Dropping all legacy and older Nvidia drivers ?!?

Brazillions of dollars of course :joy:

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Only brazilions of Dollars lol

I’m sure you mean that loqs on the Arch forum found a way to make it work?

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1932449#p1932449

Please give credit where credit is due.

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I have some concerns with making this a regular rolling release, as this affects something quite fundamental in the system, and it’s an area where the source of problems seem to be getting more difficult to track down. Typically the problems are pretty intermittent.

Manjaro has been a great OS for my primary workstation, but ever since I upgraded to the 450 drivers I’ve been having various graphics issues, mostly with web content. The 450s improved compatibility with a few of the games I accessed through Steam… but no noticeable improvements for my productive applications (Blender, Krita, GIMP, CloudCompare, Meshlab, etc). If anything, I’ve been noticing issues with WebGL, and some non-3D web features. I do not know for sure, but perhaps this is all related to the transition from OpenGL to Vulkan?

That being said, I realise that Manjaro prides itself on being the “latest and greatest”.

I’m far from an expert in this area, so if anyone has some thoughts on this… I’d love to hear it (transition to Vulkan and known issues).

I had to upgrade from 440 series to the 455 driver for my Steam games to keep playing…
See: [linux59] Steam games not working

We are currently in the process to drop some Nvidia drivers accross all kernel series. This will simplify the way MHWD will detect your hardware. Also we can’t say on how long we will support 390xx driver series.

That’s bad news as cards like GTX 560 wouldn’t even be supported. I hope the AUR will take care of that situation properly at least.

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Oh, wow, that’s removing all of the different driver series?

[Removed Packages]
mhwd-nvidia-340xx-340.108-1-any.pkg.tar.xz
mhwd-nvidia-418xx-418.113-1-any.pkg.tar.xz
mhwd-nvidia-430xx-430.64-1.0-any.pkg.tar.zst
mhwd-nvidia-440xx-440.100-1-any.pkg.tar.zst
mhwd-nvidia-450xx-450.80.02-1-any.pkg.tar.zst
mhwd-nvidia-455xx-455.45.01-1-any.pkg.tar.zst

Looks like this is lining up for a single nvidia driver so no more long-term driver support, which makes Manjaro unusable on older systems (where nouveau support is poor).

“Marty! We need to go… back to the future!”

:joy:

It will be fine with unstable at least…

Wassup, scolded already by the EndeavourOS devs and came back to troll again? Seems you can’t let go of your hobby lecturing people what to do and creating problems. Good luck (to others) in your next Arch-based distro forum, who knows… Arcolinux or something.

“What did we do to you to react like this?” “If you don’t like it, move on.”

Nouveau is no option because it does not work well with a lot of prime hardwareconfigurations. That’s the simple truth. Nouveau might work on some hardware and will not work on other hardware. It’s wishful thinking to believe Nouveau can replace nvidia-drivers.

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I think some explanation is in place, on which drivers will be supported then, because reading that link makes one think you are removing ALL nVidia drivers at moment and not just “some”…

  • v455 is currently latest which is in that list…
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The menu needs to be updated to show the installed drivers.

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Looking at that list and branch compare makes me believe that the plan here is to have the 390xx legacy driver as linuxZZ-nvidia-390xx and the latest one as linuxZZ-nvidia. And only those two drivers.

The missing part of switching the drivers to the new ones is here:

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If 390xx driver will be not supported by one of the newer kernels, we most likely will also drop that legacy driver. You can always the lifetime of legacy support by Nvidia

Hello all, just a question

Will you keep the nVidia 340.xx drivers for the LTS kernel versions, say up to 5.40 or at least till
Xorg goes to 1.21 or drops support for it ???
That would be nice.

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Just installed Manjaro, coming from Ubuntu, because I wanted a cleaner and faster system. And I loved it! It is just like I expected. But then I discovered that my laptop GPU (GT 740M) is no longer supported by the last kernels, since it’s only compatible with an older (legacy) proprietary driver. The Nouveau driver is simply bad.

I don’t want to use Ubuntu, but I also don’t want to use Windows 10. I would like to use Manjaro, but Nvidia destroyed that. I don’t know what to do. Sadly, I wasn’t a GNU/Linux user when I bought this thing. I don’t want to buy anything from Nvidia anymore, but now it’s too late…

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Isn’t you card supported by the 390 driver? AFAIK the 390 bumblebee driver is still available and should work with the 5.4 lts kernel

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Try out the latest drivers imo it should work for 740M, Nvidia 455 supports GT640M LE so GT740M should be supported.

Thanks for the tip! I’ve downgraded to 5.4. And yes, it is. The 390 is the only one I’m able to install and use (I think 418 should also be compatible, but I never got it working correctly). However, I think it’s sad to use a rolling release system with an ageing kernel. :confused:

It seems like Canonical is somewhat trying to solve this issue before it happens on Ubuntu. I don’t have any idea how. But maybe I’ll go back to Ubuntu (or Kubuntu) on this machine and keep Manjaro only on my desktop.

The GT 740M is not compatible with 455. Even the GT 640M LE has better support. Yep, Nvidia sucks.