The package grub-update does NOT need to be required by grub

[robin0800]

Why is update-grub optional should it not be a dependency?

[anon51566685]

Why? It’s just one line script to run grub-mkconfig.

[robin0800]

It also supplies /usr/bin/update-grub so without it no sudo update-grub command

[anon51566685]

That’s what I’m talking about. You can run grub-mkconfig.

[robin0800]

That still does not put in update-grub

[Zesko]

@robin0800

so without it no sudo update-grub command

You can create an alias in your favorite shell. For example:
For bash/ zsh users:

alias update-grub="grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg" 

For fish users:

abbr --add update-grub "grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg" 

abbr has an advantage and doesn’t lie to you when update-grub is automatically formulated into the original command after entering the abbreviation in any terminal.

alias or /usr/bin/update-grub is lying to you, because you do not know what is original grub command in update-grub.

[robin0800]

The alias does not provide update-grub for me, I’m using bash

[Zesko]

1. Install grub
2. Open any terminal to run bash
3. Run alias robin0800-updates-grub="grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg"
4. Typing sudo robin0800-updates-grub to see if it works.

[robin0800]

@Zesko

robin0800-updates-grub

This is what I get

sudo: robin0800-updates-grub: command not found

[anon51566685]

You need to source .bashrc or wherever you put it.

Nevermind, for sudo you need to do it a bit differently.
You can try adding another alias

alias sudo='sudo '

[robin0800]

What I did was add these two alias’ to .bashrc

alias update-grub=‘grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg’
alias sudo='sudo ’

then source ~/.bashrc
now sudo update-grub works

[philm]

Well, I dont know why people want to use alias here but ok. Remember that the hook is part of the package when not installed. So update grub menu as needed.

[robin0800]

I agree it is far better to have the update-grub package available but try as I might I can not get it installed, nothing seems to call it?

[bedna]

I think Zesko is asking for the CHOICE to do this.
For 99% of the users, me included, I am completely satisfied with using the provided update-grub but I also understand the request for the ability to change that without breaking dependencies.

Merry xmas!

[Zesko]

You are missing something.

grub.hook was in the previous version 2.12.1 of grub and but not in the old package grub-update.
This package grub-update only contained an additional shell script /usr/bin/update-grub like a shortcut, nothing else. For this reason, it is unnecessary for some advanced users.

After the fixing, grub.hook was moved from the package grub to the other package update-grub, therefore we need this hook in the update-grub .

@bedna

For 99% of the users

Are you sure? There are a lot of other Arch/Arch-based distros that don’t have the package update-grub. Manjaro created it on its own package for Debian users who know update-grub well.

[bedna]

@Zesko

Are you sure? There are a lot of other Arch/Arch-based distros that don’t have the package update-grub.

Ok, maybe not 99%, I meant that figuratively. MOST users on Manjaro.
Yes, I think most manjaro users do not care about this.
But I also hope you get what you want even though you for no reason felt the need to be unfriendly towards me, even though I actually defended your stance.

Merry xmas.