@KrazyLurt You are welcome, at least, i know i am not alone with this issue.
Anyway, it does not solve our problem. Well, dbus solved it, but i am wondering what are the differences with dbus and dbus-x11 and if it would be a good idea to replace the default dbus-x11 by dbus…as in the past (one year more or less), dbus what replaced by dbus-x11.
good morning to all of you, I follow you attentively:
This also happens on my desktop xfce and cinnamon(not a problem therefore the desktop used) both with manjaro, however this does not happen in linux mint nor in EndeavourOS, both in a system as in the other where it does not occur, there are no “.xinitrc”, also I have been able to verify that in EndeavourOS, not even had the custom action thunar root, I had to create and once created worked perfectly, there was no delay when opening the desktop as root.
So in my opinion maybe there is some problem in the “.xinitrc” programming.
Greetings to all and say to the manjaro team that this is not even annoying for me, it has no importance, I just write this in case it is useful.
Happy Holidays to all
dbus-x11 looks like a Manjaro mod. Arch and most probably, Endeavour use the Arch dbus. If you compare the PKGBUILD They are pretty similar except Manjaro’s dbus-x11 uses the following flag:
Please re-read my initial topic, i dealt with the post you pointed already.
Months ago, there was issues with dbus and manjaro changed with dbus-x11, which was fine with custom actions especially with pkexec.
Now, on my current system as well as with a fresh installation on another machine, some of us (including me) have issues and we had to revert to dbus for custom action with pkexec, which is in my opinion the best for root custom actions with Thunar as it opens another Thunar instance with a thick orange band at the top for safety.
So, we are happy to know we do not have any issue, but i created this thread to try to sort my issue out and not for having people saying : “Hey, by the way, i do not have any issue, so the issue does not exist”…yet, it does, period.
good morning and merry christmas to all
in my opinion you are absolutely right, as I said starting from a shutdown pc(only 1 time as you described) it is easy to check with the command $ >time pkexec thunar ,enter the password and wait for the thunar window to come up as root to close and see the time. as you described it takes 30 sec the first time then it acts normally.
You are also logically right that mint and endervourOs use dbus(dbus-x11 is signed by philm). So as I said for me it’s not even an annoying problem but I can see that you are right and that’s it. I won’t write anything more about it and will keep reading you, happy day ChrisCanyon.
Just to add some additional info: I was able to bypass the 20 sec startup for Thunar Root using dbus-x11 by installing xdg-suAUR
However, long-term the solution would likely be using the normal dbus package if there are no issues using it. dbus-x11 was provided as a workaround for functionality that was lacking in dbus at the time.
good morning philm and happy holidays, I have to say that after the update this morning (9:51 Spanish time) thunar root works as expected from the beginning, ie responds in my case at the time of entering password, I ignore what would have been the change made, dbus-x11 is still installed on my system, I hope not to cause discomfort with the comment, it is only to report, thank you very much for everything.
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Nombre : dbus-x11
Versión : 1.12.20-1
Descripción : Freedesktop.org message bus system
URL : https://wiki.freedesktop.org/www/Software/dbus/
Licencias : GPL custom
Repositorio : core
Tamaño de la Instalación : 955,4 kB
Depende de : systemd-libs expat audit libsystemd.so=0-64
libaudit.so=1-64
Hacer dependencias : systemd xmlto docbook-xsl python yelp-tools doxygen
git autoconf-archive xorg-server
Requerido por : at-spi2-core avahi bluez chromium colord cups
dbus-glib dbus-python dnsmasq flatpak fluidsynth
ghostscript jack2 lib32-dbus libpcap libproxy
libpulse libteam light-locker manjaro-hotfixes
pipewire rtkit steam-manjaro systemd thunderbird
weylus-bin wpa_supplicant xdg-dbus-proxy
xorg-server zbar
Opcional para : alsa-plugins
Provee : libdbus libdbus-1.so=3-64 dbus=1.12.20
Entra en conflicto con : libdbus dbus
Empaquetador : Philip Mueller <philm@manjaro.org>
Fecha de creación : 08/07/20
Fecha de instalación : 03/01/21
Motivo de instalación : Explícitamente instalado
Firmas : Sí
This is what happened something like 1 year ago, dbus-x11 worked as it should, then, about 3 months ago, there was this issue with Thunar root.
I imagine it happened after an update at this time. I did not yet updated my system with the latest stable update, but it’s not impossible that it works again with dbus-x11 now