[Stable Update] 2022-12-06 - Kernels, Mesa, Plasma, Cinnamon, Nvidia, LibreOffice, Pipewire, Virtualbox

[ofc3]

My problems with nvidia hybrid not detecting external monitors didn’t get fixed with the update. I deleted manjaro on 3 machines, bought a desktop to escape this nightmare. Best of luck Manjaro team, it’s been a wonderful 7 years (and I mean that). You made me believe in the linux desktop, the KDE spin was masterful and well maintained. Was.

[hound]

Plasma sitll freezes randomly

[JohnML]

I’m lost: no sound in google chrome or firefox but sound with clementine. I have no idea what to do and return to an backup of 4.12.22

Here some information

Manjaro-log-helper

My PC:

Generated on 2022-12-07 21:05:1670443533

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System:
  Kernel: 5.10.157-1-MANJARO arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0 Desktop: Xfce v: 4.16.1
    Distro: Manjaro Linux base: Arch Linux
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 81RS v: Lenovo Yoga S740-14IIL serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: LENOVO model: LNVNB161216 v: SDK0J40709 WIN serial: <superuser required> UEFI: LENOVO
    v: BYCN39WW date: 05/28/2021
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 63.9 Wh (97.9%) condition: 65.3/62.0 Wh (105.3%) volts: 17.1 min: 15.4
    model: LGC L19L4PD2 status: full
CPU:
  Info: quad core model: Intel Core i7-1065G7 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Ice Lake rev: 5 cache:
    L1: 320 KiB L2: 2 MiB L3: 8 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1135 high: 1241 min/max: 400/3900 cores: 1: 728 2: 1241 3: 1210 4: 1200
    5: 1200 6: 1150 7: 1200 8: 1151 bogomips: 23968
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Iris Plus Graphics G7 vendor: Lenovo driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-11
    bus-ID: 00:02.0
  Device-2: NVIDIA GP108M [GeForce MX250] vendor: Lenovo driver: nvidia v: 525.60.11 arch: Pascal
    bus-ID: 2b:00.0
  Device-3: Chicony Integrated Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 3-5:5
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.4 driver: X: loaded: modesetting,nvidia unloaded: nouveau
    dri: iris gpu: i915 resolution: 1: 1920x1080~60Hz 2: N/A
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 22.2.4 renderer: Mesa Intel Iris Plus Graphics (ICL GT2)
    direct render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Ice Lake-LP Smart Sound Audio vendor: Lenovo driver: sof-audio-pci
    bus-ID: 00:1f.3
  Sound API: ALSA v: k5.10.157-1-MANJARO running: yes
  Sound Interface: sndio v: N/A running: no
  Sound Server-1: PulseAudio v: 16.1 running: no
  Sound Server-2: PipeWire v: 0.3.61 running: yes
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Ice Lake-LP PCH CNVi WiFi driver: iwlwifi v: kernel bus-ID: 00:14.3
  IF: wlp0s20f3 state: up mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Realtek RTL8153 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter type: USB driver: r8152 bus-ID: 2-1.4:4
  IF: enp0s13f0u1u4 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
  IF-ID-1: pan1 state: down mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Intel AX201 Bluetooth type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 3-10:8
  Report: rfkill ID: hci0 rfk-id: 0 state: up address: see --recommends
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 1.86 TiB used: 450.5 GiB (23.7%)
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Micron model: MTFDHBA1T0TCK size: 953.87 GiB temp: 46.9 C
  ID-2: /dev/sda type: USB vendor: Western Digital model: WD10EARX-00N0YB0 size: 931.51 GiB
  ID-3: /dev/sdb type: USB vendor: Kingston model: DataTraveler 2.0 size: 14.54 GiB
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 57.85 GiB used: 42.68 GiB (73.8%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p8
  ID-2: /boot/efi size: 259.5 MiB used: 114.2 MiB (44.0%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1
Swap:
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 16.67 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) dev: /dev/nvme0n1p9
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 50.0 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Info:
  Processes: 277 Uptime: 6m Memory: 15.2 GiB used: 2.04 GiB (13.4%) Init: systemd Compilers:
  gcc: 12.2.0 clang: 14.0.6 Packages: 1972 Client: Unknown Client: wrapper-2.0 inxi: 3.3.23

This Manjaro is useless without sound in browser!

[Begemoth]

For Manjaro, you mean?))

[Begemoth]

This is have no sence since YT uses VP9-AV1 codecs for the most of the times, but for 4k — always. H264 codec Youtube uses extremely rare.

There will be problems with other platforms (Twitch, for example) and the most offline videos.

We can still use mesa-git from AUR, h264-265 didn’t drop out there.

But still this is a shame, I don’t see any reasons for EU distro to drop h264-h265.

[winnie]

@Zesko @MirceaKitsune @zbe @Begemoth

Here is a more accurate test, based on what @Begemoth corrected me on. (Because YouTube videos don’t necessarily use AVC or HEVC, as they are shifting towards more open codecs. Hence, YouTube videos are not good tests.)

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Let this video play for at least 5 to 10 minutes, longer if possible.

Preferably in fullscreen.

Keep an eye on CPU temperatures (all cores and/or composite) throughout.

Keep an eye on CPU usage (all cores and/or composite) throughout.

Repeat the same exact thing after applying the Stable Updates and rebooting.

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The video is nearly 1GB in size, but it’s a high bitrate and resolution, and uses HEVC. It will be a good test on whether or not your GPU is using hardware-accelerated decoding.

A better test would be with a 4K video, but the size would be very large.

Here’s a 4K video that is 3 GB if you want to really give this a proper test:

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1sRvHcH_BSVGELaPb2p_FFjXd53Mzl94L&export=download

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Not just CPU temps and usage, but also how “smoothly” does it play?

[Begemoth]

Little correction: h265 isn’t supported by browsers, just not able to play that codec.

We can use vainfo (terminal command), it shows which codecs you can accelerate and by what. That is mine, for example, with mesa-git:

If you have AMD graphics and mesa from Manjaro repo, you will see output from this post.

[marlop]

well, it still is you just need a distro that hasn’t disabled the feature or compile it where it has. And so far as compiling Manjaro is probably one of the easiest.

[Leo]

I was getting an issue with window positioning in kwin wayland. The window rules did not work. Deleting old rules and creating them again solved the issue

[MirceaKitsune]

Not gonna spend that much time on it, was just curious to test it to some extent. Did the first one in both VLC and Dragon Player: Only between 5% and 10% CPU usage, so basically same as Youtube in Firefox.

[Leo]

Upstream mesa removal of AVC/HEVC/VC-1 hardware acceleration (AMD GPUs)

Why can’t manjaro not have 2 mesa packages: First one is default and does not support patented codecs Second one in repos with support for all codecs As far as I can see, its just a single line difference in pkgbuild, but it would save the effort to recompile for a lot of users, and reduce risk of crashes or bugs with git package and manually compiled packages. Since the mesa package with codec support is manually installed by user, manjaro is not liable for any of the legal troubles. This w…

[wpeckham]

On my Dell Ultrabook the kernel 6.1 fails to boot. Solution was fallback to 6.0. No other issues so far.

[tracyanne]

But,but, but… I can vote for only 1 computer. It doesn’t let me vote for the others

[oneno]

Thanks.
Have a clonezilla image to redo system partition.

[djaro]

This batch of updates seems to have severely crippled pulseaudio … having to restart the pulseaudio server every few minutes after the audio completely dies, then restart VLC, reload a YouTube video, etc, until the audio dies again, sometimes just from pausing YouTube or VLC playback. See this related thread:

Audio Not Working After Update

My Audio is acting wired my audio was working great before update after update My audio works fine I restart my device once I pause the audio (YouTube Video) Then My Audio is Stopped Completely Until I restart it again. I had checked other related topics but didn’t find any solution.

[freggel.doe]

@wpeckham

kernel 6.1

You do know that ketnel is still in its rc phase, don’t you?

[Zesko]

@winnie, @MirceaKitsune, @Begemoth

VLC, mpv, SMPlayer,Firefox and Chromium based browsers … use the dependence ffmpeg by default. I think ffmpeg supports H264 and H265 encoding and decoding. They do not need to use mesa.

Edit://
ffmpeg uses mesa for AMD GPU: Hardware/VAAPI – FFmpeg
I will test it later when I’m at home.

[marlop]

If you check how ffmpeg deals with hardware acceleration for encode/decode you will see that for AMD it uses va-api provided by mesa, that in this update was disabled for h264 and h265. Intel and NVIDIA are unaffected as they use different code/package.
The amdgpu-pro driver might be unaffected too but I haven’t researched it, so I don’t know.

[sobrus]

To check whether hardware acceleration is currently running during playback (as root/sudo)
cat /sys/kernel/debug/dri/0/amdgpu_pm_info | grep VCN:

I’m still trying to figure out the reasoning for this change.

• Neither intel open source driver nor mesa driver is being developed by manjaro team, but included in manjaro repositories.
• Also, this won’t block anyone from encoding and decoding streams (so using MPEG-LA intellectual property) in software,
• Neither driver contains any patented code or logic, and only provides an API to EXTERNAL hardware that implements the function, that is developed, manufactured by legal companies, and bought and installed by the user or machine manufacturer. Not manjaro team.
• And the machine itself is being used by the user, and the user holds responsibility how it is using it. Not manjaro (or any other distro) team.

Isn’t it ironic, that large companies use free open source encoders like x265 to deliver often paid and copyrighted content to users who are going to be not allowed to decode it on expensive proprietary hardware they paid for?

[Delor3an91]

Hi,

I don’t now if it’s link. It happened for me too with this update on a MSI laptop running on wayland and battery during the update.

Ctrl+alt+F3 (or other one) didn’t help but cap still respond.

I wait a few and hard reboot.

Wish You well