We should stop using the Realtek r8168 driver by default for RTL8111/8168/8411

The issue was with Manjaro r8168 drivers only. Users reported on Testing update 2023-09-11 that r8168-dkms driver from AUR is working

Presumably no issues with r8168 driver

It is a shame that this discovery was not shared to forum previously
Users would at least have been more aware of the different drivers before having update issues

Anything made in the last four to five years is supported by r8169

So your proposal is that anything > 4-5 years old gets less consideration from Manjaro team and may need AUR driver?

The number of users cannot be estimated with any accuracy. There could be many who have read the different solutions posted on forum and elsewhere and not reported back
The only numbers that I can find that might give an idea of the scale of this:

  • In the last 4 days, 100 users have clicked on the link in stable update Known Issues & Solutions showing all possible options for managing r8168/r8169 driver

  • linux-hardware.org search for Realtek vendor ID and product ID shows:
    3118 Realtek 8168 devices [10ec:8168]
    And 48 Realtek 8168 devices [10ec:8169]

Aside from the failed build of Manjaro mhwd drivers, Has anyone experienced issues with r8168 driver?

Or seen any report that a RTL8111/8168/8411 device does not work with r8168 and works with r8169 only?