I applied the latest update yesterday and now the boot hangs after the first check.
I have to hold the power key to shut it down. Before it shuts down, I see the following:
I am trying to transition away from Windows, but need a distro that doesn’t have these kind of issues.
What are my options to restore or fix it? Do I need to reinstall?
According to this topic it will be solved after you will add simple udev rule to disable USB autosuspend:
ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="usb", TEST=="power/control", ATTR{power/control}="on"
Hello @jdk and welcome to Manjaro
Install Manjaro on a seperated SSD, dont share one disk with Windows.
Because Windows will fight your Linux bootfiles. Windows is the A-hole and won’t tolerate Linux. But you can evade it…
So you can also install Manjaro on a external SSD, if you don’t have space for another internal SSD in your tower.
When you have a good running system, use Timeshift (Rsync) and create a system snapshot before you doing a update or trying to make system changed.
Always have a Manjaro Bootstick prepared, because you can only fix serriors boot error’s in the Live Boot Environment.
Refresh your mirror’s before you doing a update.
sudo pacman-mirrors --fasttrack
Maintain your system (pacnew files) and look in announcent Topic at the second post (wiki) from Philm.
You can also take a look at my Linux Guide:
Thank you for the recommendations
Thanks for the response. Where am I adding this rule?
/etc/udev/rules.d/
sudo nano /etc/udev/rules.d/
(you can substitute nano with your favorite text editor)
save file with .rules extension and reboot. eg. 20-my-rule.rules
Note: Rules are checked in sorted order (by filename) so the rule with the lower number will be read first.
See: man udev
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Udev
In that case: you will probably want a distro that is more beginner friendly. Manjaro may not be that distribution. I’d recommend having a look at [Consideration] Is Manjaro the right distribution for you? if you can.
For beginners to Linux, I’d recommend something Ubuntu derived. Ubuntu tends to be a lot more stable and have more of the hardware quirks worked out, whereas Manjaro (and anything Arch derived) requires a bit more maintenance.
Plz don’t recommend Ubuntu, its one of the worst distro’s.
Who wants to go away from Microsoft Windows only to join a Linux Distro (Ubuntu) with Op-Out Telemetry and had (in the past) Amazon affiliate deals integrated in the search function in the task bar… The clock is already ticking when i look at Ubuntu.
For me is Manjaro also beginner friendly (i started with Manjaro and it was and it is still a great experience), the beginner just need to learn to Maintain the system.
We have a lot GUI stuff that helps people… install GPU driver’s, switching Kernels, automount drives and creating system snapshots or install/delete packages all with the help of UI.
I call this beginner friendly!
Most people still recommend Mint or Kubuntu for beginner’s who don’t care about to learn something.
While at the same time, i heared (Rumors) that people just need to maintain more stuff every 6month under this Distro’s, so the work needs to be done too but with delay or not?
So instead doing little maintaince every 3 weeks with Manjaro
the other’s just delay it and this is more userfriendly?
At the end of the day, its also a question what packages the user wants and if he is looking for performance (gaming) or if he wants to upgrade his hardware soon… where Arch (Manjaro)
has its strength.
Which Desktop Environment is the Distro going to support,
there are a lot people who don’t want to use the ugly gnome desktop but prefer a fancy environment.
The OP specifically stated that they did not want to do this, and regardless of your opinions, Ubuntu LTS releases - and their derivatives, like Linux Mint and Pop!_OS - are pretty maintenance free, even when upgrading to a major new version. There is a reason that Ubuntu is a pretty solid recommendation for beginners to Linux.
There’s also straight Debian, or LMDE, for example, if you wish to avoid Canonical/Ubuntu.
In fact it’s why the Mint team have LMDE; to have a fall-back in case the Ubuntu base becomes untenable.
But, @jdk if you like Manjaro and are prepared to do some necessary maintenance from time to time, there is nothing wrong with sticking with it.
Where did he wrote this? I can’t see this info…
For Mint and a few other Debian Distro’s yeah.
But the most people stopped to recommend Ubuntu.
That’s interesting, but im still skeptical since i heared other rumor’s around this Topic.
@BG405 I read today that you used Mint in the past on a old Backup PC. Im not sure how strong your experience is around Mint.
But can you confirm that this Debian Distro’s are really maintenance free?
I used Mint for several years as my daily driver, but don’t have much recent experience. The machine in question is being used as a stand-in for my mate’s machine, which actually runs Manjaro KDE.
No distro is maintenance-free, but Debian base probably has about the least frequency of such tasks being needed.
As these issues happened after an update and therefore Manjaro’s “you need to maintain the OS” is implicated (either that or Manjaro just not having the best handling of hardware quirks), I think it’s a reasonable inference that @jdk has stated he does not want to learn how to maintain Manjaro (or fix issues arising due to hardware quirks). Which is reasonable - not everyone has the time to do this.
And whether you like it or not, Ubuntu is still a common recommendation for beginners. I get that you don’t like it, but there are still a lot of recommendations to use Ubuntu, especially for newcomers to Linux. Ubuntu does pretty well in both stability and hardware enablement, and the telemetry is very transparent, so it’s a decent choice. It’s not perfect - I moved from Ubuntu to Manjaro because I needed a more recent kernel for some hardware issues - but it’s pretty good.