Why Linux is faster and "snappier" and much more stable than windows 10 latest?

Hoo boy

In my experience linux is far superior to windows in many respects.
If you are having instability than maybe manjaro is not for you as there are distros out there that are ultra stable (the ever reliable linux mint for one)
I mean i will give you that Manjaro can be finicky but it is a rolling release after all.
Hey I have had issues with manjaro too but I dont use manjaro as my measuring stick on how great linux can be.
No that would be debian pure or Linux Mint :smiley:

(also not saying Mint is better than Manjaro, but it is more stable in my experience but Manjaro is rolling so i dont expect it to be stable for that long)

Also i find windows 10 to be rather ugly.

@c00ter, actually, MS used to have Windows NT, which was the “business/server” OS, that they developed alongside Win95/98/Millennium. Then they blended their “normal” desktop OS with their server OS. Which they called Windows XP (with a variety of flavors), which was a vast improvement on any OS that they had made previously (certainly not without plenty of flaws, as those of us old enough know).

Since then they’ve bought out other specialised server systems which I can’t tell you about (though I know a quick search would give me the info’, - I’m not really interested enough to do it :wink: ), as I got out of the IT industry in 2005 (& personally headed straight for Linux :slight_smile: ).

I remember, that up to & including WinXP, whether working on one of the “standard” Windows releases or one of the NT’s, to set up a new network, you had to go through a dance that fell into the definition of insanity!

You had to do the same thing (the correct thing) more than once, until you got a successful result - you had to do the same thing over & over until you got a “different” result! lol

Once your network did work, then it thankfully, kept on working.

Once you had learned how “it” was, setting up a “new” Windows LAN, then doing it was nowhere near as stressful… :slight_smile:

Thank you for nice advice.
I used to Manjaro (about 5 years) and I like to be up to date with latesy packages and Manjaro doing really great job. Linux is really success comparing have MS or Apple have resources. I m not copmlaining I m happy with my OS setup :slight_smile:

From my experience, Windows 10 and Manjaro feel almost equally snappy if correctly set up with a fresh install.
In case of Windows, that means to reduce the amount of background services and tasks, i.e. disabling things like server, search, error reporting etc.

Of course that’s only true if you install Windows and the needed drivers manually, and getting rid of pre-installed Windows, which is more often than not full of bloatware especially on laptops.

I find win10 Enterpise the best option shame its not readily available to users only corporations with a vol licence. It does not do as much spying as normal win10 as you can turn it off, it also holds back feature update till the public has tested them and they are stable, What I find is after feature update it is a slug for a day or two then speeds up. It is never as fast as Arch I find even with indexing it is slow loading the file browser with data from my drives nautilus is instant on this and i have TBs of data that win take up to 1min to load

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I have 2 identical models I have full control over - one my own on manjaro, and one in a job running win10 (again - even the windows I’ve slimmed and streamlined).

Hands down on all measures the linux machine wins.

There may be specific hardware configurations or tasks in which windows can excell (such as certain gaming)… but I might consider them rare.

Anyone else can test for themselves.

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Simply because W10 has much more going on under the hood that just a consumer operating system.

Running your programs as snappy as possible is not Microsoft’s primary goal these days.

Big Data == Big Dollars.

It also doesn’t help that Windoze code base is bloated with old tech backward compatibility.

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You are right their are some hacked win10 isos, live isos,they are very light and barebones, all the bloat removed and very fast to use

I loved NT when it was still NT and had that black-lined logo. :wink: It was fun to run on our little office’s 10baseT network, but I never did use it as more than a fileserver. And I did forget that the re-worked NT that became (finally) XP was far better than their earlier pre-Web versions. :smiley:

Or a VPN & The Pirate Bay. :wink:

Except you never know what nasties have been hidden inside that stuff.

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Who gives a tinker’s dam–it’s Windows (but hide yer data).:wink:

Experienced users aren’t likely to get burnt, but there’s a lot of doofusses out there.

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I believe this is the best answer. While backwards compatibility is great, it adds a lot of overhead to an OS. On my laptop there is a noticeable difference between almost every distro I’ve run and Windows 10. Maybe on a higher end system the difference is less noticeable.

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Why Linux is faster and “snappier” and much more stable than windows 10 ?

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In my opinion, this can be recognized by the advanced version numbers of Ubuntu 18.10, Mint 19 and Manjarao 18.0. While Windows is only at number 10 :smiley:

:smiley: :joy::rofl:

To be fair, the current Windows 10 version is 1809… :slight_smile:

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THERE might be the problem…

'LLo,

For sure, launch services.msc is a necessary step to reduce the redmondian OS, tenth of the name (but systemctl list-unit-files here is also easier to use, pfuuu…!) :slight_smile:

In my opinion, any empirical comparisons tend to be inaccurate, or rather, maybe incomplete is the best word.

We may have some bias and wrongly believe something runs faster on Linux than on Windows. That being said, and having used both Linux and Windows for decades, I was impressed with Windows 10’s performance visually, until something changed. I was using Windows 10 and Manjaro/Arch Linux side by side at the end of 2017 and I couldn’t really decide on a clear winner. They looked both equally snappy and therefore I checked some benchmarks that confirmed my expectations back then.

Fast forward to early 2018, when the Meltdown/Spectre Vulnerabilities arose and then suddenly, after the initial mitigations, I started noticing some hiccups affecting only Windows 10. I’m talking about small delays that weren’t there before and which I could never link to the said vulnerabilities’ mitigations. Nevertheless, they started precisely by that time and Linux stayed as snappy as before.

By that time I went back to using Manjaro Linux as my sole desktop OS once again, ditching dual booting and I couldn’t be happier. These vulnerabilities affect mostly I/O heavy tasks and transitions between user and kernel mode. Further, one of the mitigations used by Linux, called retpolines, is reportedly more efficient and as far as I know, couldn’t be used by Windows, as it requires every user land application to be recompiled to support it fully, not just the kernel. This could be done trivially by any Linux distro, but you cannot expect every Windows binary out there to be easily recompiled right away.

TL;DR:

The Meltdown/Spectre fixes could have played a role, but there’s nothing like running benchmarks, like for instance this one:

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=win10-linux-core9&num=1

Regarding the filesystem, Linux is always miles ahead:

https://openbenchmarking.org/embed.php?i=1806186-PTS-WINDOWSW39&sha=93b643e&p=2

However when it comes to x264 encoding for instance, Windows leads:

https://openbenchmarking.org/embed.php?i=1806186-PTS-WINDOWSW39&sha=1721bb3&p=2

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Me too, especially the cleanly installed (without preinstalled bloatware) windows 10 performs actually quite well. Some things (gimp) are clearly slower, and some things are faster, but in general it is pretty even with equilevant Linux desktops (gnome and kde). Excluding the privacy and security concerns, it’s my favourite Windows version thus far.

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