Cannot install Manjaro KDE with the 5.xx kernels on old hardware with NVIDIA

I have an old HP Pavilion dv9000 laptop and at the moment Manjaro KDE is running awesome.
But i had a very hard time to install KDE Plasma. XFCE is the only flavor that can be installed without issues. This is in fact a general Linux 5.xx problem for many distros.
Hardware info:

  Host: Hdv9500 Kernel: 4.19.208-1-MANJARO x86_64 bits: 64
  Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.22.5 Distro: Manjaro Linux
  Type: Laptop System: Hewlett-Packard
  product: HP Pavilion dv9500 Notebook PC v: Rev 1
  serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Quanta model: 30CB v: 79.2E serial: <superuser required>
  BIOS: Hewlett-Packard v: F.5A date: 03/22/2010
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 50.7 Wh (100.0%) condition: 50.7/65.1 Wh (77.8%)
  Info: Dual Core model: Intel Core2 Duo T5250 bits: 64 type: MCP cache:
  L2: 2 MiB
  Speed: 1496 MHz min/max: 1000/1500 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1496 2: 1496
  Device-1: NVIDIA G86M [GeForce 8400M GS] driver: nouveau v: kernel
  Device-2: Chicony Gateway USB 2.0 Webcam type: USB driver: uvcvideo
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.13 driver: loaded: modesetting
  resolution: 1440x900~60Hz
  OpenGL: renderer: NV86 v: 3.3 Mesa 21.2.3
  Device-1: Intel 82801H HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
  Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k4.19.208-1-MANJARO running: yes
  Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 15.0 running: yes
  Sound Server-3: PipeWire v: 0.3.38 running: yes
  Device-1: Intel PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network
  driver: iwl4965
  IF: wlp2s0 state: down mac: 46:d9:6e:0a:9d:a4
  Device-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
  driver: r8169
  IF: enp8s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: 00:1b:24:a0:25:49
  Local Storage: total: 817.88 GiB used: 18.58 GiB (2.3%)
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Samsung model: SSD 840 PRO Series size: 119.24 GiB
  ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Toshiba model: MQ01ABD075 size: 698.64 GiB
  ID-1: / size: 28.67 GiB used: 15.19 GiB (53.0%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda4
  ID-2: /home size: 291.98 GiB used: 3.39 GiB (1.2%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb2
  Alert: No swap data was found.
  System Temperatures: cpu: 51.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nouveau temp: 59.0 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
  Processes: 176 Uptime: 23m Memory: 2.93 GiB used: 1.95 GiB (66.5%)
  Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.08

Even with XFCE it is absolutely necessary to go back to kernel 4.19. Otherwise LibreOffice and Firefox will crash or freeze instantly the whole system.
I could boot the KDE live system only when setting some options:


After installing Manjaro KDE successfully.
At boot i had to press E and edit the kernel line, adding ¨3¨ to the end of that line, since the KDE environment simply did not start and freezes every time in the Plasma splash screen.
After booting the into a command prompt and login i was able to update the system.

sudo pacman -Syu

Then i had to change to the older kernel 4.19.

sudo mhwd-kernel -i linux 4.19

After reboot. Advanced choice and selecting the 4.19 kernel, i removed the 5.13 kernel, using Manjaro Settings manager.

KDE Plasma is now running, but still there was an issue with Firefox.
I had to start Firefox in the safe mode, from a terminal command prompt.

firefox --safe-mode

Then remove the hardware acceleration in the general settings, Performance of Firefox.
In the end i do not use Firefox anymore, but use Opera now.

LibreOffice is running okay so far.

I have seen a question like this before, but ask this again:
Would it be possible to supply a Manjaro flavor (of Gnome and KDE) with the older kernel 4.19, or at least with a possibility to select the older kernel, before booting the live system and during installation?

manjaro-chroot into your new installation and just install that kernel before booting into your new installation?

Thanks! So that should happen when the live system is still running. I guess it would also be necessary to update the new installation first, before trying to install another kernel, because with the Manjaro Settings Manager another kernel can only be added after all updates have been applied first to the new installation. Would that all be possible using manjaro-chroot?


Thanks again.

Final situation:
Manjaro KDE is now running absolutely fast and smooth. It looks awesome with the Se7en Aero theme and Tiled menu. I now use Opera instead of the troublesome Firefox. Everything is working as it should. I think Manjaro Linux with kernel version 4.19 is the only nice solution on my old desktop to be up to date for some years. Windows 10 is also still usable, so i made a dual boot system with Windows 10 and Manajaro Linux.

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