Gnome-next, testers needed

It’s a bug, I reported it upstream weeks ago.

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Recent updates are very nice. Surely can be used as an EDD. On wayland using a hidpi screen … Firefox still shows slightly fuzzy fonts compared to crisp system fonts.

Is there an about:config setting in Firefox that corrects this?

Thanks,
GM

Just set the environment variable MOZ_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1.

This should definately be the default settings for the next manjaro release. Don’t see any reason why not (anymore)!

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Good idea, I’ve been doing it on my own machine since October anyway, and there are no issues of note.

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So around three weeks later, I gave GNOME 40 a go. For beta software, it seems to be okay for the most part. I might do more intensive testings once we’ll be near the final release.

Although it is most likely far from being the main focus, integration of QT applications inside Manjaro GNOME will be something to check out and be polished. Here’s an example with qBittorrent. It doesn’t look very good to be honest.

By the way, nice work on zsh, although for me, it will more esthetical than anything else for most people. Someone in the team had too much fun with zsh? :upside_down_face:

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A bit offtopic but, but not complety as gnome is pioneer at bringing wayland and fractional scaling to us.

There is an issue in Firefox under wayland with fractional scaling for example set to 125% for me:

When klicking on the blue star symbol in the menu bar to edit a already set bookmark, the window is not drawn completely to the bottom. Don’t have time at the moment to check whether a bug report at mozilla already exists…

I confess, I have been ricing manjaro-zsh-config for years :blush:

It seems our qt theming is not applying at all on the test iso. Needs fixing.

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@Chrysostomus Some findings about manjaro-gnome-next-20.2-unstable-210228 -linux510.iso tested on laptop HP 8530p from live-USB without installing to laptop :

Great job done. :slightly_smiling_face: Tried with 5 simultaneous aps and switching between them goes very smoothly.

Only thing which I found was absence of ‘Shutdown’ (or ‘Close’) by mouse of selected apps in the dock/panel. This ‘Shutdown’ possibility is available now for almost all selected apps in the dock/panel by right-clicking the app and selecting ‘Shutdown’.

The 3/1 build is still pretty buggy in my live USB run.

A few areas …

Very small mouse pointer
Mouse pointer is a white square box on the desktop only
Gnome extensions error when trying to view details of user theme
Gnome Tweaks doesn’t open - Gnome Tweaks from AUR stalls during the installation process in pamac
Printing

GM

In case anybody cares, the iso.sha256 for next-minimal is referring to the zip file, not the raw iso (the one on github). Don’t know if that’s intentional or not.

Hi! I’m a new user so please excuse me if I appear to be somekind off-topic, I don’t know if this is the right place. But based on the coments I think you expect some hype from newbies like me, so I put my grain of sald about these two questions, based on my experiences with GNOME and the arrival of the next version (which looks very great):

  • How do you like the new gnome-shell?
    I really like how it looks and feels based on these images! I would also say the default GNOME theme is very good and clean. I really hope most of the extensions will still be compatible and that transition will be easiest as posible. I mostly use Modern layout: dash to dock, Unite, user themes, and pacman updates indicator (with removable drive menu, clipboard manager, compiz alike magic lamp effect and compiz alike window effect installed or activated manually). Before any update, I don’t know if possible an indicator could alert if an extension would be better either disabled or deleted. Also, if (and only if) Dash to Dock would not get in, I’ll still be fine if a Hot corner on the dash would come out at the botton screen, i’ve heard some pland from the devs but I really haven’t tested anything yet since i’m not very experienced.

  • What suggestions you have for Manjaro gnome edition?

  1. I came here from Ubuntu during the last Release (somewhere between november or december) and I would say that I started with the left foot. First of all, I didn’t know what Swap was, and the installer set No swap enabled by default, and it other forums and Telegram groups I’ve seen a lot of people having issues with frozen systems as well as me. I don’t know if there will be changes to the installer, but I really suggest a brief legend to tell you what to choose in the partitioning part (use Swap with hibernate if you have x RAM or X memory, Swap with no hibernate with x conditions, and so on).
  2. On Ubuntu Budgie and mainly Mint, when you first install the system you see a First Steps window: update system and optimize main servers, enable firewall, create a backup with Timeshift, install applications, select a theme… etc. etc. You can’t get lost here! I really hope (and would be too excited) if something similar was implemented! I could live without the “Accent color” because you have the Themes for that, and I don’t think it’s a priority. But such a Welcome I would surely have made my first stay in Manjaro much more comfortable and comforting (since I think there was a bug on the ISOS where TRIM, TLP and so on were not activated or enabled by default, so having to activate them manually, being a new user, as well as updating the servers because the downloads are slow as hell and installing firewall (in KDE is not) was not a very pleasant experience).
  3. However, despite all this, I have stayed with Manjaro instead of going back to Ubuntu because everything is very fast, simple, the tools are wearable, installing apps is so easy that you don’t have to use terminal, it’s incredibly clean and you appreciate all the effort on the part of the developers. Only those little details, which I know can be insignificant but that are incredibly valuable to a new user like me, who was afraid of the instability and ease of the system at first. At GNOME, for the next release, I’ve seen other little details: in the updater, I wish I could tell you what’s being installed (X system updates, Y security updates, Z apps updates, etc.), because seeing 250 updates at a stroke is a bit scary. Like this, I love cleaning in the order of applications and selecting the chosen software, but I would really prefer the default applications like Videos or Gnome Photos (since the one that comes by default is not very touch-friendly that we say…) and also did not come with VLC or some video player. When I installed Photos and Videos from Pamac they didn’t appear (something that happened with other apps, but I couldn’t tell if it’s a bug or something). The order of the folders is not the best and for some reason there are applications without icons and others that look like system utilities but never open. Small details you’d expect to be polished in the next release.
  4. I also consider it vital that, if a welcome screen is implemented, it will allow you which Kernel to use, since in my case, it was up to a week that I realized that I was in kernel 5.9 EOL, that is that without receiving security updates alongside the problems (without using the graphical interface of Configurations of Manjaro because it didn’t work or was bugged and I had to use again terminal), I thought that the Kernel was changed when updating the system, and neither did any notification to change the Kernel. Again, it’s this kind of thing that makes a lot of users come back to Ubuntu and I’ve seriously thought about it, but I see so much potential (and because, despite everything, my experience has been great) that I recommend it. But perhaps these experiences vary according to the knowledge of the users and what environment they use, in my case by persisting today I can enjoy Manjaro GNOME, but I can not (although I would like) to dedicate so much time to my system, and Windows is not really an option, but I think this kind of thing should be implemented in GNOME 40 since they are priority.

Those have been my experiences and I give the most cordial thanks to the developers. His effort really is admirable. Excuse my English and the extension of this comment.

Please have a nice day.
Best regards!

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I basically agree with you that installing a distro should be as carefree as possible. As far as Manjaro is concerned you must take into account that it’s an arch-based rolling release system with frequent changes. A welcome screen with thorough instructions on how to set up your system would have to be updated more frequently, which means more workload.

Manjaro claims to be working out-of-the-box, which it does (usually), but alot of (important) things are still left to the user’s responsibility (e. g. ‘pacsave/pacnew’ config files), and there can only be a certain degree of ‘one-size-fits-all’. That’s all pretty much in the spirit of linux as I understand it and came to appreciate.

Most importantly: Manjaro is not perfect and never will be :grinning:
(Sorry for getting off-topic)

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why is 3/04 release on gnome v 3.38?

Gnome-next wasn’t built today (yet) is all.

ok thanks, did not realize there were separate builds.

Hi All. I just did an installation of Gnome Next on a testing machine and after the first update the graphical environment stopped loading. The error message is similar to the one I attached.

P.s.: I am reading this thread to see if this problem has already been reported.
:vulcan_salute:

I’m sorry that I waited a month and a half with an answer, but I couldn’t just upgrade it to the gnome-devel level …
Thisi is an error:

resolving dependencies…
looking for conflicting packages…
:: gnome-shell-dev and gnome-shell are in conflict. Remove gnome-shell? [y/N] y
:: gjs-dev and gjs are in conflict. Remove gjs? [y/N] y
:: gsettings-desktop-schemas-dev and gsettings-desktop-schemas are in conflict. Remove gsettings-desktop-schemas? [y/N] y
:: libgweather-dev and libgweather are in conflict. Remove libgweather? [y/N] y
:: mutter-dev and mutter are in conflict. Remove mutter? [y/N] y
:: jack2 and jack are in conflict. Remove jack? [y/N] y
:: gnome-desktop-dev and gnome-desktop are in conflict. Remove gnome-desktop? [y/N] y
error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
:: removing gnome-shell breaks dependency ‘gnome-shell>=3.34’ required by gnome-shell-extension-appindicator

How to resolve it and upgrade to Gnome 40 ?

TNX

Currently running the 4/6/21 … what a refreshing, pleasant experience of Gnome, GTK4 & Wayland. My install is running on a Thinkpad w/hidpi. Of course because it’s Gnome, I had to enable Wayland scaling, change the display to 150% and switch over to the FF Fedora build to improve clarity on the browser fonts.

The only issue that I’m seeing is w/FF … where the bookmark dropdown box is limited to only the top 50% of the browser window (can scroll up & down) rather than the full 100%.

The install process took less than 2 minutes and the boot-desktop-shutdown performance is noticably improved.

Cheers

You are confirming, what I described earlier concerning the bookmarks dropdown.

I am using the latest unstable updates and the early adaption of dash-to-dock for gnome 40.

Experienced one gnome-shell crash when trying to move a window to another workspace using the small ones (drag and drop) in the top of the overview.

And the “Close Window Button” in the overview, which appears on hovering the window, is not rendered correctly on any theme (Matcha and Adwaita).

EDIT: fixed width latest version of manjaro-gdm-theme from the unstable repository.

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Hi,

I installed the ‘gnome-next’ ISO of 25 april. No problem with the installation. I tried the following Gnome extensions for Gnome 40: BigSurStatusArea, block-caribou36, CoverflowAltTab, Dash to Dock (last version from github), Improvedosk, SensorPerception. No errors when they were installed but the ‘Improvedosk’ extension can’t display her own settings. I will test themes (Mojave and WhiteSur) that I found on gnome-look.org website. They were made for Gnome40 and gtk4.

Would it be possible to add the BigSurStatusArea extension with the others extensions availables in Gnome Manjaro ? That extension is great. Look here: Big Sur Status Area - GNOME Shell Extensions and here: Big Sur Status Area - GNOME Shell Extensions for informations. It looks like what is made in the last version of MacOSX (look here: macOS — Wikipédia). Note: the first link is the good.

Regards.