Kde plasma 6.3.5, when the Settings menu was opened, scrolling the mouse wheel caused the desktop to crash

The specific manifestation is that the system Settings window closes unexpectedly, and Dr Konqi pops up a prompt asking to report the defect. When you open the application launcher and scroll the wheel, a similar problem will occur, but it will prompt a plasmashell crash. The following is my diary:

May 12 20:02:37 linux systemsettings[18303]: KCrash: Application 'systemsettings' crashing... crashRecursionCounter = 2

#2  0x00007bcb30d6fd47 _ZN6KCrash19defaultCrashHandlerEi (libKF6Crash.so.6 + 0x7d47)

#16 0x00007bcb3086d5f8 _ZN12QQuickWindow5eventEP6QEvent (libQt6Quick.so.6 + 0x26d5f8)

May 12 20:02:39 linux systemd[759]: Started Launch DrKonqi for a systemd-coredump crash (PID 18364/UID 0).

May 12 20:02:47 linux kwin_wayland[809]: kf.config.core: Watching absolute paths is not supported "/home/cxy/.local/share/color-schemes/WhiteSurDark.colors"

may 12 20:03:25 linux kwin_wayland[809]: kf.windowsystem: static bool KX11Extras::mapViewport() may only be used on X11

May 12 20:04:09 linux systemsettings[18820]: KCrash: Application 'systemsettings' crashing... crashRecursionCounter = 2

#2  0x00007d4dec1a5d47 _ZN6KCrash19defaultCrashHandlerEi (libKF6Crash.so.6 + 0x7d47)

#16 0x00007d4debc6d5f8 _ZN12QQuickWindow5eventEP6QEvent (libQt6Quick.so.6 + 0x26d5f8)

May 12 20:04:10 linux systemd[759]: Started Launch DrKonqi for a Systemd-core dump crash (PID 18880/UID 0).

May 12 20:04:19 linux kwin_wayland[809]: kf.config.core: Watching absolute paths is not supported "/home/cxy/.local/share/color-schemes/WhiteSurDark.colors"

May 12 20:07:30 linux kwin_wayland_wrapper[916]: I2025-05-12 20:07:30.198631 instance.cpp:1232] Running autosave...

May 12 20:07:30 linux kwin_wayland_wrapper[916]: I2025-05-12 20:07:30.234213 instance.cpp:1234] End autosave

May 12 20:12:53 linux systemsettings[20046]: KCrash: Application 'systemsettings' crashing... crashRecursionCounter = 2

#2  0x000078184854fd47 _ZN6KCrash19defaultCrashHandlerEi (libKF6Crash.so.6 + 0x7d47)

#16 0x000078184806d5f8 _ZN12QQuickWindow5eventEP6QEvent (libQt6Quick.so.6 + 0x26d5f8)

May 12 20:12:54 linux systemd[759]: Started Launch DrKonqi for a Systemd-core dump crash (PID 20107/UID 0).

May 12 20:13:22 linux systemsettings[20184]: KCrash: Application 'systemsettings' crashing... crashRecursionCounter = 2

#2  0x000076972db43d47 _ZN6KCrash19defaultCrashHandlerEi (libKF6Crash.so.6 + 0x7d47)

#16 0x000076972d66d5f8 _ZN12QQuickWindow5eventEP6QEvent (libQt6Quick.so.6 + 0x26d5f8)

May 12 20:13:24 linux systemd[759]: Started Launch DrKonqi for a Systemd-core dump crash (PID 20245/UID 0).

May 12 20:15:51 linux plasmashell[3233]: KCrash: Application 'plasmashell' crashing... crashRecursionCounter = 2

#2  0x0000759e39fd4d47 _ZN6KCrash19defaultCrashHandlerEi (libKF6Crash.so.6 + 0x7d47)

#16 0x0000759e38e6d5f8 _ZN12QQuickWindow5eventEP6QEvent (libQt6Quick.so.6 + 0x26d5f8)

May 12 20:15:54 linux systemd[759]: Started Launch DrKonqi for a systemd-coredump crash (PID 20665/UID 0).

May 12 20:15:54 linux drkonqi-coredump-launcher[20770]:                 #2  0x0000759e39fd4d47 _ZN6KCrash19defaultCrashHandlerEi (libKF6Crash.so.6 + 0x7d47)

May 12 20:15:54 linux drkonqi-coredump-launcher[20770]:                 #16 0x0000759e38e6d5f8 _ZN12QQuickWindow5eventEP6QEvent (libQt6Quick.so.6 + 0x26d5f8)

May 12 20:17:23 linux kwin_wayland[809]: kf.config.core: Watching absolute paths is not supported "/home/cxy/.local/share/color-schemes/WhiteSurDark.colors"
sudo downgrade kirigami

from 6.14.0 to 6.13.0, the problem has been solved.

Wow, the start menu bug is much more serious. I usually do not scroll in there but it freezes the whole system for a bit. KDE Plasma releasing updates without proper checks is a reality i assume. We need to be wary.

Where’s the Start Menu. I wasn’t aware KDE had one. I thought that was a Windows Anti Feature.

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Kernel 6.13.12 is EOL for the the 6.13.x kernel. You would be better off going to 6.12.x as that series is LTS.

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What you call ā€œapplication launcherā€ i call ā€œstart menuā€. I have a long history with windows so yeah, that is a start menu to me :slight_smile:

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I notice that is an ARM issue, not x86.

Downgrading kirigami fixes it too.

I run Plasma 6, and I don’t have a Start Menu. I do however have an Application Dashboard.

In order to get proper assistance with GNU/Linux, it pays to name things for what they are, not for what something with a similar appearance or functionality is called in an operating system that doesn’t even remotely have anything to do with UNIX. :wink:

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Yep, Me Too.

I open mine by moving the Mouse pointer to the top LH corner of my screen.

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The issue is not architectural related: 503703 – With qt 6.9.0 simple scrolling crashes the apps (and plasmashell)

Qt 6.9 is at fault here. Also kirigami is known to have issues …

So we’re going to be skipping that, right? :stuck_out_tongue:

I could be wrong, but I seem to have read that they’ve been working on Kirigami recently… :thinking:

Else they say revert of this: WheelHandler: smooth scroll for a greater variety of movement sizes (!1773) Ā· Merge requests Ā· Frameworks / Kirigami Ā· GitLab. Well we already ship Qt 6.9, hence the error. Also is the issue on x11 or wayland or both?

I’m on Wayland and I am not experiencing any crashes. :man_shrugging:

What I am seeing is that scrolling sometimes abruptly halts and that you have to click or focus something else first in order to break out of the frozen menu.

I checked with KDE devs. Reverting WheelHandler: smooth scroll for a greater variety of movement sizes (!1773) Ā· Merge requests Ā· Frameworks / Kirigami Ā· GitLab seems safe. Arch devs are informed and KDE devs try to fix it. I can check later.

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However now the feedback is: someone says it doesn't fix the issue for them; hole on while we figure it out

So for now: don’t scroll. Who needs that anyway :smile:

… lets see what the actual fix will be.

Same here. I’ve noticed no issues.

Well, there’s the… :point_down:

… but that’s not a crash, of course. It’s more of a hiccup. :man_shrugging:

Yes I saw you had posted that comment, but no, I’ve noticed no issues.

This is a fascinating decision… especially when there is a much broader scope for launching applications in Linux than the one-horse show that is the Windows 95 Start Menu.

Technical ambiguity is the main reaction to your misnomer… and using ā€˜Start Menu’ labels you as a habitual Windows user in a foreign environment, which is very likely to invite condescension from Linux users who aspire to educate, use more precise terminology - especially when troubleshooting or giving instructions.

Regards.

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