Why I left Manjaro (thanks for the support)

Hey, I left Manjaro. I had always wanted to try it out. The problem was it was eating too much data for my Myanmar cell connection. I did not figure that into the “up to date” formula. So I went to the pure Deepin OS, but after problems compatibility the store items vs apt (which are different repo sources), I decided to go to KDE Neon which would give me the new Plasma DT while most of the apps would be LTS.

You guys are great though and I wish you success.
Maybe when I have free wifi I will come back. Cheers.


I have left Manjaro so many times … all good for you!


One of the keypoints of Manjaro is - you update when you are ready. This means you install Manjaro - disable the update-reminder - and live happily ever after.

You are not forced to update - it is your decision - you can postpone updates for 1,2,3 or more months if that is what you want.

I disable my update notifiers - but I do update when a I install a new application - which is rare - so I often forget updating - but my system works any way.

Yes - voices are saying you should keep your system up-to-date - but if that is not possible due to bad connection then you don’t have to keep it up-to-date - you won’t even notice.

For the record - I am not advocating a set and forget attitude - but if your circumstances are bad then it is OK - not to update your system.

In such situation I would install a minimal system then add the application I know I use - and I would have to resist the urge to test the latest and greatest - if you get my drift :grin:

This is probably the best choice - if KDE is the favorite desktop.

I settle for less though - running a basic system using compiz cairo dock and rofi menu - nothing else.

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Cheers, hope to see you back when the situation permit

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I don’t know how can you call yourself “SysAdmin - DevSecOps” while at the same time you praise disabled updates on your system and you recommend that to others.

Ever heard of security vulnerabilities?

20 security announcements on manjaro-security mailing list in last 5 days! Example:


The package vlc before version 3.0.12-1 is vulnerable to arbitrary code


Upgrade to 3.0.12-1.

So yeah, you need to upgrade dude.

it is OK - not to update your system.

You’re wrong…

I don’t think he was saying you shouldn’t update your system, as you say there’s regular security updates the recent sudo exploit comes to mind. I think it was more “your system will probably still work the same if you don’t update until you install a new app”

That’s what he said, quote:

One of the keypoints of Manjaro is - you update when you are ready. This means you install Manjaro - disable the update-reminder - and live happily ever after.

This is terrible security practice.

I don’t recommend it to others - I keep my system up-to-date - I just don’t use an update-reminder.

A good sysadmin sees the whole picture - plan accordingly. A good sysadmin keeps the systems up-to-date - and do you really know what devsecops means?

DevSecOps means a developer which develop code with security in mind and can implement the code in production without sacrificing security.

@sawdoctor got my thinking and you @cryptocurious quote me out of context

Of course - if your circumstances are good - you are having an un-metered internet connection you should keep your system up-to-date but as the original poster was not in that position.

The original poster had a cellular access point with poor coverage - and in such situation you don’t use network very often - and as such - your system is not vulnerable the same way as a system constantly surfing porn, warez and questionable content.

@cryptocurious - always get the big picture - when you are giving out advise.

If the system is constantly connected to the internet - then yes - if it is rarely connected then no - simply because most vulnerabilities requires access to the system.

And for the record - it is possible to update e.g. your browser and you mail reader without updating your system.

Again I am not advocating set and forget - I am simply stating the fact a system will continue to work - and if you are rarely using network connections then you are not expected to nor forced to keep your system up-to-date.

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yes… but when i needed an app, like gparted… i had to update.
but I love you guys… you are great at support.
I got scolded on askubuntu for kde neon question.

In any case… manjaro turned me on to having the latest desktop which is probably best done in neon. Perhaps I’ll be back. For latest apps i can use flatpak or snap. Neon also has the snap / flatpak choice in the discover app store which i first learned about in my week of manjaro.

with the exception of KDE - gparted comes preinstalled - KDE has it’s own partition manager.

While the best thing is to keep your system up-to-date - the second best thing is a working system. It is your system - your responsibility - and how you choose to run your system - is entirely your choice.

If you choose to install the system and keep it - mostly offline - then it is your decision - listen to the advise but don’t let other members decide for you.

If you know what you are doing - then do it - if you feel you need gparted on a KDE system install it.

sudo pacman -S gparted

If you have a poor metered bandwidth and only occationaly is using network so be it.

I wanted to do something with exfat and I thought it would work with gparted… So i installed it, but that didn’t work either. But I forget… i think i used a gnome disk util to format exfat. You know the deal… you get something to work after several tries and then you forget which one worked. In any case… got the 4gb update when i installed.

No need for gparted or gnome disks - they are often only frontends for basic system utilities.

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