Tried using 5.8 kernels in Manjaro…but problems every time…even if I can use 5.8, sometimes when rebooting it gets stuck with black screen with motherboard logo!
So I tried arch…with 5.8.10 and 5.8.11(updated yesterday)
Everything working perfectly…not a single problem
So why I was facing issues with Manjaro!!??
Is this a driver or software conflict or something else??!!
Well, Manjaro’s 5.8 kernel currently still sits at 5.8.6 for the Stable branch, whereas the Arch kernels you’ve tried are newer ─ Arch is much more bleeding edge than Manjaro Stable, and the closest thing we have to that is Manjaro Unstable.
The bottom line is that you may indeed have stumbled upon a bug in Manjaro’s current 5.8 kernel. But this should then be remedied when the next Stable update arrives, which won’t be long anymore. (Don’t ask when ─ it’ll be ready when it’s ready. 
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Thanks for replying 
I switched to manjaro testing today and installed 5.8.11
Bt with no luck!
Same issue
I really want to use manjaro with latest kernels (I understand I don’t need the latest version…lts is fine for me…but I want to use the latest kernels with Manjaro)
Well, without proper information regarding your hardware, I doubt whether there’s anything anyone can do. And if there’s a proprietary Nvidia driver involved, then all bets are off, because proprietary drivers cannot be debugged by the community.
If you really insist on running the latest kernels ─ although I cannot see why ─ and you want more help, then you’re going to have to give us more information, like for instance the output of the following command… 
inxi -Fxxxza
this is a week old…saved this
System:
Kernel: 5.4.64-1-MANJARO x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.0
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-x86_64 lang=en_US keytable=us tz=UTC
driver=nonfree nouveau.modeset=0 i915.modeset=1 radeon.modeset=1
misobasedir=manjaro misolabel=MANJARO_GNOMEM_201 quiet
systemd.show_status=1 apparmor=1 security=apparmor
Desktop: GNOME 3.36.6 tk: GTK 3.24.23 wm: gnome-shell dm: GDM 3.36.3
Distro: Manjaro Linux
Machine:
Type: Desktop Mobo: Intel model: DH61HO v: AAG62445-102 serial: <filter>
UEFI: Intel v: HOH6110H.86A.0816.2018.1031.1524 date: 10/31/2018
CPU:
Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i7-3770S bits: 64 type: MT MCP
arch: Ivy Bridge family: 6 model-id: 3A (58) stepping: 9 microcode: 20
L2 cache: 8192 KiB
flags: avx lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 49509
Speed: 1597 MHz min/max: 1600/3900 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1596 2: 1596
3: 1596 4: 1597 5: 1597 6: 1597 7: 1594 8: 1597
Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: Split huge pages
Type: l1tf
mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable
Type: mds status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode;
SMT vulnerable
Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI
Type: spec_store_bypass
mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp
Type: spectre_v1
mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, IBPB: conditional,
IBRS_FW, STIBP: conditional, RSB filling
Type: srbds status: Vulnerable: No microcode
Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
Device-1: NVIDIA GP107 [GeForce GTX 1050 Ti] vendor: ZOTAC driver: nvidia
v: 450.66 alternate: nouveau,nvidia_drm bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 10de:1c82
Display: x11 server: X.org 1.20.8 compositor: gnome-shell driver: nvidia
resolution: <xdpyinfo missing>
OpenGL: renderer: GeForce GTX 1050 Ti/PCIe/SSE2 v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 450.66
direct render: Yes
Audio:
Device-1: Intel 6 Series/C200 Series Family High Definition Audio
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 chip ID: 8086:1c20
Device-2: NVIDIA GP107GL High Definition Audio vendor: ZOTAC
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 01:00.1 chip ID: 10de:0fb9
Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.4.64-1-MANJARO
Network:
Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
vendor: Intel driver: r8169 v: kernel port: d000 bus ID: 03:00.0
chip ID: 10ec:8168
IF: enp3s0 state: down mac: <filter>
Device-2: Realtek RTL8188EUS 802.11n Wireless Network Adapter type: USB
driver: r8188eu bus ID: 1-1.1:3 chip ID: 0bda:8179 serial: <filter>
IF: wlp0s26u1u1 state: down mac: <filter>
Device-3: TP-Link UE300 10/100/1000 LAN (ethernet mode) [Realtek RTL8153]
type: USB driver: r8152 bus ID: 4-3:2 chip ID: 2357:0601 serial: <filter>
IF: enp4s0u3 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 1.93 TiB used: 111.58 GiB (5.6%)
SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST500DM002-1BD142 size: 465.76 GiB
block size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s
rotation: 7200 rpm serial: <filter> rev: KC45 scheme: GPT
ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Crucial model: CT500MX500SSD1 size: 465.76 GiB
block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s
serial: <filter> rev: 023 scheme: GPT
ID-3: /dev/sdc type: USB vendor: Seagate model: BUP Slim BK
size: 931.51 GiB block size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B
serial: <filter> rev: 0304 scheme: MBR
ID-4: /dev/sdd type: USB model: TO Exter nal USB 3.0 size: 111.80 GiB
block size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B serial: <filter> rev: 0204
scheme: GPT
Partition:
ID-1: / raw size: N/A size: 11.70 GiB used: 559.9 MiB (4.7%) fs: overlay
source: ERR-102
Swap:
Alert: No Swap data was found.
Unmounted:
ID-1: /dev/dm-0 size: 1.85 GiB fs: <superuser/root required> label: N/A
uuid: N/A
ID-2: /dev/sda1 size: 465.76 GiB fs: ntfs label: New Volume
uuid: A67ACCA77ACC7599
ID-3: /dev/sdb1 size: 100.0 MiB fs: vfat label: SYSTEM uuid: CCB8-59E3
ID-4: /dev/sdb2 size: 391.96 GiB fs: ntfs label: N/A
uuid: ACA0ECC1A0EC92DE
ID-5: /dev/sdb3 size: 505.0 MiB fs: ntfs label: N/A uuid: 80580F7C580F7068
ID-6: /dev/sdb4 size: 73.21 GiB fs: ext4 label: N/A
uuid: c76655e4-412f-4e7c-bcc6-c990096661de
ID-7: /dev/sdd1 size: 111.76 GiB fs: exfat label: Ventoy uuid: 4E21-0000
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 47.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nvidia temp: 38 C
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: nvidia fan: 49%
Info:
Processes: 240 Uptime: 1m Memory: 15.60 GiB used: 839.7 MiB (5.3%)
Init: systemd v: 246 Compilers: gcc: N/A Packages: pacman: 1021 lib: 280
Shell: Zsh v: 5.8 running in: gnome-terminal inxi: 3.1.05
Well, there you have it… My words aren’t even cold yet. 
so it might b a driver issue??
I’m afraid so. There have recently been some changes upstream ─ meaning with the development of the Linux kernel itself ─ with regard to how the Nvidia driver must interface with the kernel, and we’ve been seeing lots of stability problems since then. 
not buying nvidia cards again
they should open source their drivers
btw thanks for helping
with arch I installed nvidia drivers too
Oh, I absolutely agree, and I too am not buying Nvidia anymore. My previous computer had an AMD GPU, and this one here has an Intel GPU. Works like a charm.
My advice to you would be to stick to the 5.4 LTS kernel with that machine. It’s not a very recent machine, and the 5.4 LTS kernel would be better suited for that hardware.
My own machine is more recent than yours, and I too am running the 5.4 LTS kernel. It’s rock-solid. 
yup… lts is the way 2 go
both arch and manjaro had nvidia driver installed with kernel 5.8.11…
so why arch is working fine and manjaro isn’t??
is there any new intel microcode update or something like that?
Well, the Manjaro kernels are compiled by the Manjaro developers and have some Manjaro-specific settings and patches. They are not the same as the Arch kernels.
I don’t think it’s the microcode, because Manjaro Unstable is on par with Arch Stable, and the intel-ucode package currently stands at the same version across all three Manjaro branches.
Okk…understood
I’m staying on lts
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