Can't use kernal 5.10 after update...currently using kernal 5.4.85-1...should I use another kernal or stick?

  Kernel: 5.4.85-1-MANJARO x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.0 
  parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.4-x86_64 
  root=UUID=946d67f7-e2d1-44f8-96b2-4bf678b3bde9 rw quiet apparmor=1 
  security=apparmor udev.log_priority=3 
  Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.20.4 tk: Qt 5.15.2 wm: kwin_x11 dm: SDDM 
  Distro: Manjaro Linux 
  Type: Desktop System: Gigabyte product: H110M-S2H v: N/A serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: Gigabyte model: H110M-S2H-CF v: x.x serial: <filter> 
  UEFI: American Megatrends v: F22 date: 06/12/2017 
  Info: Quad Core model: Intel Core i7-7700 bits: 64 type: MT MCP 
  arch: Kaby Lake family: 6 model-id: 9E (158) stepping: 9 microcode: DE 
  L2 cache: 8 MiB 
  flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx 
  bogomips: 57616 
  Speed: 800 MHz min/max: 800/4200 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 800 2: 800 3: 800 
  4: 801 5: 800 6: 800 7: 800 8: 800 
  Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: Split huge pages 
  Type: l1tf 
  mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable 
  Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable 
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
  Type: spec_store_bypass 
  mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
  Type: spectre_v1 
  mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, IBPB: conditional, 
  IBRS_FW, STIBP: conditional, RSB filling 
  Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode 
  Type: tsx_async_abort mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable 
  Device-1: NVIDIA GP104 [GeForce GTX 1070] vendor: ZOTAC driver: nvidia 
  v: 455.45.01 alternate: nouveau,nvidia_drm bus ID: 01:00.0 
  chip ID: 10de:1b81 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.10 compositor: kwin_x11 driver: nvidia 
  display ID: :0 screens: 1 
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 2560x1440 s-dpi: 108 s-size: 602x342mm (23.7x13.5") 
  s-diag: 692mm (27.3") 
  Monitor-1: DP-2 res: 2560x1440 dpi: 109 size: 598x336mm (23.5x13.2") 
  diag: 686mm (27") 
  OpenGL: renderer: GeForce GTX 1070/PCIe/SSE2 v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 455.45.01 
  direct render: Yes 
  Device-1: Intel 100 Series/C230 Series Family HD Audio vendor: Gigabyte 
  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1f.3 chip ID: 8086:a170 
  Device-2: NVIDIA GP104 High Definition Audio vendor: ZOTAC 
  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 01:00.1 chip ID: 10de:10f0 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.4.85-1-MANJARO 
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet 
  vendor: Gigabyte driver: r8169 v: kernel port: d000 bus ID: 02:00.0 
  chip ID: 10ec:8168 
  IF: enp2s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
  Local Storage: total: 931.51 GiB used: 775.86 GiB (83.3%) 
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. 
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Seagate model: ST1000DX002-2DV162 
  size: 931.51 GiB block size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s 
  serial: <filter> rev: CC41 
  ID-1: / raw size: 931.22 GiB size: 915.6 GiB (98.32%) 
  used: 775.86 GiB (84.7%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2 
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw size: 300 MiB size: 299.4 MiB (99.80%) 
  used: 312 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1 
  Kernel: swappiness: 60 (default) cache pressure: 100 (default) 
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 8 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 
  file: /swapfile 
  System Temperatures: cpu: 29.8 C mobo: 27.8 C gpu: nvidia temp: 49 C 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: nvidia fan: 0% 
  Processes: 241 Uptime: 3m wakeups: 0 Memory: 15.6 GiB used: 2.05 GiB (13.1%) 
  Init: systemd v: 247 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.0 Packages: 1424 pacman: 1416 
  lib: 428 flatpak: 0 snap: 8 Shell: Bash v: 5.1.0 running in: yakuake 
  inxi: 3.2.01

I switched to video-nvidia after uninstalling video-nvidia-390xx

when I switch into kernal 5.10 my KDE desktop will not boot so I’m being forced to use kernal 5.4.85-1 after update. Can I get 5.10 to work or perhaps I Should switch to 5.9.16-1?

When kernel 5.4 is working for you keep it. No need to change your kernel. Kernel 5.4 ist still supported as LTS-version and get’s all required security updates and fixes needed. 5.10 is still a pretty new kernel, wait some weeks and check again, but there is really no need to run another kernel than 5.4 if this is working for you.

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Thanks for your reply, but what about when playing Windows games using steam proton and Lutris, is it not better to use the latest kernal when ever possible?

No. Use the kernel without issues is what is recommended. Newer kernels sometimes adapt better with newer hardware, so come back if you have issues, but don’t make things more complicated as they are.

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Keeping yourself updated on newer kernel line makes sense when you are using Radeon, as AMD cards support is in kernel itself, and in mesa packages. I bought Radeon 5700 XT and I had to update my kernel to have my card fully supported with newest mesa. I changed distro and landed in Manjaro that was easiest way to tackle this.
OP mentioned that he uses Nvidia, in his case kernel is not that important as everything is in Nvidia proprietary driver. However, 5.10 is a new LTS and it brings a tonne of improvements. I’d certainly aim to upgrade sooner or later. See if you can resolve your problem, try LiveCD with 5.10 and so on. I am on 5.10 and it’s running perfectly fine.

thanks for your input. When you say try LiveCD with 5.10 are you saying use Manjaro on a bootable USB stick with 5.10 to see if it works with my hardware? but why do this if I can’t get 5.10 to work?