[unstable] Manjaro-architect beta testing

netinstall
manjaro-architect

#625

@sueridgepipe
It’s a hidden file! Try listing with ls -la ! :wink:


#626

I agree that listing them during base install would be good. The problem is that at that point the profiles haven’t been downloaded, yet. So automatic evaluation will not not happen and manually listing them felt a bit clumsy - maybe we should do that, though.
We discussed filtering out incompatible profiles during DE install, but we thought that it would look like they didn’t exist.
I would assume that someone who really wants to install a system might look for some information before, especially when he is warned that the desired profile might not be available in the end… Maybe I’m wrong :wink:


#627

Just change the text to explain these are systemd DEs only, and are not listed as they are not available.


#628

I thought ls -al listed hidden files?

alias ll='ls -al'

I can’t function without this alias.

:slight_smile:

Is this a permission thing then, is it root owned?


#629

are you sure about the alias? In my old default manjaro .bashrc it has
alias ll='ls -l --group-directories-first --time-style=+"%d.%m.%Y %H:%M" --color=auto -F'
It is owned by root but should still be listed


#630

I manually add this to all my .bashrc files, I even manually create this alias when I chroot, also use my own llt and lls aliases a lot too, which sort by timestamp and size.

When I manually mount these different root partitions the file is definitely there, but if I try and list it from /mnt directly after installation completes I can’t see it. Strange.

Never mind, as long as its there is all that counts.


#631

Just installed
-Manjaro Base systemd

  • LxQt Unconfigured Desktop
  • Enlightenment Unconfigured Desktop

Boots and functions well in both DEs, well for the 5 minutes I was in each of them.


#632

I think I got the fish issue fixed in git.


#633

Progress is stellar guys n gals, I can barely keep up.

@sueridgepipe just doesn’t let up, does he?, I luv it.
However, Congrats also to all the makers of this to, and you know who you are, but just in case:
@Chrysostomus, @eugen-b, @oberon, @papajoke , …
and the many other Users, Devs, Maintainers,… who’ve tested, and contributed to “m-a” so far.
That’s what a community is all about.
…carry on.
and I’ll try n test a bit more too. :wink:

As my ‘ole sayin’ goes:
"It can never get better, until it get’s worse first !"
and yes, I just made that up now, but actually, that’s likely been said many generational times before, in many other ways, and for the same reasons, but whatever. :smile:


#634

In the final release, will default options be mark before hand? Like base, base-devel etc. Or everything has to be selected manually. I check this thread regularly. Don’t get most of the things but huge thanks to the maintainers and testers. Awesome project! :smile:


#635

@oberon @Chrysostomus

Should I be using unstable version now or git version?


#636

Got the day off work, nobody else is home, the peace and quiet is glorious.

Got the old testing laptop up and running, lets see how manjaro-architect goes.

$ pmarch
Name            : manjaro-architect
Version         : 0.7.4.r342.g9b2ca64-1

Using unstable repo.

$ inxi -Fx
System:    Host: manjaro-hp Kernel: 4.9.13-1-MANJARO x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 6.3.1)
           Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.9.3 (Qt 5.8.0) Distro: Manjaro Linux
Machine:   Device: laptop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP Envy 17 NoteBook PC v: 097E110000405E00000620100
           Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 1966 v: KBC Version 93.51 UEFI: Insyde v: F.62 date: 05/05/2014
Battery    BAT0: charge: 52.1 Wh 100.0% condition: 52.1/52.1 Wh (100%)
           model: Hewlett-Packard Primary status: Full
CPU:       Quad core Intel Core i7-4700MQ (-HT-MCP-) cache: 6144 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 19167
           clock speeds: max: 3400 MHz 1: 2386 MHz 2: 2400 MHz 3: 2400 MHz 4: 2400 MHz 5: 2397 MHz
           6: 3093 MHz 7: 2400 MHz 8: 2399 MHz
Graphics:  Card-1: Intel 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller bus-ID: 00:02.0
           Card-2: NVIDIA GK208M [GeForce GT 740M] bus-ID: 01:00.0
           Display Server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: intel Resolution: 1600x900@60.01hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Haswell Mobile
           GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 17.0.1 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card-1 Intel 8 Series/C220 Series High Definition Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
           Card-2 Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:03.0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.9.13-1-MANJARO
Network:   Card-1: Broadcom Limited BCM4352 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter driver: wl bus-ID: 07:00.0
           IF: wlo1 state: up mac: 54:27:1e:32:6c:35
           Card-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: r8168 v: 8.043.02-NAPI port: 3000 bus-ID: 0f:00.0
           IF: eno1 state: down mac: 
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 2000.4GB (11.9% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: ST1000LM024_HN size: 1000.2GB
           ID-2: /dev/sdb model: ST1000LM024_HN size: 1000.2GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 900G used: 205G (24%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 17.83GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sdb2
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 51.0C mobo: 0.0C
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 236 Uptime: 1:29 Memory: 1627.3/15984.2MB Init: systemd Gcc sys: 6.3.1
           Client: Shell (bash 4.4.121) inxi: 2.3.8

Installing the video driver is confusing when here are a large number of options, including wireless drivers

$ mhwd -l
> 0000:07:00.0 (0200:14e4:43b1) Network controller Broadcom:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                  NAME               VERSION          FREEDRIVER           TYPE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
network-broadcom-wl            2015.12.13                true            PCI


> 0000:00:02.0 (0300:8086:0416) Display controller Intel Corporation:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                  NAME               VERSION          FREEDRIVER           TYPE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
video-hybrid-intel-nvidia-bumblebee            2016.02.05               false            PCI
video-hybrid-intel-nvidia-340xx-bumblebee            2016.02.05               false            PCI
video-hybrid-intel-nouveau-bumblebee            2016.01.28                true            PCI
video-intel            2016.08.22                true            PCI
video-vesa            2012.09.18                true            PCI


> 0000:0f:00.0 (0200:10ec:8168) Network controller Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                  NAME               VERSION          FREEDRIVER           TYPE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
network-r8168            2016.04.20                true            PCI


> 0000:01:00.0 (0302:10de:1292) Display controller nVidia Corporation:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                  NAME               VERSION          FREEDRIVER           TYPE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
video-hybrid-intel-nvidia-bumblebee            2016.02.05               false            PCI
video-hybrid-intel-nvidia-340xx-bumblebee            2016.02.05               false            PCI
video-hybrid-intel-nouveau-bumblebee            2016.01.28                true            PCI
video-nvidia            2017.03.06               false            PCI
video-nvidia-340xx            2016.04.25               false            PCI
video-nouveau            2016.01.28                true            PCI

There are some garbage text entries here, as well as ethernet and wireless drivers.

Does the Manjaro Desktop install include ethernet and wireless driver installations?

I’ll keep going.


#637

Thanks! This is important piece of information. So we need to filter the list a bit.


#638

The install completed, successful boot, but no network access.

Host system KDE drivers

$ mhwd -li
> Installed PCI configs:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                  NAME               VERSION          FREEDRIVER           TYPE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
video-hybrid-intel-nvidia-bumblebee            2016.02.05               false            PCI
network-r8168            2016.04.20                true            PCI
network-broadcom-wl            2015.12.13                true            PCI

Warning: No installed USB configs!

New KDE systemd Full manjaro-architect system, no network drivers installed

$ mhwd -li
> Installed PCI configs:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                  NAME               VERSION          FREEDRIVER           TYPE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
video-hybrid-intel-nvidia-bumblebee            2016.02.05               false            PCI

Warning: No installed USB configs!

Need to boot back into it and do some snooping around… probably also need find an ethernet cable too, hope I have one that reaches the router port.

Using manjaro-architect how would I install a wireless driver during install?

EDIT :

I’m stuck, no network drivers, no internet, how do I now install said missing drivers?

No ifconfig either


#639

In the video drivers menu there was network-broadcom-wl listed. Choosing that would have installed the driver for network. Need to work on this…

I would install the drivers from chroot. Alternatively copy the packages from another installation with USB stick and install with pacman -U


#640

I think we need to add network drivers menu at base installation.


#641

I agree, just need to work out how to parse mhwd output to display the network drivers (ethernet and wireless).

I’m installing again, I forgot I need openvpn and networkmanager-openvpn, my router is locked down to basically enforce only VPN traffic.

EDIT :

Maybe a better idea is to mimic MSM, and create a base install menu item Detect Hardware Drivers. This uses mwd to detect all NICs and their drivers, and all graphic cards and their drivers.

This will allow the selection of multiple drivers, so a level of basic knowledge and common sense would be required to recognise and select the correct ones.

Be good to display these drivers separated by device, open source and proprietary drivers.

We need to think about this.

In the interim I’ll just run Install Video Driver three different times and select a different driver each time (ethernet, wireless, video).


#642

For video drivers I’ll just pipe the list through

    grep "^video-" 

For network I copy the menu and just change the title and switch grep to

     grep "^network-"

Maybe change it to check box menu from radio list


#643

My MSI rig doesn’t have network mhwd drivers listed

Graphics:  Card-1: Intel 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller bus-ID: 00:02.0
           Card-2: NVIDIA GM204M [GeForce GTX 965M] bus-ID: 01:00.0
           Display Server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: intel Resolution: 1920x1080@60.01hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Haswell Mobile GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 17.0.1 Direct Rendering: Yes
Network:   Card-1: Intel Wireless 3160 driver: iwlwifi bus-ID: 03:00.0
           IF: wlp3s0 state: up mac:
           Card-2: Qualcomm Atheros Killer E220x Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: alx port: d000 bus-ID: 04:00.0
           IF: enp4s0 state: down mac:
$ mhwd -li
> Installed PCI configs:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                  NAME               VERSION          FREEDRIVER           TYPE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
video-hybrid-intel-nvidia-bumblebee            2016.02.05               false            PCI

Why is this?


#644

Most network devices work without any special drivers, because support is built in the kernel. I assume this is the case on your rig?