[Testing Update] 2018-06-29 - Linux v4.18-rc2, Pamac, Manjaro-Tools-Git, Haskell, Python



Smooth update. :smile:

Trying out the 4.18rc kernel on Xfce, and no problems so far.


None of the icons have active slider. Also Breeze icons cannot be resized, no matter which category I chose. Is it just my bug or is someone else experiencing it? Or maybe the option becomes active for hidpi screens?


EDIT: may that be caused that I never merged any pacnew since 2,5 year?


17.1.11 ISOs planned soon?


I think the focus is on 18.0.


or maybe the 17.2.0


And this installed cleanly in Virtual Box, unlike the Alpha build.
Thank you.

[Testing Update] 2018-06-30 - Manjaro-Tools, Firefox, Pacman-Mirrors, Mesa

VirtualBox-5.2.12-2 not showing buttons “new”, “start”, “config”, is this a bug, a configuration or now is what it is?

[Stable Update] 2018-07-01 - Kernels, KDE, LibreOffice, Browsers, Mesa, Systemd, Deepin

Right click aside of Toolbar Text, and select Show Toolbar. You will have to do that each time you start it … a bug indeed.


I got my first full-system shutdown crash in a very long time today, some time after installing these updates from the previous testing updates.

All in all, it was a normal workflow’s set of applications running (a smattering of firefoxes, lots of vims, slack, Zoom) and the like, so I can’t be sure what caused it. Anyway, it’s only happened once in 6 or so hours.

Edit: I had just resumed from sleep, opened a youtube video, and tapped on the super key a couple times.

  Host: absurd-reckonings Kernel: 4.17.3-1-MANJARO x86_64 bits: 64 
  compiler: gcc v: 8.1.1 Desktop: Cinnamon 3.8.6 dm: startx 
  Distro: Manjaro Linux 17.1.10 Hakoila 
  Card-1: Intel UHD Graphics 620 driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 
  chip ID: 8086:5917 
  Display: server: X.Org 1.19.6 driver: intel 
  unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa tty: N/A 
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel UHD Graphics 620 (Kabylake GT2) 
  v: 4.5 Mesa 18.1.2 compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes 

I don’t foresee this being a huge deal, but I figured more info is better than less, eh?


Oh wow, thank you for this tip.

For the past couple of weeks or so, my VB Manager UI looked really weird, missing both its Toolbar & ALL the usual Details info, instead displaying only the Snapshots info. I could not deduce why it had broken, & all my attempts to fix it failed.

My initial excitement when i read your advice stalled when i realised that my UI actually had no suitable area in which to do that right-click. Then i realised the problem.

Months ago [when The Debate began about Global Menus vs… actually good layouts, teehee], i had discovered & began using the Application Menu icon [from KDE’s System Settings - Appearance - Application Style - Window Decorations - Buttons - Titlebar]. You can see it in my pic above. I like this because it saves valuable vertical space in all program windows which respect it, whilst still keeping these important control functions within the window [not inconveniently moving them to instead massively clutter my Panel, teehee again (who, me, a provocative tease? nahhhh)].

However the advent of this recent bug [who is at fault here btw; Oracle or KDE?] combined with my use of the AM, completely prevented me being able to apply your simple workaround. Hence, atm sadly, until Oracle or KDE fix the bug, i have had to revert to not using AM, thus now once more wasting some window vertical space… but hey, at least now the VB Manager is fully usable at last!

Plasma is Great!

I am also missing those icons but I can access all needed tools by right clicking chosen virtual system so I’m good. This is an annoying bug but nothing crucial.


Any idea?


Have you checked on other DE?


Excellent idea. I just temporarily installed VB into my Manjaro Xfce VM [within my Tower’s Manjaro KDE OS, ha]. Initially that new VB GUI looked ok, but i then closed & reopened VB [still in my VM, i mean], & the identical bug occurred as in my real KDE, ie, no Toolbar, no Status Bar. I manually reactivated them via rightclick, closed & reopened GUI, & they were gone again. Repeated one last time; gone again.

So, apparently it is an Oracle problem not KDE. It existed in 5.2.12 & now 5.2.14.


It may be Qt related problem. Remember that we’re sitting on very fresh and sometimes bugged, new version and vbox is Qt program. That gave me an idea… Install in vbox ubuntu 18.04, then add vbox and if its version will be too low, add ppa for fresher package and see if the bug also occurs. If yes, it’s not Qt.


I think that as well. Changing themes, changes behavior on me, … and I have serious issue with plasma themes :rage:


I checked on Neon Virtualbox 5.2.14 on Qt 5.6.1 and the bug is not there.


I don’t understand this logic. I explicitly attempted to eliminate that variable by my deliberate choice of a non-Qt DE VM… Xfce, ie, GTK-based. How can it be a Qt problem in that case?


A Qt program is a Qt program and needs Qt. It doesn’t matter if the DE is GTK-based a Qt progamm still uses Qt. This can’t change by the DE. It only can changed in the source and would require a complete rewrite of the vbox UI in Gtk.

If you want to eliminate Qt you need build vbox against an older version of Qt. This is on a rolling release distro a little bit complicated. Sine all needed Qt packages needs to be downgraded.


Thank you but with respect, that is not my objective. I simply wish to identify if the current bug with the Oracle VirtualBox Manager GUI [losing Status Bar & Toolbar after relaunches] is an Oracle bug, a KDE bug, or maybe somehow an Arch/Manjaro bug.

I’ve just done another test:

  1. From https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads downloaded virtualbox-5.2_5.2.14-123301_Ubuntu_xenial_amd64.deb & verified its sha256.
  2. Installed it in my Mint MATE 18.3 VM.
  3. Launched it & created a dummy VM.
  4. Observed that the SB & TB were both present.
  5. Closed the GUI, relaunched it… SB & TB were both present.
  6. Closed the GUI, relaunched it… SB & TB were both present.

So what do my & @michaldybczak’s tests cumulatively tell us … where does the bug lie?