Does "Upgrade the system at shutdown" also upgrade flatpaks?

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Basically the title, when “upgrade the system at shutdown” is enabled in pamac-manager, does it also upgrade flatpak packages, or only things from official Manjaro repos and AUR?

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In theory, but i would very strongly advise against upgrading everything at once and at shutdown. Because you cannot react before reboot if something does not go according to plan.
Pamac is a nice attempt to make the system beginner friendy, but unfortunately still not very mature and stable. So don’t push your luck.

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Pamac maintainer has recently made updating repository packages and AUR into a 2-step process: Rebuilding AUR packages is postponed until after repository packages are updated, and user is requested to confirm rebuild of AUR packages. I suspect that an offline update of repositories and AUR would likely stall at this point and system would not shutdown.

Worst case scenario for offline updates is the system fails to boot

  1. Does system have a way to restore installed OS (backups/timeshift/snapshots)?

  2. Do you have a Live ISO to use manjaro-chroot to fix non-booting system or re-install OS?

  3. Do you know how to get troubleshooting data to fix non-booting system?

If a user cannot answer yes to these 3 questions they should not enable this option in Pamac GUI

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At shutdown pamac only does repo upgrades but not AUR so probably not flatpacks either

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We should have news updates with regards any changes in pamac (manager/GUI as well as CLI).

I noticed some improvements in the GUI search recently that I had remained completely unaware of possibly for months.

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Offline updates in Pamac GUI and changes for password request in Pamac CLI were published on Manjaro website

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Would have been nice it has been published to the forum too. That is what announcements are for. As an average Joe i do not visit the site after downloading the iso anymore.

P.s. oh wait, the “news” article is 2,5 years old. So Nik and Ben are talking about different things. And by the way, “automatic updates” and “offline updates” are not synonyms in my head.

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Maybe there could be a checkbox to allow/disallow updating flatpaks at shutdown? Flatpaks are not system level utilities/applications, so they generally safe to update. I have yet to see one that would be harmful to update silently in the background or offline.

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