We simply should avoid casual chit-chat FB attitude here and focus on stuff which matters and help newcomers to get used to Manjaro and Linux. With the new forum we start also a new vibe and so far it is a success.
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Iām lost without the humor thread, tbh. 
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I agree. It feels like this new forum just donāt have a soul. 
This matters a lot (at least to me). For example in those āshow your desktopā threads I found a lot of inspiration for my desktop.
And because one user who regularly posted amazing desktop of his i3wm (but didnāt share any .config file) I decided to switch to it too (and read the documentation and do some work on the customisation and actually care - a little bit of a personal growth if I may say so).
Itās not just copy this code because something broke down (what a good boy, have a cookie 
).
With this casual chit-chat it realy feel there are people behind Manjaro project.
If Manjaro forum is turned to a helpdesk only then it would feel too much as a corporate machinery and I have alredy enough of that each day.
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If thatās the attitude moving forward, I would suggest we all reply to every single newbieās post with a simple and concise RTFM.
Clinical enough?
Personally I wonāt be recommending Manjaro to the people I try to convert to Linux in future, because new users donāt just want a dry āhelp deskā service.
Certainly for me it was the sense of community that kept me with Manjaro for as long as it did, and definitely why I visited the forums nearly every day.
Why bother with forumās at all? Just have a wiki and a chat bot. Job done.
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Could you be a bit more detailed on what you mean with that new vibe?
From what T-level do we get access?
What I donāt like about this feature is that when you loose TL3 status you lose the rights over your own posts in these sections, right?
Trust Level 3 ā Regular
Regulars are the backbone of your community, the most active readers and reliable contributors over a period of months, even years.To get to trust level 3, in the last 100 daysā¦
Waitā¦ so we canāt see the āGeneral Discussionā until 100 days later?
Sounds like this new forum will be an extremely boring forum. And community building is no longer a thing the Manjaro Team cares about.
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Love manjaro the distro but unfortunately I am starting to get bad vibes from the team. I thought manjaro was a team that listened to its users? Yes everyone can make mistakes but most users seem to want it to feel more like a community than just a wiki with q&a. We had the controversy with free office, then Jonathan leaving and the issues surrounding that, then we have the issue of losing all the fileās from a forum and making everyone create new accounts. Think the team really need to remember that users are important
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Yes and when you get there, you will find out there are already people talking in those spaces. Because some of the the TL3ās from the old forum get bumped to TL3 immediately (the admins can do that).
Iām personally not sure if that is a good decision, but it is the way it is.
That seems extremely unfair to people.
For both new and old users.
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Iām not really sure what to thinkā¦ I love the Manjaro distro, but the forum slogan used to be
Come for the OS, stay for the community.
But community is not just āshoot my wifi card isnāt working. Letās all try to fix itā community is āNew to the forum? Introduce yourselfā or āHow im feeling expressed in a desktop themeā or āwhy would Linux want meā or āwhat music i listen to while stuck at homeā
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Yes, maybe a new sloganā¦
Come for the OS, or go to Endeavour to find the community and a good Lounge forum.
You know, like Share your Desktop or āPlasma is Greatā (which gave me some great info and tips for my desktop) - Joke of the Day.
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Well based on @philm response, I am beginning to seriously question whether the old forums crashed or were deliberately removed to roll out these new āimprovedā pre-censored forums. Regardless I spent many years coming here daily, to read and answer questions. This will be my third Manjaro forum and I seriously doubt I will be helping to rebuild it. In case anyone has not noticed, most of the technically savvy users have picked up stakes and moved to a new camping site. I simply advise those who donāt particularly enjoy bashing their heads against brick walls to do the same. In other words if you cared about Manjaro I recommend you stop doing so, because the team no longer cares about the community. Actions speak louder than words, and there have been a whole lot of both lately. Unfortunately what is being said, and what has been done is simply not hashing anymore.
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Didnāt think Iād ever be saying this about Manjaro, but this shows how (to copy a phrase used in our last national electionā¦) out of touch the Manjaro team are with the community if this what is thought. Because āstuff which mattersā - in whose opinion? A new vibeā¦ yeah, like we really need the latest fadā¦ and success? Judging from the responses here, and in another thread talking about the offtopic forumā¦ that doesnāt seem to be the case. People supporting people as normal, ok, thatās a success. Whoopie do. That was going to happen anyway. Setting the bar high, I see.
And whose lunatic idea was it to have general discussion at TL3, which only unlocks after 100 days (thatās over three months, you know!), as long as you visited across 50% of the days, and is also the trust level that can be lost? Iām not saying it should be TL1 - these are still newbies, but it should be TL2, when people are considered to be āMembersā.
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Agree 100% how on earth can the team say The new vibe has been a success? When there are so many threads and posts complaining missing features of the new site? Dread to think how bad things would have to be before they admitted it wasnāt a success
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It is quite simple. We talked within our team what we take over what we avoid to take over ever. Just that simple. Deal with it or go fishing. There is plenty fish in the see ā¦
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Thats exactly the attitude thatās lost so many userās to endeavour. It really is a shame as your distro is nice but you are not making people feel welcome. Iāll take your advice then and join the exodus
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I guess I am going fishing. Good luck.
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If by that you mean without the useless content, then the entire team is responsible for bringing it to this point.
I was present for 2 years, started as a newbie (since most seem to like that term), and it happens that i also did my best. I see no reasons to not help the community from this point forward, unless i might invent whatever personal vendeta ā¦
Hopefully the ground will not get burned up for such massive movement and friction.
Why not give a full responsible advise? I advise all to stop making scenarios that are unrelated with reality, and if you say stop caring about Manjaro, then you never did, so ā¦ have a pleasant journey wherever you feel like home.
You didnāt asked me yet about what the team cares about. As i said, i was present in the forum for only two years, so slowly i became part of the community, now iām part of the team. Why? Because they care about community and the members in it.
You didnāt specify what actions exactly, so this generalization has no value whatsoever, unless you know more than any team member all together.
Community opinion and Manjaro team.
Do you consider that the actual team has to go, so the rest of community is happy, or do you think the team has to make a decision on what information we handle and how, on whoās time and disposition?
The forum is a couple of days old. Nobody was born a grown up, took some time to get there. Have you lost your patience already?
Exactly how Life is a Two-way Street, same is attitude. You brought it here and accused us of having it when we plainly made a statement upfront, in the open, with our plans and the rational behind it regarding the forum and everything related to Manjaro. Why do you have the impression that i canāt also question your attitude here? Are we using different leverage?
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