CAN'T UPDATE: Conflict between nvidia-450xx-utils and nvidia-440xx-utils

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#1

I’m trying to update my system and I get the following message (translated, my OS isn’t in English):

Using the GUI:
Dependencies conflict: Conflict between nvidia-450xx-utils and nvidia-440xx-utils

Using Terminal and running sudo pacman -Syyu:

  1. Replace xapps for community/xapp - Yes -> nvidia-450xx-utils and nvidia-440xx-utils are in conflict. Remove nvidia-440xx-utils? - Yes -> Error. Conflict between packages.
  2. Replace xapps for community/xapp? - No -> same error

No matter what options I choose I always get errors and I can’t update my system.

I’m new to Linux, any advise?

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#2

You’re missing the proper error message to troubleshoot your issue. Most likely you have a metapackage installed that you need to remove before going further, as the metapackage is here to force your install specific version.
Copy proper error message, full error message, not a cut down translated one.

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#3

This is what I get (it’s in Czech):

:: Spouští se aktualizace systému…
:: Nahradit xapps za community/xapp? [A/n]
řeší se závislosti…
kontrola konfliktních balíčků…
:: nvidia-450xx-utils a nvidia-440xx-utils jsou v konfliktu (nvidia-libgl). Odstranit nvidia-440xx-utils? [a/N]
chyba: zjištěn konflikt nerozlišitelných balíčků
chyba: selhala příprava transakce (konfliktní závislosti)
:: nvidia-450xx-utils a nvidia-440xx-utils jsou v konfliktu

#4

See here

#5

Doesn’t work. I get this error after executing the first command:

chyba: chyba inicializace knihovny alpm
(nelze nalézt nebo číst adresář: pci/var/lib/pacman/)

error: error initializing library alpm
(can’t find or read pci/var/lib/pacman/)

#6

Make sure you use -R and not -r in the first command.

Also, what is this

???

#7

Well I was able to run the first command:
sudo pacman -R linux-latest-nvidia-440xx that seems to have removed the package.

But after running sudo mhwd -r pci video-nvidia-440xx I get this error:
chyba: selhala příprava transakce (nelze vyřešit závislosti)
:: odstranění nvidia-440xx-utils poruší závislost ‘nvidia-utils’ vyžadovanou balíčkem cuda
Error: pacman failed!
Error: script failed!

Removing nvidia-440xx-utils is interrupting the dependency ‘nvidia-utils’ which is required by the package cuda (translated).

#8

You have to remove cuda … then install the driver, then reinstall cuda :slight_smile:

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#9

I just resolved this conflict by following your steps. Should I clean the older nvidia packages and what would be a safe way to do it?

$ pacman -Qs nvidia
local/cuda 11.0.3-1
    NVIDIA's GPU programming toolkit
local/lib32-libvdpau 1.4-1
    Nvidia VDPAU library
local/lib32-nvidia-450xx-utils 450.66-1
    NVIDIA drivers utilities (32-bit)
local/libvdpau 1.4-1
    Nvidia VDPAU library
local/linux54-nvidia-450xx 450.66-6 (linux54-extramodules)
    NVIDIA drivers for linux.
local/mhwd-nvidia-340xx 340.108-1
    MHWD module-ids for nvidia 340.108
local/mhwd-nvidia-390xx 390.132-1
    MHWD module-ids for nvidia 390.132
local/mhwd-nvidia-418xx 418.113-1
    MHWD module-ids for nvidia-418xx 418.113
local/mhwd-nvidia-430xx 430.64-1.0
    MHWD module-ids for nvidia-430xx 430.64
local/mhwd-nvidia-435xx 435.21-1.0
    MHWD module-ids for nvidia 435.21
local/mhwd-nvidia-440xx 440.100-1
    MHWD module-ids for nvidia 440.100
local/mhwd-nvidia-450xx 450.66-1
    MHWD module-ids for nvidia 450.66
local/nvidia-450xx-utils 450.66-1
    NVIDIA drivers utilities
local/opencl-nvidia-440xx 440.100-1
    OpenCL implemention for NVIDIA
local/xf86-video-nouveau 1.0.16-2 (xorg-drivers)
    Open Source 3D acceleration driver for nVidia cards
#10

DO NOT REMOVE THESE!

These are important dependency in the system, required by MHWD, even if you currently do not have anything Nvidia in the machine.

#11

From the above list I guess only opencl-nvidia-440xx is safe to remove?

#12

I have a similar problem, although I know how to fix it (and I have) I wonder if there is an easier (automatic) solution. The problem is that I have a machine learning library installed that requires a couple of things that all require nvidia. Now, I would like to have an AUTOMATIC way of uninstalling all dependencies on nvidia, installing the new version of the nvidia driver, and reinstalling all previously uninstalled things.

Does such a thing exist? I know that I can do -Rc for cascading uninstall… but why isn’t there a way to do the other steps (updating and reinstalling) as well during update.

#13

UPDATE - FIXED!
I removed the cuda package and everything updated normally!

HOWEVER - If I want to reinstall cuda the issue with the different nvidia-utils remains. So the issue is solved for updating the system, but in order to reinstall the cuda package you have to remove linux57-nvidia-440xx, lib32-nvidia-440xx-utils and nvidia-440x-utils.

No idea if it’s save to remove those or not.

#14

I did the following and at the moment I don’t have any of those packages you’ve mentioned (don’t just copy-paste this blindly, you must check your kernel version first, I use linux54):

$ sudo pacman -R cuda
$ sudo pacman -R linux54-nvidia-440xx
$ sudo mhwd -r pci video-nvidia-440xx
$ sudo mhwd -i pci video-nvidia-450xx
$ sudo pacman -S cuda

The only thing that still bothers me since it’s still not updated to 450 is opencl-nvidia-440xx.

This is also a useful link on how to fine tune your nvidia settings.

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#15

hi,

just got a similar issue, but i could not proceed v450 installation because of prime funtionnality, with this error:
gwen@gl553vd-manjaro ~]$ sudo mhwd -i pci video-nvidia-450xx

Installing video-nvidia-450xx…
Sourcing /etc/mhwd-x86_64.conf
Has lib32 support: true
Sourcing /var/lib/mhwd/db/pci/graphic_drivers/nvidia-450xx/MHWDCONFIG
Processing classid: 0300
Sourcing /var/lib/mhwd/scripts/include/0300
Processing classid: 0302
vérification des dépendances…
erreur : la préparation de la transaction a échoué (la satisfaction des dépendances a échoué)
:: la suppression de linux57-nvidia-440xx casse la dépendance « linux57-nvidia-440xx » requise par linux-latest-nvidia-440xx
:: la suppression de nvidia-440xx-utils casse la dépendance « nvidia-utils » requise par nvidia-prime
Error: pacman failed!
Error: script failed!

but it succeeded with upgrade after remove cuda and then i could not reinstall it
[gwen@gl553vd-manjaro ~]$ sudo pacman -S cuda
résolution des dépendances…
recherche des conflits entre paquets…
:: nvidia-450xx-utils et nvidia-440xx-utils sont en conflit (nvidia-libgl). Supprimer nvidia-440xx-utils ? [o/N] o
erreur : la préparation de la transaction a échoué (la satisfaction des dépendances a échoué)
:: la suppression de nvidia-440xx-utils casse la dépendance « nvidia-440xx-utils » requise par lib32-nvidia-440xx-utils
:: la suppression de nvidia-440xx-utils casse la dépendance « nvidia-440xx-utils=440.100 » requise par linux57-nvidia-440xx

i also saw an information message when upgrading:
(172/227) mise à jour de linux57 [######################] 100%

NOTE, 5.7.19 was the last maintenance release by Greg Kroah-Hartman.
This kernel series is now marked EOL (end of life).

It is recommend to move on to linux58 series.
Use followed cmd to do that: 'sudo mhwd-kernel -i linux58'
#16

Try removing linux-latest-nvidia-440xx right after removing cuda.

But be careful, I’ve seen lots of issues with linux58 vs. nvidia-450xx.

#17

i think i have some files of 440xx and 450xx, but linux 5.8 is now installed, my problem comes from nvidia prime on rog laptop:

  • 440xx cannot be removed
  • 450xx cannot be installed

[gwen@gl553vd-manjaro ~]$ sudo pacman -S cuda
[sudo] Mot de passe de gwen :
résolution des dépendances…
recherche des conflits entre paquets…
:: nvidia-450xx-utils et nvidia-440xx-utils sont en conflit (nvidia-libgl). Supprimer nvidia-440xx-utils ? [o/N] o
erreur : la préparation de la transaction a échoué (la satisfaction des dépendances a échoué)
:: la suppression de nvidia-440xx-utils casse la dépendance « nvidia-440xx-utils » requise par lib32-nvidia-440xx-utils
:: la suppression de nvidia-440xx-utils casse la dépendance « nvidia-440xx-utils=440.100 » requise par linux57-nvidia-440xx
:: la suppression de nvidia-440xx-utils casse la dépendance « nvidia-440xx-utils=440.100 » requise par linux58-nvidia-440xx
[gwen@gl553vd-manjaro ~]$ sudo mhwd -i pci video-nvidia-450xx
[sudo] Mot de passe de gwen :

Installing video-nvidia-450xx…
Sourcing /etc/mhwd-x86_64.conf
Has lib32 support: true
Sourcing /var/lib/mhwd/db/pci/graphic_drivers/nvidia-450xx/MHWDCONFIG
Processing classid: 0300
Sourcing /var/lib/mhwd/scripts/include/0300
Processing classid: 0302
vérification des dépendances…
erreur : la préparation de la transaction a échoué (la satisfaction des dépendances a échoué)
:: la suppression de nvidia-440xx-utils casse la dépendance « nvidia-utils » requise par nvidia-prime
Error: pacman failed!
Error: script failed!

i 'll wait for reinstall cuda, i will try reinstall cuda when next upgrade is coming

#18

Is it common to experience major update issues like this in Manjaro? I am new to the distribution, and thought that it was more stable. Last week I lost sound in my desktop, and now I can’t update because of a NVIDIA driver. :confused:

Appreciate if you can advise on a simple solution for users who don’t want to risk breaking their system with manual removal of packages.

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#19

hmm this makes me wonder if 450xx would work for me if I removed cuda. I’ll debate whether or not to try that this weekend.

#20

hi, since i use manjaro (installed 05 february 2020), this is the 1st time i meet issue with nvidia prime driver, and i hope this issue is solved when i proceed to next upgrade