Freezes with 6.12.4 (seem random)

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Good day to all

For the lack of a better understanding, I am writing it here.

Shortly before 2024 ended (I think on 28th of December), I installed kernel 6.12 via the manjaro settings. Was using 6.6.x so far.
Didn’t use my PC until 1st of January too many and long enough - however, I now have freezes in the middle of using the PC (while gaming or watching a movie or browsing the internet), there seems no real trigger around. It happens around 45 minutes into using the computer (give or take) and seems not to be related to gaming (thought about overheating GPU or something, but those temps are OK - same with CPU temps).
Funny enough - when the computer freezes, the sound still works (happened twice while watching a movie and I could hear the movie going on), the mouse worked, too (seeing it on the screen moving), but all other things were frozen and I wasn’t able to do anything anymore (until powered off).

Switched back to 6.6.x (which was still installed, of course) and have not yet encountered any freezes again.

Primary questions:
Am I the only one experiencing this?
If I am, what logs would be the most sensible to share and how would I achieve that (which command)?

Thanks a lot

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I suggest you switch to testing or unstable branch, both has newer versions of the linux 6.12 kernel

 $ mbn info linux612 -q | grep -e 'Branch' -e 'Version'
Branch         : unstable
Version        : 6.12.8-1
Branch         : testing
Version        : 6.12.6-1
Branch         : stable
Version        : 6.12.4-1

See → Switching Branches - Manjaro

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Is it clearly reproducible? If not - most likely hardware linked, could be firmware related.

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Is it clearly reproducible? If not - most likely hardware linked, could be firmware related.

No, not really - there is nothing I know I can do to actively trigger it. It just happens randomly. The 45 minutes were a guess, too. It doesn’t happen right after booting, it “takes a while”.

Surely it could be hardware linked in terms of new drivers in 6.12 or something like that. So far my checks of the hardware didn’t reveal any faults (and 6.6.65 is working without any issues so far).

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I suggest you switch to testing or unstable branch, both has newer versions of the linux 6.12 kernel

Thanks for your suggestion. As this is my “daily driver” I am reluctant to go to test or unstable branches. I am sure those versions (or even newer ones) of 6.12.x will hit stable branch at some point. This is were I am certainly trying it out again and see whether those freezes happen again.

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To answer this question:

I have reinstalled my device on 31st on my HP notebook with the latest ISO (after some distro testing) and kernel 6.12.4 is in use since then.

No issues so far.

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Fair point of view.

I would like to point out, what wee call unstable - is a buffered arch stable - and as such quite reliable. It is entry point for the Manjaro kernel builds and inhouse utilities and applications.

I have been doing Manjaro unstable since late 2016 - I have no complaints on stability.

Rarely there is the need for manual intervention but if you schedule your maintenance on a weekly base - putting aside time to deal with the manual - you will discover a whole new level of stability.

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Could we ask for a bit of system info please?

inxi -zv8

— should provide enough information.

This could, for example, be an issue with running out of RAM. Is swap configured? inxi will reveal this.

Running e.g.

watch -n30 free -h

… may be a good idea, in case it is indeed memory related. (Change timer as desired; it’s in seconds).