I broke my bootloader

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I have looked through the forums but I don’t want to randlomly try bits of advice as Ive already screwed up my system several times over following advice.

So here’s what I did. I just Installed Manajro again yesterday. Today I installed Garuda on a different drive with the Bootloader on the same drive as Garuda And Manajros bootloader would be on the Manajro drive.

Now my Manjaro drive no longer boots.

I get the following message

Welcome to Grub
Error: No such device (string of letters)
Error: Unknown Ffilesystem
Entering Rescue Mode.

I can still get into Manajro via the Garuda drive but I would like the Manajro bootloader back.

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Boot up from the Manjaro live USB, open up a terminal window, and issue the following commands. :arrow_down:

sudo su -
manjaro-chroot -a

Select your Manjaro installation. Then proceed with the following commands. :arrow_down:

grub-install --recheck
update-grub
sync && exit

Cross your fingers and reboot. :stuck_out_tongue:

:crossed_fingers:

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Are you referring to EFI boot loaders? If so, see below.

If not @Aragorn 's post ^^^ (Simultaneous posts…)

Do you have a FAT formatted EFI partition on each hard drive?

You should have a folder in that partition in /EFI/ called Manjaro - That’s your Manjaro boot loader

If you haven’t set up rEFInd already I recommend getting that set up as a first step - You can then set that as your boot choice in the BIOS and it will pick up the other boot loaders it can find, as well as alternative kernels.

If you’ve hosed the exiting EFI bootloader you may find that the fallback one (usually called boot) may work for the drive instead - You can make a copy of this and rename it as one possible recovery option.

There are a lot of options here, but I recommend the following to play safely…

  1. Install and setup rEFInd - The documentation is very good - I learned a lot doing this
  2. In your EFI partitions create a folder called IGNORE (You can move any boot loaders you don’t want to use in here - rEFInd will ignore this folder and it’s better than deleting stuff until you know it’s not needed!!)
  3. To make things easier, create a shared ext4 partition (if you don’t already) and add a directory to it called mnt-efi using sudo (root should own this!) - In there add a script that mounts your EFI partitions so that you can use it in any partition easilly to manipulate your boot loaders - it’s worth it’s weight in gold.
  4. Sometimes moving boot loaders between drives works and sometimes it doesn’t - keep a copy in IGNORE on the source drive and try it - if it fails, just put it back.
  5. Keep a Live USB handy in case you hose all the bootloaders - As long as rEFInd is there and you have the shared mnt-efi to work with moving between your installed Linux distros and the live USB as necessary to complete the job will be easy.

This is my mount-efi script - It won’t be appropriate for your setup, but it gives you an idea…

echo "Mounting EFI partitions..."
mount /dev/nvme0n1p1 /shared/mnt-efi/nvme0n1
mount /dev/nvme1n1p1 /shared/mnt-efi/nvme1n1
mount /dev/sdc1 /shared/mnt-efi/sdc

echo "Partitions mounted"

This gives me a directory structure for each hard drive that then contains an EFI folder I can interrogate.

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Boot up from the Manjaro live USB, open up a terminal window, and issue the following commands.

sudo su -
manjaro-chroot -a

That Gave me a No Linux partitions found. Which is silly as there are 2 and at least one of them boots.

5

Do you have a FAT formatted EFI partition on each hard drive?

No. I just went with the default Manajro setup. There is only 1 btrfs partition and a swap partition.

6

Did you boot in the same mode as they are installed?
(UEFI as opposed to legacy-bios?)

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Did you boot in the same mode as they are installed?
(UEFI as opposed to legacy-bios?)

I dont understand the question.

I just switch the computer on and let it boot. To boot from a different drive I just hold down F12 and select the drive I want to boot from. ie Install media or switching to the other working Linux install.

8

Depending on how your BIOS/EFI works it may have different keys for different operations or list the entries differently such as

Sandisk 32 GB USB (EFI)
Sandisk 32 GB USB

Its important to be in the ‘same mode’ because the 2 will not interact well.

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I also think you managed to install manjaro on one disk in UEFI and Garuda on the other in MBR mode, or vice versa.
You can check with the following command in terminal (on each OS).

[ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS
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Running this command on both systems

[ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS

I can confirm that both show as Bios.

Also I somehow managed to break Garuda. I only copied across a few dot files for installed programs. i didn’t even copy across any system related dot files but somehow I made Garuda non-bootable. So I’ve had to re-install that.

I’ve not had a good week. I’ve had Manjaro and Garuda working great for over a year. And now Everything I touch seems to be breaking and while I’m OK to have to re-install I really don’t want to loose my dot files.

For what its worth I forrgot to do the inxi thing. So here it is:

 inxi --admin --verbosity=7 --filter --no-host --width                                                                                                                                                                        ✔ 
System:
  Kernel: 6.3.10-1-MANJARO arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 13.1.1
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/@/boot/vmlinuz-6.3-x86_64
    root=UUID=5d4ba93c-6239-4b42-b587-c9cbc08d78cc rw rootflags=subvol=@ quiet
    splash resume=UUID=b6f424ae-1978-4547-87be-dfabe587f19d
    udev.log_priority=3
  Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.27.6 tk: Qt v: 5.15.10 wm: kwin_x11 vt: 2 dm: SDDM
    Distro: Manjaro Linux base: Arch Linux
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Gigabyte product: X570 AORUS ELITE v: -CF
    serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Gigabyte model: X570 AORUS ELITE v: x.x serial: <superuser required>
    BIOS: American Megatrends v: F30 date: 09/15/2020
Battery:
  Message: No system battery data found. Is one present?
Memory:
  System RAM: available: 31.29 GiB used: 4.1 GiB (13.1%)
  RAM Report: permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required.
CPU:
  Info: model: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen 3+ gen: 4
    level: v3 note: check built: 2022 process: TSMC n6 (7nm) family: 0x19 (25)
    model-id: 0x21 (33) stepping: 2 microcode: N/A
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 8 tpc: 2 threads: 16 smt: enabled cache:
    L1: 512 KiB desc: d-8x32 KiB; i-8x32 KiB L2: 4 MiB desc: 8x512 KiB L3: 96 MiB
    desc: 1x96 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 2180 high: 2200 min/max: 2200/3400 boost: enabled
    scaling: driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: schedutil cores: 1: 2200 2: 2195
    3: 2200 4: 2137 5: 2182 6: 2200 7: 2151 8: 2193 9: 2200 10: 2200 11: 2153
    12: 2200 13: 2200 14: 2200 15: 2159 16: 2118 bogomips: 108641
  Flags: 3dnowprefetch abm adx aes aperfmperf apic arat avic avx avx2 bmi1
    bmi2 bpext cat_l3 cdp_l3 clflush clflushopt clwb clzero cmov cmp_legacy
    constant_tsc cpb cpuid cqm cqm_llc cqm_mbm_local cqm_mbm_total
    cqm_occup_llc cr8_legacy cx16 cx8 de decodeassists erms extapic
    extd_apicid f16c flushbyasid fma fpu fsgsbase fsrm fxsr fxsr_opt ht
    hw_pstate ibpb ibrs ibs invpcid irperf lahf_lm lbrv lm mba mca mce
    misalignsse mmx mmxext monitor movbe msr mtrr mwaitx nonstop_tsc nopl npt
    nrip_save nx ospke osvw overflow_recov pae pat pausefilter pclmulqdq
    pdpe1gb perfctr_core perfctr_llc perfctr_nb pfthreshold pge pku pni popcnt
    pse pse36 rapl rdpid rdpru rdrand rdseed rdt_a rdtscp rep_good sep sha_ni
    skinit smap smca smep ssbd sse sse2 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 stibp succor
    svm svm_lock syscall tce topoext tsc tsc_scale umip v_spec_ctrl
    v_vmsave_vmload vaes vgif vmcb_clean vme vmmcall vpclmulqdq wbnoinvd wdt
    xgetbv1 xsave xsavec xsaveerptr xsaveopt xsaves
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via
    prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer
    sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW,
    STIBP: always-on, RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Navi 21 [Radeon RX 6800/6800 XT / 6900 XT] vendor: Sapphire
    driver: amdgpu v: kernel arch: RDNA-2 code: Navi-2x process: TSMC n7 (7nm)
    built: 2020-22 pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 ports:
    active: DP-1,DP-3 empty: DP-2,HDMI-A-1 bus-ID: 0b:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:73bf
    class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: Logitech HD Webcam C525 driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo type: USB
    rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 bus-ID: 5-2.4:6
    chip-ID: 046d:0826 class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter>
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.8 with: Xwayland v: 23.1.2
    compositor: kwin_x11 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu unloaded: modesetting,radeon
    alternate: fbdev,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu display-ID: :0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 3840x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 1016x285mm (40.00x11.22")
    s-diag: 1055mm (41.54")
  Monitor-1: DP-1 mapped: DisplayPort-0 pos: primary,left
    model: LG (GoldStar) 27GL650F serial: <filter> built: 2019 res: 1920x1080
    hz: 144 dpi: 82 gamma: 1.2 size: 597x336mm (23.5x13.23") diag: 609mm (24")
    ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 1920x1080 min: 720x400
  Monitor-2: DP-3 mapped: DisplayPort-2 pos: right
    model: LG (GoldStar) 27GL650F serial: <filter> built: 2019 res: 1920x1080
    hz: 144 dpi: 82 gamma: 1.2 size: 597x336mm (23.5x13.23") diag: 609mm (24")
    ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 1920x1080 min: 720x400
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 23.1.3 renderer: AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT (navi21
    LLVM 15.0.7 DRM 3.52 6.3.10-1-MANJARO) direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: AMD Navi 21/23 HDMI/DP Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie:
    gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 0b:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:ab28
    class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: AMD Starship/Matisse HD Audio vendor: Gigabyte
    driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16
    bus-ID: 0d:00.4 chip-ID: 1022:1487 class-ID: 0403
  Device-3: Logitech HD Webcam C525 driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo type: USB
    rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 bus-ID: 5-2.4:6
    chip-ID: 046d:0826 class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter>
  Device-4: Focusrite-Novation Scarlett 2i4 driver: snd-usb-audio type: USB
    rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 bus-ID: 5-4.3:8
    chip-ID: 1235:800a class-ID: fe01
  API: ALSA v: k6.3.10-1-MANJARO status: kernel-api with: aoss
    type: oss-emulator tools: alsactl,alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: sndiod v: N/A status: off tools: aucat,midicat,sndioctl
  Server-2: PipeWire v: 0.3.71 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse
    status: active 2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin
    4: pw-jack type: plugin tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Intel I211 Gigabit Network vendor: Gigabyte driver: igb v: kernel
    pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: f000 bus-ID: 05:00.0
    chip-ID: 8086:1539 class-ID: 0200
  IF: enp5s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
  IP v4: <filter> type: dynamic noprefixroute scope: global
    broadcast: <filter>
  IP v6: <filter> type: noprefixroute scope: link
  WAN IP: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Cambridge Silicon Radio Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode) driver: btusb
    v: 0.8 type: USB rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 bus-ID: 1-3.4.4:9
    chip-ID: 0a12:0001 class-ID: e001
  Report: rfkill ID: hci0 rfk-id: 0 state: down bt-service: enabled,running
    rfk-block: hardware: no software: yes address: see --recommends
Logical:
  Message: No logical block device data found.
RAID:
  Message: No RAID data found.
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 16.7 TiB used: 4.58 TiB (27.4%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Sabrent
    model: SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-2TB size: 1.82 TiB block-size: physical: 512 B
    logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 tech: SSD serial: <filter>
    fw-rev: RKT4B5.1 temp: 34.9 C scheme: MBR
  ID-2: /dev/nvme1n1 maj-min: 259:3 vendor: Sabrent model: N/A size: 1.86 TiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4
    tech: SSD serial: <filter> fw-rev: RKT303.3 temp: 27.9 C scheme: MBR
  ID-3: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 870 QVO 2TB
    size: 1.82 TiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s
    tech: SSD serial: <filter> fw-rev: 2B6Q scheme: MBR
  ID-4: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: Western Digital
    model: WD60EZAZ-00SF3B0 size: 5.46 TiB block-size: physical: 4096 B
    logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s tech: HDD rpm: 5400 serial: <filter>
    fw-rev: 0A80 scheme: GPT
  ID-5: /dev/sdc maj-min: 8:32 vendor: Western Digital
    model: WD60EZAZ-00SF3B0 size: 5.46 TiB block-size: physical: 4096 B
    logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s tech: HDD rpm: 5400 serial: <filter>
    fw-rev: 0A80 scheme: GPT
  ID-6: /dev/sdd maj-min: 8:48 vendor: SanDisk model: USB 3.2Gen1
    size: 232.88 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: USB
    rev: 3.2 spd: 5 Gb/s lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-1x1 tech: N/A serial: <filter>
    fw-rev: 1.00 scheme: MBR
  SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure?
  ID-7: /dev/sdf maj-min: 8:80 vendor: Generic model: Flash Disk
    size: 58.59 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: USB rev: 3.2
    spd: 5 Gb/s lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-1x1 tech: SSD serial: <filter>
    fw-rev: 8.01 scheme: MBR
  SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure?
  Message: No optical or floppy data found.
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 1.81 TiB size: 1.81 TiB (100.00%) used: 671.32 GiB (36.2%)
    fs: btrfs dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1 maj-min: 259:1 label: MANJARO
    uuid: 5d4ba93c-6239-4b42-b587-c9cbc08d78cc
  ID-2: /home raw-size: 1.81 TiB size: 1.81 TiB (100.00%)
    used: 671.32 GiB (36.2%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1 maj-min: 259:1
    label: MANJARO uuid: 5d4ba93c-6239-4b42-b587-c9cbc08d78cc
  ID-3: /run/media/thedatabug/DOCUMENTS raw-size: 5.46 TiB
    size: 5.46 TiB (100.00%) used: 2.1 TiB (38.5%) fs: ntfs dev: /dev/sdc1
    maj-min: 8:33 label: DOCUMENTS uuid: 01D69E68678D01D0
  ID-4: /run/media/thedatabug/ENTERTAINMENT raw-size: 5.46 TiB
    size: 5.46 TiB (100.00%) used: 1.82 TiB (33.4%) fs: ntfs dev: /dev/sdb1
    maj-min: 8:17 label: ENTERTAINMENT uuid: 01D69E856214FD30
  ID-5: /var/cache raw-size: 1.81 TiB size: 1.81 TiB (100.00%)
    used: 671.32 GiB (36.2%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1 maj-min: 259:1
    label: MANJARO uuid: 5d4ba93c-6239-4b42-b587-c9cbc08d78cc
  ID-6: /var/log raw-size: 1.81 TiB size: 1.81 TiB (100.00%)
    used: 671.32 GiB (36.2%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1 maj-min: 259:1
    label: MANJARO uuid: 5d4ba93c-6239-4b42-b587-c9cbc08d78cc
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 60 (default) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 8.8 GiB used: 6.2 MiB (0.1%)
    priority: -2 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2 maj-min: 259:2 label: N/A
    uuid: b6f424ae-1978-4547-87be-dfabe587f19d
Unmounted:
  ID-1: /dev/nvme1n1p1 maj-min: 259:4 size: 1.83 TiB fs: btrfs label: N/A
    uuid: 9bb93585-f4e5-4cc7-82da-bbd5d82bc88f
  ID-2: /dev/nvme1n1p2 maj-min: 259:5 size: 34.41 GiB fs: swap label: swap
    uuid: 594ee3cc-5213-4a22-b9a2-f4fcf82fa213
  ID-3: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1 size: 1.82 TiB fs: ext4 label: GAMES
    uuid: 540a54c6-f85c-4888-ba19-b884f0f92ad4
  ID-4: /dev/sdd1 maj-min: 8:49 size: 232.87 GiB fs: vfat label: APP STICK
    uuid: 1D57-6408
  ID-5: /dev/sdf1 maj-min: 8:81 size: 58.56 GiB fs: exfat label: Ventoy
    uuid: 8676-3B3D
  ID-6: /dev/sdf2 maj-min: 8:82 size: 32 MiB fs: vfat label: VTOYEFI
    uuid: 7CDB-00D9
USB:
  Hub-1: 1-0:1 info: hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 6 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-2: 1-3:2 info: Genesys Logic Hub ports: 4 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 power: 100mA
    chip-ID: 05e3:0608 class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 1-3.1:4 info: Razer USA Naga Trinity type: mouse,keyboard
    driver: razermouse,usbhid interfaces: 3 rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s (1.4 MiB/s)
    lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 power: 500mA chip-ID: 1532:0067 class-ID: 0300
    serial: <filter>
  Device-2: 1-3.2:6 info: Microdia Backlit Gaming Keyboard
    type: keyboard,mouse driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 2 rev: 2.0
    speed: 12 Mb/s (1.4 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 power: 400mA
    chip-ID: 0c45:652f class-ID: 0301
  Device-3: 1-3.3:7 info: HP Photosmart 6520 series
    type: printer,mass storage driver: usb-storage,usblp interfaces: 4 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 power: 2mA
    chip-ID: 03f0:af11 class-ID: 0806 serial: <filter>
  Hub-3: 1-3.4:8 info: VIA Labs VL812 Hub ports: 4 rev: 2.1
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 2109:2812
    class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 1-3.4.4:9 info: Cambridge Silicon Radio Bluetooth Dongle (HCI
    mode) type: bluetooth driver: btusb interfaces: 2 rev: 2.0
    speed: 12 Mb/s (1.4 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 power: 100mA
    chip-ID: 0a12:0001 class-ID: e001
  Device-2: 1-4:3 info: Integrated Express IT8297 RGB LED Controller
    type: keyboard driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0
    speed: 12 Mb/s (1.4 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 power: 100mA
    chip-ID: 048d:8297 class-ID: 0301
  Device-3: 1-5:5 info: Google Nexus/Pixel Device (MTP) type: still imaging
    driver: N/A interfaces: 1 rev: 2.1 speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1
    mode: 2.0 power: 500mA chip-ID: 18d1:4ee1 class-ID: 0601 serial: <filter>
  Hub-4: 2-0:1 info: super-speed hub ports: 4 rev: 3.1
    speed: 10 Gb/s (1.16 GiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-2x1 chip-ID: 1d6b:0003
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-5: 3-0:1 info: hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 6 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-6: 3-6:2 info: Genesys Logic Hub ports: 4 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 power: 100mA
    chip-ID: 05e3:0608 class-ID: 0900
  Hub-7: 4-0:1 info: super-speed hub ports: 4 rev: 3.1
    speed: 10 Gb/s (1.16 GiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-2x1 chip-ID: 1d6b:0003
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-8: 5-0:1 info: hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 4 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-9: 5-2:2 info: Genesys Logic Hub ports: 4 rev: 2.1
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 power: 100mA
    chip-ID: 05e3:0610 class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 5-2.3:4 info: SHARKOON GmbH 2.4GHz Wireless rechargeable
    vertical mouse [More&Better] type: mouse driver: hid-generic,usbhid
    interfaces: 1 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s (1.4 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 1.1
    power: 100mA chip-ID: 1ea7:0064 class-ID: 0301
  Device-2: 5-2.4:6 info: Logitech HD Webcam C525 type: audio,video
    driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo interfaces: 4 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 power: 500mA
    chip-ID: 046d:0826 class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter>
  Hub-10: 5-3:3 info: Genesys Logic Hub ports: 4 rev: 2.1
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 power: 100mA
    chip-ID: 05e3:0610 class-ID: 0900
  Hub-11: 5-4:5 info: Genesys Logic Hub ports: 4 rev: 2.1
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 power: 100mA
    chip-ID: 05e3:0610 class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 5-4.2:7 info: Holtek USB Gaming Keyboard type: keyboard,HID
    driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 3 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s (1.4 MiB/s)
    lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 power: 100mA chip-ID: 04d9:a0f8 class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: 5-4.3:8 info: Focusrite-Novation Scarlett 2i4 type: audio
    driver: snd-usb-audio interfaces: 6 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s)
    lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 power: 500mA chip-ID: 1235:800a class-ID: fe01
  Hub-12: 6-0:1 info: super-speed hub ports: 4 rev: 3.1
    speed: 10 Gb/s (1.16 GiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-2x1 chip-ID: 1d6b:0003
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-13: 6-2:2 info: Genesys Logic Hub ports: 4 rev: 3.1
    speed: 5 Gb/s (596.0 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-1x1 chip-ID: 05e3:0626
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-14: 6-3:3 info: Genesys Logic Hub ports: 4 rev: 3.0
    speed: 5 Gb/s (596.0 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-1x1 chip-ID: 05e3:0612
    class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 6-3.3:5 info: SanDisk Ultra Flair type: mass storage
    driver: usb-storage interfaces: 1 rev: 3.2 speed: 5 Gb/s (596.0 MiB/s)
    lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-1x1 power: 896mA chip-ID: 0781:5591 class-ID: 0806
    serial: <filter>
  Device-2: 6-3.4:6 info: Alcor Micro Flash Drive type: mass storage
    driver: usb-storage interfaces: 1 rev: 3.2 speed: 5 Gb/s (596.0 MiB/s)
    lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-1x1 power: 800mA chip-ID: 058f:6387 class-ID: 0806
    serial: <filter>
  Hub-15: 6-4:4 info: Genesys Logic Hub ports: 4 rev: 3.0
    speed: 5 Gb/s (596.0 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-1x1 chip-ID: 05e3:0612
    class-ID: 0900
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 34.0 C mobo: 28.0 C gpu: amdgpu temp: 34.0 C
    mem: 40.0 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: amdgpu fan: 0
Info:
  Processes: 405 Uptime: 6m wakeups: 0 Init: systemd v: 253 default: graphical
  tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 13.1.1 clang: 15.0.7 Packages: 1607 pm: dpkg
  pkgs: 0 pm: pacman pkgs: 1562 libs: 429 tools: pamac,paru,yay pm: flatpak
  pkgs: 45 Shell: Zsh v: 5.9 default: Bash v: 5.1.16 running-in: konsole
  inxi: 3.3.27
11

Well, skipping all the particulars about booting and such…

As to the inxi:

Its a good idea to keep more than 1 kernel installed … especially if you are riding the most current releases. Also worth checking for any given issues. (6.1 is an LTS)…aso in conjunction with the next bit…

This is a pretty old BIOS … especially considering your zen3. (and newer kernel).
Update if/when you can.

12

I do have the LTS kernel installed as a backup. Its showing in Manjaro Settings.

I remember some time back trying to update the BIOS while I was still in Windows but the update refused to take. In the end I just left it as everything was working just fine.

I will give it another shot.

13

Yeah, that’s not how that works, you need to download a file, put it on a FAT32 formated usb stick (very important or the bios won’t be able to read the stick).
Make sure you get the correct revision when downloading from gigabytes website (Edit, I checked, there is only one revision so ignore the revision part). Only the MOTHERBORDNAME.F(VERSION) file is needed.
The bios file on my auros is called X670AORUSELITEAX.F9b, version 9, the “b” is beta.

You REALLY want to update your bios, those cpus (maybe not your particular model but the X3D models) have a history of turning your cpu into magma with old mb firmware.
There is a F38b, and if you didn’t have a X3D I would recommend you try the stable (non beta) first, but in this case I would go for the beta directly.

Keep the usb that you put the file onto in a slot and reboot.
Then you can enter bios when booting by spamming the delete key.
Then choose the flash utility, on my Aurus I think it is F9 inside the bios, select the usb-drive, select the file and choose update.
DO NOT TOUCH THE COMPUTER WHILE IT UPDATES, IT CAN TAKE LONG TIME AND RESTART MULTIPLE TIMES, JUST LET IT!!! DO NOT TOUCH!!!

When all is updated you need to redo all changes you had made in the bios (if you had changed anything) because most likely everything will be reverted to default.

14

OK then.

I downloaded the latest Bios and put it on the USB stick which still had F36 on it from the last time I attempted this. I really cant remeber what happened at the time but from memory it just kept coming up with errors and I didnt want to force the issue in case I was going to break something.

Anyway F38b updated just fine. Check it :slight_smile:

System:
  Kernel: 6.3.11-1-MANJARO arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 13.1.1
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/@/boot/vmlinuz-6.3-x86_64
    root=UUID=5d4ba93c-6239-4b42-b587-c9cbc08d78cc rw rootflags=subvol=@ quiet
    splash resume=UUID=b6f424ae-1978-4547-87be-dfabe587f19d
    udev.log_priority=3
  Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.27.6 tk: Qt v: 5.15.10 wm: kwin_x11 dm: SDDM
    Distro: Manjaro Linux base: Arch Linux
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Gigabyte product: X570 AORUS ELITE v: -CF serial: N/A
  Mobo: Gigabyte model: X570 AORUS ELITE serial: N/A BIOS: American
    Megatrends LLC. v: F38b date: 03/23/2023
Battery:
  Message: No system battery data found. Is one present?
Memory:
  System RAM: available: 31.26 GiB used: 4.26 GiB (13.6%)
  Array-1: capacity: 128 GiB slots: 4 EC: None max-module-size: 32 GiB
    note: est.
  Device-1: DIMM 0 type: no module installed
  Device-2: DIMM 1 type: DDR4 detail: synchronous unbuffered (unregistered)
    size: 16 GiB speed: 3600 MT/s volts: curr: 1.2 min: 1.2 max: 1.2
    width (bits): data: 64 total: 64 manufacturer: Corsair
    part-no: CMK32GX4M2D3600C18 serial: N/A
  Device-3: DIMM 0 type: no module installed
  Device-4: DIMM 1 type: DDR4 detail: synchronous unbuffered (unregistered)
    size: 16 GiB speed: 3600 MT/s volts: curr: 1.2 min: 1.2 max: 1.2
    width (bits): data: 64 total: 64 manufacturer: Corsair
    part-no: CMK32GX4M2D3600C18 serial: N/A
CPU:
  Info: model: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D socket: AM4 bits: 64 type: MT MCP
    arch: Zen 3+ gen: 4 level: v3 note: check built: 2022 process: TSMC n6 (7nm)
    family: 0x19 (25) model-id: 0x21 (33) stepping: 2 microcode: 0xA20120A
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 8 tpc: 2 threads: 16 smt: enabled cache:
    L1: 512 KiB desc: d-8x32 KiB; i-8x32 KiB L2: 4 MiB desc: 8x512 KiB L3: 96 MiB
    desc: 1x96 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 2350 high: 3400 min/max: 2200/4549 boost: enabled
    base/boost: 3400/3400 scaling: driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: schedutil
    volts: 1.1 V ext-clock: 100 MHz cores: 1: 3400 2: 3400 3: 2200 4: 2200
    5: 2200 6: 2200 7: 2200 8: 2200 9: 2200 10: 2200 11: 2200 12: 2200 13: 2200
    14: 2200 15: 2200 16: 2200 bogomips: 108859
  Flags: 3dnowprefetch abm adx aes aperfmperf apic arat avic avx avx2 bmi1
    bmi2 bpext cat_l3 cdp_l3 clflush clflushopt clwb clzero cmov cmp_legacy
    constant_tsc cpb cpuid cqm cqm_llc cqm_mbm_local cqm_mbm_total
    cqm_occup_llc cr8_legacy cx16 cx8 de decodeassists erms extapic
    extd_apicid f16c flushbyasid fma fpu fsgsbase fsrm fxsr fxsr_opt ht
    hw_pstate ibpb ibrs ibs invpcid irperf lahf_lm lbrv lm mba mca mce
    misalignsse mmx mmxext monitor movbe msr mtrr mwaitx nonstop_tsc nopl npt
    nrip_save nx ospke osvw overflow_recov pae pat pausefilter pclmulqdq
    pdpe1gb perfctr_core perfctr_llc perfctr_nb pfthreshold pge pku pni popcnt
    pse pse36 rapl rdpid rdpru rdrand rdseed rdt_a rdtscp rep_good sep sha_ni
    skinit smap smca smep ssbd sse sse2 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 stibp succor
    svm svm_lock syscall tce topoext tsc tsc_scale umip v_spec_ctrl
    v_vmsave_vmload vaes vgif vmcb_clean vme vmmcall vpclmulqdq wbnoinvd wdt
    x2apic xgetbv1 xsave xsavec xsaveerptr xsaveopt xsaves
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via
    prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer
    sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW,
    STIBP: always-on, RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Navi 21 [Radeon RX 6800/6800 XT / 6900 XT] vendor: Sapphire
    driver: amdgpu v: kernel arch: RDNA-2 code: Navi-2x process: TSMC n7 (7nm)
    built: 2020-22 pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 ports:
    active: DP-1,DP-3 empty: DP-2,HDMI-A-1 bus-ID: 0b:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:73bf
    class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: Logitech HD Webcam C525 driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo type: USB
    rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 bus-ID: 5-2.4:7
    chip-ID: 046d:0826 class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter>
  Display: server: X.Org v: 21.1.8 with: Xwayland v: 23.1.2
    compositor: kwin_x11 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu unloaded: modesetting,radeon
    alternate: fbdev,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu display-ID: :0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 3840x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 1016x285mm (40.00x11.22")
    s-diag: 1055mm (41.54")
  Monitor-1: DP-1 mapped: DisplayPort-0 pos: primary,left
    model: LG (GoldStar) 27GL650F serial: <filter> built: 2019 res: 1920x1080
    hz: 144 dpi: 82 gamma: 1.2 size: 597x336mm (23.5x13.23") diag: 609mm (24")
    ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 1920x1080 min: 720x400
  Monitor-2: DP-3 mapped: DisplayPort-2 pos: right
    model: LG (GoldStar) 27GL650F serial: <filter> built: 2019 res: 1920x1080
    hz: 144 dpi: 82 gamma: 1.2 size: 597x336mm (23.5x13.23") diag: 609mm (24")
    ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 1920x1080 min: 720x400
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 23.1.3 renderer: AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT (navi21
    LLVM 15.0.7 DRM 3.52 6.3.11-1-MANJARO) direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: AMD Navi 21/23 HDMI/DP Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie:
    gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 0b:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:ab28
    class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: AMD Starship/Matisse HD Audio vendor: Gigabyte
    driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16
    bus-ID: 0d:00.4 chip-ID: 1022:1487 class-ID: 0403
  Device-3: Logitech HD Webcam C525 driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo type: USB
    rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 bus-ID: 5-2.4:7
    chip-ID: 046d:0826 class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter>
  Device-4: Focusrite-Novation Scarlett 2i4 driver: snd-usb-audio type: USB
    rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 bus-ID: 5-4.3:9
    chip-ID: 1235:800a class-ID: fe01
  API: ALSA v: k6.3.11-1-MANJARO status: kernel-api with: aoss
    type: oss-emulator tools: alsactl,alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: sndiod v: N/A status: off tools: aucat,midicat,sndioctl
  Server-2: PipeWire v: 0.3.72 status: n/a (root, process) with:
    1: pipewire-pulse status: active 2: wireplumber status: active
    3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Intel I211 Gigabit Network vendor: Gigabyte driver: igb v: kernel
    pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: f000 bus-ID: 05:00.0
    chip-ID: 8086:1539 class-ID: 0200
  IF: enp5s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
  IP v4: <filter> type: dynamic noprefixroute scope: global
    broadcast: <filter>
  IP v6: <filter> type: noprefixroute scope: link
  WAN IP: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Cambridge Silicon Radio Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode) driver: btusb
    v: 0.8 type: USB rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 bus-ID: 1-3.4.4:9
    chip-ID: 0a12:0001 class-ID: e001
  Report: rfkill ID: hci0 rfk-id: 0 state: down bt-service: enabled,running
    rfk-block: hardware: no software: yes address: see --recommends
Logical:
  Message: No logical block device data found.
RAID:
  Message: No RAID data found.
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 16.71 TiB used: 4.58 TiB (27.4%)
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Sabrent
    model: SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-2TB size: 1.82 TiB block-size: physical: 512 B
    logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 tech: SSD serial: <filter>
    fw-rev: RKT4B5.1 temp: 36.9 C scheme: MBR
  SMART: yes health: PASSED on: 60 hrs cycles: 32
    read-units: 21,496,522 [11.0 TB] written-units: 10,428,066 [5.33 TB]
  ID-2: /dev/nvme1n1 maj-min: 259:1 vendor: Sabrent model: N/A size: 1.86 TiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4
    tech: SSD serial: <filter> fw-rev: RKT303.3 temp: 27.9 C scheme: MBR
  SMART: yes health: PASSED on: 1y 258d 7h cycles: 2,516
    read-units: 143,897,144 [73.6 TB] written-units: 78,262,162 [40.0 TB]
  ID-3: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 870 QVO 2TB
    family: based SSDs size: 1.82 TiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B
    sata: 3.3 speed: 6.0 Gb/s tech: SSD serial: <filter> fw-rev: 2B6Q
    temp: 28 C scheme: MBR
  SMART: yes state: enabled health: PASSED on: 109d 0h cycles: 748
    written: 6.62 TiB
  ID-4: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: Western Digital
    model: WD60EZAZ-00SF3B0 family: Blue (SMR) size: 5.46 TiB block-size:
    physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B sata: 3.1 speed: 6.0 Gb/s tech: HDD
    rpm: 5400 serial: <filter> fw-rev: 0A80 temp: 30 C scheme: GPT
  SMART: yes state: enabled health: PASSED on: 1y 265d 12h cycles: 2536
  ID-5: /dev/sdc maj-min: 8:32 vendor: Western Digital
    model: WD60EZAZ-00SF3B0 family: Blue (SMR) size: 5.46 TiB block-size:
    physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B sata: 3.1 speed: 6.0 Gb/s tech: HDD
    rpm: 5400 serial: <filter> fw-rev: 0A80 temp: 29 C scheme: GPT
  SMART: yes state: enabled health: PASSED on: 1y 268d 23h cycles: 2532
  ID-6: /dev/sdd maj-min: 8:48 vendor: SanDisk model: USB 3.2Gen1
    size: 232.88 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: USB
    rev: 3.2 spd: 5 Gb/s lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-1x1 tech: N/A serial: <filter>
    fw-rev: 1.00 scheme: MBR
  SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure?
  ID-7: /dev/sde maj-min: 8:64 vendor: Toshiba model: USB Flash Memory
    size: 3.78 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: USB rev: 2.0
    spd: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 tech: SSD serial: <filter> fw-rev: PMAP
    scheme: MBR
  SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure?
  ID-8: /dev/sdg maj-min: 8:96 vendor: Generic model: Flash Disk
    size: 58.59 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: USB rev: 3.2
    spd: 5 Gb/s lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-1x1 tech: SSD serial: <filter>
    fw-rev: 8.01 scheme: MBR
  SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure?
  Message: No optical or floppy data found.
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 1.81 TiB size: 1.81 TiB (100.00%) used: 671.59 GiB (36.2%)
    fs: btrfs block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1 maj-min: 259:2
    label: MANJARO uuid: 5d4ba93c-6239-4b42-b587-c9cbc08d78cc
  ID-2: /home raw-size: 1.81 TiB size: 1.81 TiB (100.00%)
    used: 671.59 GiB (36.2%) fs: btrfs block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1
    maj-min: 259:2 label: MANJARO uuid: 5d4ba93c-6239-4b42-b587-c9cbc08d78cc
  ID-3: /run/media/thedatabug/DOCUMENTS raw-size: 5.46 TiB
    size: 5.46 TiB (100.00%) used: 2.1 TiB (38.5%) fs: ntfs block-size: 4096 B
    dev: /dev/sdc1 maj-min: 8:33 label: DOCUMENTS uuid: 01D69E68678D01D0
  ID-4: /run/media/thedatabug/ENTERTAINMENT raw-size: 5.46 TiB
    size: 5.46 TiB (100.00%) used: 1.82 TiB (33.4%) fs: ntfs block-size: 4096 B
    dev: /dev/sdb1 maj-min: 8:17 label: ENTERTAINMENT uuid: 01D69E856214FD30
  ID-5: /var/cache raw-size: 1.81 TiB size: 1.81 TiB (100.00%)
    used: 671.59 GiB (36.2%) fs: btrfs block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1
    maj-min: 259:2 label: MANJARO uuid: 5d4ba93c-6239-4b42-b587-c9cbc08d78cc
  ID-6: /var/log raw-size: 1.81 TiB size: 1.81 TiB (100.00%)
    used: 671.59 GiB (36.2%) fs: btrfs block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1
    maj-min: 259:2 label: MANJARO uuid: 5d4ba93c-6239-4b42-b587-c9cbc08d78cc
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 60 (default) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 8.8 GiB used: 6.5 MiB (0.1%)
    priority: -2 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2 maj-min: 259:3 label: N/A
    uuid: b6f424ae-1978-4547-87be-dfabe587f19d
Unmounted:
  ID-1: /dev/nvme1n1p1 maj-min: 259:4 size: 1.83 TiB fs: btrfs label: N/A
    uuid: 9bb93585-f4e5-4cc7-82da-bbd5d82bc88f
  ID-2: /dev/nvme1n1p2 maj-min: 259:5 size: 34.41 GiB fs: swap label: swap
    uuid: 594ee3cc-5213-4a22-b9a2-f4fcf82fa213
  ID-3: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1 size: 1.82 TiB fs: ext4 label: GAMES
    uuid: 540a54c6-f85c-4888-ba19-b884f0f92ad4
  ID-4: /dev/sdd1 maj-min: 8:49 size: 232.87 GiB fs: vfat label: APP STICK
    uuid: 1D57-6408
  ID-5: /dev/sde1 maj-min: 8:65 size: 3.78 GiB fs: vfat label: TRANSFER
    uuid: ACAF-5D36
  ID-6: /dev/sdg1 maj-min: 8:97 size: 58.56 GiB fs: exfat label: Ventoy
    uuid: 8676-3B3D
  ID-7: /dev/sdg2 maj-min: 8:98 size: 32 MiB fs: vfat label: VTOYEFI
    uuid: 7CDB-00D9
USB:
  Hub-1: 1-0:1 info: hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 6 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-2: 1-3:2 info: Genesys Logic Hub ports: 4 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 power: 100mA
    chip-ID: 05e3:0608 class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 1-3.1:4 info: Razer USA Naga Trinity type: mouse,keyboard
    driver: razermouse,usbhid interfaces: 3 rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s (1.4 MiB/s)
    lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 power: 500mA chip-ID: 1532:0067 class-ID: 0300
    serial: <filter>
  Device-2: 1-3.2:6 info: Microdia Backlit Gaming Keyboard
    type: keyboard,mouse driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 2 rev: 2.0
    speed: 12 Mb/s (1.4 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 power: 400mA
    chip-ID: 0c45:652f class-ID: 0301
  Device-3: 1-3.3:7 info: HP Photosmart 6520 series
    type: printer,mass storage driver: usb-storage,usblp interfaces: 4 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 power: 2mA
    chip-ID: 03f0:af11 class-ID: 0806 serial: <filter>
  Hub-3: 1-3.4:8 info: VIA Labs VL812 Hub ports: 4 rev: 2.1
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 2109:2812
    class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 1-3.4.4:9 info: Cambridge Silicon Radio Bluetooth Dongle (HCI
    mode) type: bluetooth driver: btusb interfaces: 2 rev: 2.0
    speed: 12 Mb/s (1.4 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 power: 100mA
    chip-ID: 0a12:0001 class-ID: e001
  Device-2: 1-4:3 info: Integrated Express IT8297 RGB LED Controller
    type: keyboard driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0
    speed: 12 Mb/s (1.4 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 power: 100mA
    chip-ID: 048d:8297 class-ID: 0301
  Device-3: 1-5:5 info: Google Nexus/Pixel Device (MTP) type: still imaging
    driver: N/A interfaces: 1 rev: 2.1 speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1
    mode: 2.0 power: 500mA chip-ID: 18d1:4ee1 class-ID: 0601 serial: <filter>
  Hub-4: 2-0:1 info: super-speed hub ports: 4 rev: 3.1
    speed: 10 Gb/s (1.16 GiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-2x1 chip-ID: 1d6b:0003
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-5: 3-0:1 info: hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 6 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-6: 3-6:6 info: Genesys Logic Hub ports: 4 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 power: 100mA
    chip-ID: 05e3:0608 class-ID: 0900
  Hub-7: 4-0:1 info: super-speed hub ports: 4 rev: 3.1
    speed: 10 Gb/s (1.16 GiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-2x1 chip-ID: 1d6b:0003
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-8: 5-0:1 info: hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 4 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-9: 5-2:2 info: Genesys Logic Hub ports: 4 rev: 2.1
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 power: 100mA
    chip-ID: 05e3:0610 class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 5-2.3:4 info: SHARKOON GmbH 2.4GHz Wireless rechargeable
    vertical mouse [More&Better] type: mouse driver: hid-generic,usbhid
    interfaces: 1 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s (1.4 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 1.1
    power: 100mA chip-ID: 1ea7:0064 class-ID: 0301
  Device-2: 5-2.4:7 info: Logitech HD Webcam C525 type: audio,video
    driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo interfaces: 4 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 power: 500mA
    chip-ID: 046d:0826 class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter>
  Hub-10: 5-3:3 info: Genesys Logic Hub ports: 4 rev: 2.1
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 power: 100mA
    chip-ID: 05e3:0610 class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 5-3.1:6 info: Toshiba Kingston DataTraveler 102/2.0 / HEMA Flash
    Drive 2 GB PNY Attache 4GB Stick type: mass storage driver: usb-storage
    interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0
    power: 200mA chip-ID: 0930:6545 class-ID: 0806 serial: <filter>
  Hub-11: 5-4:5 info: Genesys Logic Hub ports: 4 rev: 2.1
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 power: 100mA
    chip-ID: 05e3:0610 class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 5-4.2:8 info: Holtek USB Gaming Keyboard type: keyboard,HID
    driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 3 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s (1.4 MiB/s)
    lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 power: 100mA chip-ID: 04d9:a0f8 class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: 5-4.3:9 info: Focusrite-Novation Scarlett 2i4 type: audio
    driver: snd-usb-audio interfaces: 6 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s)
    lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 power: 500mA chip-ID: 1235:800a class-ID: fe01
  Hub-12: 6-0:1 info: super-speed hub ports: 4 rev: 3.1
    speed: 10 Gb/s (1.16 GiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-2x1 chip-ID: 1d6b:0003
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-13: 6-2:2 info: Genesys Logic Hub ports: 4 rev: 3.1
    speed: 5 Gb/s (596.0 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-1x1 chip-ID: 05e3:0626
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-14: 6-3:3 info: Genesys Logic Hub ports: 4 rev: 3.0
    speed: 5 Gb/s (596.0 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-1x1 chip-ID: 05e3:0612
    class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 6-3.3:5 info: SanDisk Ultra Flair type: mass storage
    driver: usb-storage interfaces: 1 rev: 3.2 speed: 5 Gb/s (596.0 MiB/s)
    lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-1x1 power: 896mA chip-ID: 0781:5591 class-ID: 0806
    serial: <filter>
  Device-2: 6-3.4:6 info: Alcor Micro Flash Drive type: mass storage
    driver: usb-storage interfaces: 1 rev: 3.2 speed: 5 Gb/s (596.0 MiB/s)
    lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-1x1 power: 800mA chip-ID: 058f:6387 class-ID: 0806
    serial: <filter>
  Hub-15: 6-4:4 info: Genesys Logic Hub ports: 4 rev: 3.0
    speed: 5 Gb/s (596.0 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-1x1 chip-ID: 05e3:0612
    class-ID: 0900
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 39.5 C mobo: 27.0 C gpu: amdgpu temp: 34.0 C
    mem: 38.0 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: amdgpu fan: 0
Info:
  Processes: 424 Uptime: 7m wakeups: 0 Init: systemd v: 253 default: graphical
  tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 13.1.1 clang: 15.0.7 Packages: 1607 pm: dpkg
  pkgs: 0 pm: pacman pkgs: 1562 libs: 429 tools: pamac,paru,yay pm: flatpak
  pkgs: 45 Shell: Zsh (sudo) v: 5.9 default: Bash v: 5.1.16 running-in: konsole
  inxi: 3.3.27

I havnt thoroughly read through the inxi but it does seem to only show 1 kernel. But Manajro Settings definately shows 2.

Unfortunately my Bootloader is still broken. I can get into Manajro but only via Garuda. But oddly enough since messing around trying to fix it I now get the Garuda boot loader on both the Manajro drive as well as the Garuda drive.

Bloomin annoying. I feel the quickest way to fix this would just be to wipe Manjaro and start again. But that seems so drastic when the system is working great.

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mhwd-kernel -li

Impossible to help without you providing info on how it looks NOW.
Witch boot partition is Garuda using?
Witch boot partition is Manjaro using?
Is it really problem if there is only one grub controlling both?

I would say the quickest way is to understand 100% what you are doing before doing stuff. (and I dont mean that in a condescending or aggressive way, I’m saying all of this is because you do stuff without knowing what will happen so you need to study documentation more)

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mhwd-kernel -li shows …

Currently running: 6.3.11-1-MANJARO (linux63)
The following kernels are installed in your system:
   * linux61
   * linux63

Using commands you gave me in previous thread here is the output

lsblk

NAME        MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINTS
sda           8:0    1   1.8T  0 disk 
└─sda1        8:1    1   1.8T  0 part 
sdb           8:16   1   5.5T  0 disk 
└─sdb1        8:17   1   5.5T  0 part /run/media/thedatabug/ENTERTAINMENT
sdc           8:32   1   5.5T  0 disk 
└─sdc1        8:33   1   5.5T  0 part /run/media/thedatabug/DOCUMENTS
sdd           8:48   1 232.9G  0 disk 
└─sdd1        8:49   1 232.9G  0 part 
sde           8:64   1   3.8G  0 disk 
└─sde1        8:65   1   3.8G  0 part 
sdf           8:80   1     0B  0 disk 
sdg           8:96   1  58.6G  0 disk 
├─sdg1        8:97   1  58.6G  0 part 
└─sdg2        8:98   1    32M  0 part 
nvme0n1     259:0    0   1.8T  0 disk 
├─nvme0n1p1 259:2    0   1.8T  0 part /var/log
│                                     /var/cache
│                                     /home
│                                     /
└─nvme0n1p2 259:3    0   8.8G  0 part [SWAP]
nvme1n1     259:1    0   1.9T  0 disk 
├─nvme1n1p1 259:4    0   1.8T  0 part /run/media/thedatabug/9bb93585-f4e5-4cc7-82da-bbd5d82bc88f
└─nvme1n1p2 259:5    0  34.4G  0 part

df-h

Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
dev              16G     0   16G   0% /dev
run              16G  2.2M   16G   1% /run
/dev/nvme0n1p1  1.9T  672G  1.2T  37% /
tmpfs            16G   70M   16G   1% /dev/shm
/dev/nvme0n1p1  1.9T  672G  1.2T  37% /home
/dev/nvme0n1p1  1.9T  672G  1.2T  37% /var/cache
/dev/nvme0n1p1  1.9T  672G  1.2T  37% /var/log
tmpfs            16G  9.2M   16G   1% /tmp
tmpfs           3.2G   13M  3.2G   1% /run/user/1000
/dev/sdc1       5.5T  2.2T  3.4T  39% /run/media/thedatabug/DOCUMENTS
/dev/sdb1       5.5T  1.9T  3.7T  34% /run/media/thedatabug/ENTERTAINMENT
/dev/nvme1n1p1  1.9T  326G  1.6T  18% /run/media/thedatabug/9bb93585-f4e5-4cc7-82da-bbd5d82bc88f

cat /etc/fstab

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a device; this may
# be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices that works even if
# disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
#
# <file system>             <mount point>  <type>  <options>  <dump>  <pass>
UUID=5d4ba93c-6239-4b42-b587-c9cbc08d78cc /              btrfs   subvol=/@,defaults,discard=async,ssd 0 0
UUID=5d4ba93c-6239-4b42-b587-c9cbc08d78cc /home          btrfs   subvol=/@home,defaults,discard=async,ssd 0 0
UUID=5d4ba93c-6239-4b42-b587-c9cbc08d78cc /var/cache     btrfs   subvol=/@cache,defaults,discard=async,ssd 0 0
UUID=5d4ba93c-6239-4b42-b587-c9cbc08d78cc /var/log       btrfs   subvol=/@log,defaults,discard=async,ssd 0 0
UUID=b6f424ae-1978-4547-87be-dfabe587f19d swap           swap    defaults,noatime 0 0
tmpfs                                     /tmp           tmpfs   defaults,noatime,mode=1777 0 0

Is it really problem if there is only one grub controlling both?

No but Id like it to be the Manajro one as Manajro is the main system and it hs access to the Manajro snapshots which the Garuda one only seems to have access to Garuda snapshots.

Also the Manjaro one looks nicer.

I would say the quickest way is to understand 100% what you are doing before doing stuff.

Well after attempting to do the whole slurp copy thing with the btrfs-add and btrfs remove method. I didn just install Manajro on one drive and install Garuda on the other drive opting to keep the bootloaders separate on each drive. Just as I had done with previous installs. Which worked exactly as expected in the past. Each OS was self bootable as well as being able to boot one from the other.

Now I noticed when I still had Windows as part of the system there was an EFI partition on the Manjaro drive which was not recreated when I reinstalled Manjaro using all the default settings (bar picking bootloader location). Same with Garuda it also didn’t create an EFI partition and in fact didn’t have an EFI partition before either.

Now I can’t guarantee that I didn’t make a mistake with my choices (likely) and picked the wrong drive for the bootloader which would explain how it got overwritten. BUT Im pretty sure I was running Manajro with a working bootloader AFTER I formatted the drive that would become the Garuda drive.

EDIT: I realized I didnt have the Garuda drive mounted when I ran those commands So I ran them again.

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This is all very complex, and on top you are using btrf witch confuses you even more (I think)

But a few notes I can give you:

  • Your boot partition is not mounted in manjaro (as seen in fstab), it’s not necessary but I also cant see what partition is what, your lsblk didn’t include the -f option that would bring me the filesystem info among others.
  • The information you provide in your text tells me you did not really know what you were doing when doing all these installs but rather rely on “guidance”, not good.
  • That manjaro detects the manjaro snapshots and garuda the garuda ones is totally natural. I’m guessing garuda is also installed in btrfs and the snapshots are made as subvols on the different btrfs systems.

I understand you have files and stuff you want to preserve. But since this is all very confusing for all parts, I would honestly recommend you back up your files (/home f ex) to another drive, just straight up copy them somewhere (not to an ntfs or fat32 drive though, that will screw with the credentials) and then remove everything and restart from scratch and use ext4 instead of btrfs.
Use the “manual partitioning” and set it up, you should understand what to do if you follow an installation guide for ext4 now that you played around so much with it.
Then learn that system and when you feel comfortable, move on to make a NEW install with btrfs, it’s not like you lack the harddisk space.

The reasoning for above is that for days, you don’t seem to get anywhere, and no matter what we do, it seems to be more time consuming than actually give you anything.
What you need is a proper simple installation that you can learn on instead of what you are doing now.
Choose ONE system, it seems to stand between garuda and Manjaro. Pick one and stick to it until you learn it, hate it or love it.

You need some confidence and understanding of your system. You need something that YOU have installed that is working 100%. Then you need to gain the confidence that “you control this system” and understand what to do to change things on the system.
YOU ARE IN CONTROL!
I simply can’t stress that enough.

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I agree that the easiest solution here for all parties is just a backup and reinstall. I have scripts that reinstall everything so its not like it will take all that long.

I do prefer btrfs tho as its saved me so many times when I screwed up the system. I am as familiar as Im ever gonna be with Manajro. Ive been running it for a full year as my main OS and for about 6 months on top of that as a secondary OS to Windows and I was using it mostly.

Garuda is a second favourite. It set up out of the box very similarily as Manajro but I hate the themeing. But

but yeh Ive made a backup of Home and will re-install.

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Than you probably have to “walk your own way” because if you don’t take advice, advice will not continue to be given.

Good luck!!! :hearts: