (596.0 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-1x1 chip-ID: 1d6b:0003
    class-ID: 0900
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 51.0 C mobo: 39.0 C
  Fan Speeds (rpm): cpu: 0 fan-1: 1355 fan-3: 0
  Power: 12v: N/A 5v: N/A 3.3v: 3.38 vbat: 3.39
Info:
  Processes: 270 Uptime: 46m wakeups: 0 Init: systemd v: 254 default: graphical
  tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 13.2.1 alt: 10/9 clang: 16.0.6 Packages:
  pm: pacman pkgs: 2555 libs: 590 tools: pacaur,pamac,yay pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
  Shell: Bash v: 5.1.16 running-in: konsole inxi: 3.3.30

This being a production machine in currently running kennel 6.4, which works, but if needed I can reinstall kennel 6.5 for testing.

I’ve checked the thread you suggested, I had noticed it while searching the forum but the issue seems quite different. In my case the system boots, albeit very slowly.

Any suggestions?
Thanks again for the help

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I had a similar experience which was attributable to the same GTX 660 model some years ago (in a Debian derivitive). I’m afraid I don’t recall how I overcame that, but it may help to narrow the search.

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You could try to restore the boot loader.

You have a /boot partition but no /boot/efi partition. How did you mount your ESP?

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What is your use case for requiring the latest kernel on a system where both cpu + gpu (and motherboard BIOS) are more than 10 years old? You’d probably be better off with 6.1 LTS.

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After some thinking I decided to just go that way. I reverted to 6.1; maybe I’ll upgrade to the next LTS ignoring other kernels.
Thanks to everyone for the suggestions

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