Btrfs slow read/write speed on nvme

[tuxer]

Hello,

i recently bought a Tuxedo Pulse 15 Gen1, with AMD Ryzen™ 7 4800H with Radeon™ Graphics × 16 and 1TB Samsung SSD 980 pro nvme. I installed Manjaro Gnome Stable from ISO, because I would like to use btrfs as my filesystem and the preinstalled system uses ext4.

The laptop supports PCIe 3.0, the nvme even PCIe 4.0, so i would expect PCIe 3.0 speeds. But what I get are read rates under 700MB and write rates about 1.5GB

So I installed a second Manjaro Gnome from the same USB-drive next to the main system with ext4 filesystem and I get mutch higher rates. Read speed about 3.3GB and write speed about 3GB (screenshot2).

I tested both systems with kdiskmark 2.3.0 (appimage). Both systems are up to date. It doesn’t matter if tuxedo-control-center with kernel-headers is installed or not.

Is there a solution to increase the speed of btrfs?

Please let me know if you need any further information.

Best regards

[Zesko]

@tuxer

Is there a solution to increase the speed of btrfs?

Btrfs is CoW (Copy on write) filesystem that has more features than Ext4, that is why CoW is regularly slower than Non-CoW

[tuxer]

But is it realy that much? I mean 645MB compared to 3.3GB … Realy? Can btrfs under no circumstances read more than 645MB per second even on new hardware?

[Zesko]

kdiskmark using fio benchmark isn’t in a real world scenario.

I checked cat for reading a large game data 7z 30 GB in two different partitions (Ext4 and Btrfs) in the same Nvme SSD.

Open bash shell in terminal:

Btrfs

$ time cat Game.7z  > /dev/null

real	0m18,430s
user	0m0,045s
sys	0m10,223s

18 sec reading is done

Ext4

$ time cat Game.7z  > /dev/null

real	0m28,873s
user	0m0,053s
sys	0m12,955s

28 sec reading is done

However I don’t understand why.

[tuxer]

So in your case btrfs is eaven faster than ext4?

Unfortunately I don’t have a 30GB file, so i tried the Manjaro.iso, witch is only 3.5GB

Btrfs:

ext4:

[Zesko]

@tuxer

Unfortunately I don’t have a 30GB file,

You can compress many different directories together in one new file.tar

@tuxer

So in your case btrfs is eaven faster than ext4?

Yes, Btrfs is faster than ext4 on my two different devices when reading the game data 7z.

But I do not notice the difference when using boot time and loading game. (I am using Linux Kernel 5.18)

[Zesko]

In my other device:

Btrfs and ext4 in the same nvme SSD without LUKS

Btrfs

$ time cat Game.7z > /dev/null 

real    0m10,877s
user    0m0,042s
sys     0m8,518s

Ext4

$ time cat Game.7z > /dev/null 

real    0m13,300s
user    0m0,029s
sys     0m7,446s

[tuxer]

@Zesko

You can compress many different directories together in one new file.tar

So easy Now I feel stupid because I didn’t think of it right away
However, i compressed my biggest folder into a 40.7GB .zip file. Zip because for some reason it went faster than tar.

$ tar -czvf 1.zip ~/Downloads

Well it’s not related to the topic, but is there a possibility to use all 16 cores? Nautilus uses only one core for compressing and the command above also.

Anyway, this is btrfs:

$ time cat 1.zip  > /dev/null
cat 1.zip > /dev/null  0,04s user 23,44s system 94% cpu 24,794 total

And this is ext4:

$ time cat 1.zip > /dev/null
cat 1.zip > /dev/null  0,05s user 14,95s system 98% cpu 15,190 total

So I’m not shure if I get this right, which place indicates the actual duration?

Thank’s vor helping so far!

[megavolt]

@tuxer

Can you show how it is mounted?

mount -t btrfs
mount -t ext4
cat /etc/fstab

Edit: The scheduler can be also a culprit:

grep "" /sys/block/*/queue/scheduler

[megavolt]

@tuxer

Well it’s not related to the topic, but is there a possibility to use all 16 cores?

pamac install pigz

tar --use-compress-program="pigz -k -9" -cf 1.tar.gz ~/Downloads

gzip uses by default only one core, pigz is fully compatible, but uses all possible cores.

[tuxer]

@megavolt

Can you show how it is mounted?

Shure, here is the btrfs installation:

$ mount -t btrfs
/dev/nvme0n1p7 on / type btrfs (rw,relatime,ssd,discard=async,space_cache=v2,subvolid=256,subvol=/@)
/dev/nvme0n1p7 on /home type btrfs (rw,relatime,ssd,discard=async,space_cache=v2,subvolid=257,subvol=/@home)
/dev/nvme0n1p7 on /var/cache type btrfs (rw,relatime,ssd,discard=async,space_cache=v2,subvolid=258,subvol=/@cache)
/dev/nvme0n1p7 on /var/log type btrfs (rw,relatime,ssd,discard=async,space_cache=v2,subvolid=259,subvol=/@log)

$ cat /etc/fstab
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a device; this may
# be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices that works even if
# disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
#
# <file system>             <mount point>  <type>  <options>  <dump>  <pass>
UUID=68BD-1D13                            /boot/efi      vfat    umask=0077 0 2
UUID=af6ff93b-3809-4e38-9acd-9031213e0a5b /              btrfs   subvol=/@,defaults,discard=async,ssd 0 0
UUID=af6ff93b-3809-4e38-9acd-9031213e0a5b /home          btrfs   subvol=/@home,defaults,discard=async,ssd 0 0
UUID=af6ff93b-3809-4e38-9acd-9031213e0a5b /var/cache     btrfs   subvol=/@cache,defaults,discard=async,ssd 0 0
UUID=af6ff93b-3809-4e38-9acd-9031213e0a5b /var/log       btrfs   subvol=/@log,defaults,discard=async,ssd 0 0
UUID=4371b365-d8bf-430a-ade2-d4fab1a203ac swap           swap    defaults,noatime 0 0
tmpfs                                     /tmp           tmpfs   defaults,noatime,mode=1777 0 0

$ grep "" /sys/block/*/queue/scheduler
/sys/block/loop0/queue/scheduler:[none] mq-deadline kyber bfq 
/sys/block/loop1/queue/scheduler:[none] mq-deadline kyber bfq 
/sys/block/loop2/queue/scheduler:[none] mq-deadline kyber bfq 
/sys/block/loop3/queue/scheduler:[none] mq-deadline kyber bfq 
/sys/block/loop4/queue/scheduler:[none] mq-deadline kyber bfq 
/sys/block/loop5/queue/scheduler:[none] mq-deadline kyber bfq 
/sys/block/loop6/queue/scheduler:[none] mq-deadline kyber bfq 
/sys/block/loop7/queue/scheduler:[none] mq-deadline kyber bfq 
/sys/block/nvme0n1/queue/scheduler:[none] mq-deadline kyber bfq 

And this is ext4:

$ mount -t ext4
/dev/nvme0n1p4 on / type ext4 (rw,noatime)

$ cat /etc/fstab
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a device; this may
# be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices that works even if
# disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
#
# <file system>             <mount point>  <type>  <options>  <dump>  <pass>
UUID=68BD-1D13                            /boot/efi      vfat    umask=0077 0 2
UUID=37921521-2c1a-430c-800b-87d379e6326c /              ext4    defaults,noatime 0 1
UUID=4371b365-d8bf-430a-ade2-d4fab1a203ac swap           swap    defaults,noatime 0 0
tmpfs                                     /tmp           tmpfs   defaults,noatime,mode=1777 0 0

$ grep "" /sys/block/*/queue/scheduler
/sys/block/loop0/queue/scheduler:[none] mq-deadline kyber bfq 
/sys/block/loop1/queue/scheduler:[none] mq-deadline kyber bfq 
/sys/block/loop2/queue/scheduler:[none] mq-deadline kyber bfq 
/sys/block/loop3/queue/scheduler:[none] mq-deadline kyber bfq 
/sys/block/loop4/queue/scheduler:[none] mq-deadline kyber bfq 
/sys/block/loop5/queue/scheduler:[none] mq-deadline kyber bfq 
/sys/block/loop6/queue/scheduler:[none] mq-deadline kyber bfq 
/sys/block/loop7/queue/scheduler:[none] mq-deadline kyber bfq 
/sys/block/nvme0n1/queue/scheduler:[none] mq-deadline kyber bfq 

@megavolt

gzip uses by default only one core, pigz is fully compatible, but uses all possible cores.

Great thank you! Is it possible to make it the default in nautilus? Sometimes a right click on a file is easier for me than comandline

[megavolt]

@tuxer

UUID=af6ff93b-3809-4e38-9acd-9031213e0a5b / btrfs subvol=/@,defaults,discard=async,ssd 0 0

Add to fstab:

noatime,clear_cache,nospace_cache

and reboot.

space_cache=v2 can improve performance, but to be honest it wear out the SSD/NVME faster… At least on HDDs it is recommend in my opinion.

noatime improves latency. On modern systems atime is not needed, especially on desktops.

@tuxer

Great thank you! Is it possible to make it the default in nautilus? Sometimes a right click on a file is easier for me than comandline

No idea. Maybe ask upstream: Issues · GNOME / Files · GitLab but in fact this menu is hardcoded.

[tuxer]

Just to be shure, you mean like this?

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a device; this may
# be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices that works even if
# disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
#
# <file system>             <mount point>  <type>  <options>  <dump>  <pass>
UUID=68BD-1D13                            /boot/efi      vfat    umask=0077 0 2
UUID=af6ff93b-3809-4e38-9acd-9031213e0a5b /              btrfs   subvol=/@,defaults,discard=async,ssd,noatime,clear_cache,nospace_cache 0 0
UUID=af6ff93b-3809-4e38-9acd-9031213e0a5b /home          btrfs   subvol=/@home,defaults,discard=async,ssd,noatime,clear_cache,nospace_cache 0 0
UUID=af6ff93b-3809-4e38-9acd-9031213e0a5b /var/cache     btrfs   subvol=/@cache,defaults,discard=async,ssd,noatime,clear_cache,nospace_cache 0 0
UUID=af6ff93b-3809-4e38-9acd-9031213e0a5b /var/log       btrfs   subvol=/@log,defaults,discard=async,ssd,noatime,clear_cache,nospace_cache 0 0
UUID=4371b365-d8bf-430a-ade2-d4fab1a203ac swap           swap    defaults,noatime 0 0
tmpfs                                     /tmp           tmpfs   defaults,noatime,mode=1777 0 0

[megavolt]

@tuxer

Just to be shure, you mean like this?

Everything is correct, BUT disabling fsck for btrfs is a bad idea, anyway it is your system.

0 0 → 0 1

[tuxer]

Great thank you!

Now i got this on btrfs:

time cat 1.zip  > /dev/null
cat 1.zip > /dev/null  0,03s user 17,28s system 89% cpu 19,325 total

[Zesko]

@megavolt

BUT disabling fsck for btrfs is a bad idea, anyway it is your system.

0 0 → 0 1

I am not sure if fsck is not for Btrfs in fstab, but it is for Ext4.

In Arch wiki:

If the root file system is btrfs or XFS, the fsck order should be set to 0 instead of 1

Check cat /usr/bin/fsck.btrfs

# fsck.btrfs is a type of utility that should exist for any filesystem and is
# called during system setup when the corresponding /etc/fstab entries contain
# non-zero value for fs_passno. (See fstab(5) for more.)
#
# Traditional filesystems need to run their respective fsck utility in case the
# filesystem was not unmounted cleanly and the log needs to be replayed before
# mount. This is not needed for BTRFS. You should set fs_passno to 0.
#
# If you wish to check the consistency of a BTRFS filesystem or repair a
# damaged filesystem, see btrfs(8) subcommand 'check'. By default the
# filesystem consistency is checked, the repair mode is enabled via --repair
# option (use with care!).

AUTO=false
while getopts ":aApy" c
do
 case $c in
 a|A|p|y)       AUTO=true;;
 esac
done
shift $(($OPTIND - 1))
eval DEV=\${$#}
if [ ! -e $DEV ]; then
 echo "$0: $DEV does not exist"
 exit 8
fi
if ! $AUTO; then
 echo "If you wish to check the consistency of a BTRFS filesystem or"
 echo "repair a damaged filesystem, see btrfs(8) subcommand 'check'."
fi
exit 0

[Zesko]

Copying benchmark in a real world using cp.

Let check: Copying the Game data 30 GB in the same filesystem
Ext4:

$ time cp Game.7z Game1.7z 

real    0m24,201s
user    0m0,001s
sys     0m21,379s

Btrfs:

$ time cp Game.7z Game1.7z

real    0m0,011s
user    0m0,001s
sys     0m0,003s

Btrfs: copying the data from subvolume to another subvolume: (Linux Kernel 5.17+ improved deduplication)

$ time sudo cp Game.7z /opt/Game1.7z

real    0m2,141s
user    0m0,038s
sys     0m0,016s

Btrfs takes no additional space, because of deduplication ability.

Writing benchmark is difficult to test Btrfs due to deduplication.

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Copy data from the Nvme SSD to Btrfs filesystem in other Nvme SSD. Both SSDs are similarly fast.

time sudo cp Game.7z /run/media/zesko/Backup/Game1.7z

real    0m19,409s
user    0m0,046s
sys     0m18,632s

[andreas85]

btrfs is slower than other filesystems.

• But it depends on the circumstances.
• btrfs has a lot of safety. This comes not without costs.

Enable compression for btrfs, and you may gain some (space and speed)

When you search for speed, btrfs may be not the best choice !

You can find good Information about Btrfs in the wiki

Btrfs

[tuxer]

@Zesko

In Arch wiki:

If the root file system is btrfs or XFS, the fsck order should be set to 0 instead of 1

Check cat /usr/bin/fsck.btrfs

So i should keep 0 0 on btrfs?
0 0 is default on btrfs — on ext4 it’s 0 1

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@Zesko

Copying benchmark in a real world using cp.

My test-installation with ext4 has only 70GB root partition, so I had to generate another test file (25.6GB)
(Thanks @megavolt, using pigz and all 16 cores it’s done in seconds)

ext4:

$ time cp Test.tar.gz Test1.tar.gz

cp -i Test.tar.gz Test1.tar.gz  0,00s user 27,48s system 99% cpu 27,760 total

Btrfs:
(unfortunately I have no seccont nvme build in)

$ time cp Test.tar.gz Test1.tar.gz

cp -i Test.tar.gz Test1.tar.gz  0,00s user 0,11s system 91% cpu 0,126 total

Btrfs: copying the data from subvolume to another subvolume:

$ time sudo cp Test.tar.gz /opt/Test1.tar.gz

[sudo] Passwort für user: 
sudo cp Test.tar.gz /opt/Test1.tar.gz  0,02s user 25,88s system 92% cpu 28,093 total

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@megavolt

Add to fstab:

noatime,clear_cache,nospace_cache

and reboot.

I made the changes, but could it gain some speed?

@andreas85

btrfs is slower than other filesystems.

So eaven if the changes to the fstab could gain some speed, i guess it is still slower. But how much slower is it and is this just the normal slowdown? And based on my read/write tests bevore and after, did the changes to the fstab do anything? Like I said, I don’t quite understand the output. Which digit shows the actual speed or duration?

But if this is normal in the end, I guess there’s nothing I can do… I just wanted to be shure
And thanks again for your help so far

[Zesko]

@tuxer

So i should keep 0 0 on btrfs?
0 0 is default on btrfs — on ext4 it’s 0 1

Yes

@tuxer

Btrfs: copying the data from subvolume to another subvolume:

Which Linux kernel do you use?
Did you run sudo btrfs balance start -v /?

@tuxer

I made the changes, but could it gain some speed?

My fstab

UUID=bd9ea09d-153e-4e0c--b3e6cbcbab86f0 / btrfs subvol=/@,defaults,noatime,compress=zstd 0 0

Try to change the compress=zstd to compress=zstd:1
No need clear_cache,nospace_cache, space_cache=v2 is already default.
You do not need discard=async in fstab, just use sudo systemctl enable --now fstrim.timer