Again it is just philosophy, and as Manjaro is Arch derivative, many packages will bring this philosophy. But this is not place to discus such thing.
Update on 12 Systems without Problems.
DK3
Yes that is true, not everyone use printers. Set up printers is sometimes tricky in Linux.
I do not blame Manjaro on this, I understood this is an Arch based distro.
I prefer Manjaro to Arch because I need a rolling distro , that is fast , reliable , but do not update in every hour.
I had issues with upgrading my system with pamac and since then I mainly use pacman to upgrade my system.
So this is pure Arch philosophy , nothing else. Not for average users, right ?
Not so user friendly, RTFM .
I was not aware of the output when updating cups :
[2020-11-28T14:39:01+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] >>> Cups systemd socket and service files have been
[2020-11-28T14:39:01+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] >>> renamed by upstream decision. Please make sure
[2020-11-28T14:39:01+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] >>> to disable/reenable the services to your need.
[2020-11-28T14:39:01+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] >>> hint: “pacman -Ql cups | grep systemd” and
[2020-11-28T14:39:01+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] >>> “ls -lR /etc/systemd/ | grep cups”
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“Hint” 
Packaging is hard but some people are just lazy
Update at VMware guest with KDE went without issues.
FYI Mesa 20.2.3 still have KDE grafics bug.
So I had to stay with AUR’s mesa-llvm-rc 20.3-rc2.
Very strange. I installed LibreOffice-fresh from Manjaro-application-utility with open-jdk (first choice) during installation packages. I received these errors when I launched the application:
“javaldx failed!
Warning: failed to read path from javaldx”
Then I removed LibreOffice-fresh and I reinstalled it with pamac, and I tried openjr8 as choice. I didn’t have these errors above but LibreOffice don’t start.
In the ~./config directory, I don’t have libreoffice directory.
Can you try to install unoconv with libreoffice-fresh 7.0.3-2 ? Because I installed it during the first installation with LibreOffice-fresh.
Note: look that discussion here, here and here.
I will give you the result of strace soffice command or libreoffice --strace 
I created another user and I will try to launch LibreOffice-fresh with him.
Regards.
Edit: With the other user, I’ve got the same errors. 
libreoffice directory is available in the ~/.config directory of the 2 users.
Unoconv package is not installed.
The libreoffice -v command give me this result:
terminate called after throwing an instance of ‘com::sun:
:uno::DeploymentException’
I send you the strace.log messages in PM.
@Frog
I wonder why it has not been automated with some scripting in post upgrade though. It could have been put in post upgrade of `cups
Because users do not want that a distribution will activate services by upgrade.
@laosom
I love this distro, but this is not really a user friendly in Manjaro. I switched from KDE Neon and I am not used to so many manual hackings after each update.
This is the difference between a rolling release and a distro with stable versions.
In rolling users will get changes time by time. In a stable distro you will get many changes at one point when you install a new version.
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In this case, it is more enabling a service that was supposed to be enabled to begin with, but is not anymore because of the name change. By introducing the condition I suggested, it won’t just enable it no matter what, but just if it was enabled beforehand (so it continues to be enabled after the change).
It is not a case of, for example, enabling smb.service and nmb.service by default just because you install the samba package.
Being based on Arch does not imply always follow the philosophy of its parent. There is little to no point to create a fork or a derivative if it is just to follow the same route as the original one.
Ubuntu is based on Debian, and oh boy are they different in term of mentality, am I right?
Manjaro has already derived far from Arch Linux with stuff like having an automated and graphical installer and having GUI tools to manage the system. And Manjaro already goes in a more corporate direction, wanting to sell hardware and stuff; and if they actually want to have a successful business, they will most likely have to go to a direction that will appeal to a broader audience, a broader market (and thus going more and more away from the Arch philosophy) .
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Mine did the full update.
Broke LDM which I fixed eventually.
All working now BUT Google maps / Streetview and Youtube inside Firefox all very sluggish.
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce GTX 1060 6GB/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL core profile version string: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 455.45.01
OpenGL core profile shading language version string: 4.60 NVIDIA
OpenGL core profile context flags: (none)
OpenGL core profile profile mask: core profile
OpenGL core profile extensions:
OpenGL version string: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 455.45.01
OpenGL shading language version string: 4.60 NVIDIA
OpenGL context flags: (none)
OpenGL profile mask: (none)
OpenGL extensions:
OpenGL ES profile version string: OpenGL ES 3.2 NVIDIA 455.45.01
OpenGL ES profile shading language version string: OpenGL ES GLSL ES 3.20
OpenGL ES profile extensions:No!
There are some little but very impotent things a distro never have to change.
One of these things is:
Never ever activate a system output without asking the user explicitly.
Manjaro will have no users very soon, if they would follow your opinion.
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So many changes and so ‘stable’ that do-release-upgrade leads to an unbootable system unless you jump through the hoops to run grub-install manually at the right moment 
I think warning messages at the bottom of the pacman output will be enough.
Search among many text lines in the pacman is very annoying.
I don’t think this solution would break the Arch/Manjaro philosophy.
Anyway, I prefer a rolling distro.
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Updated with TTY - DesktopBox-Intel i7 Dual screens LTS kernel KDE plasma stable edition ,
Quick check all apps working ,
Thank You
@philm I tag you because you are the mantainer of the package.
bluetooth is not connecting to at least sound devices because of pulseaudio-modules-bt. Installing pulseaudio-bluetooth has workarounded this and the git version of the package is working well too but the official repo ones, not. I think the package needs to be updated, right?
I agree with this. On Gentoo, for example, output is collected while building & installing, then presented to the user at the end—so the user doesn’t have to go hunt for it. (It’s pretty much a necessity there, in case the user isn’t running in “quiet” mode and has thousands of lines of compiler output and such.) I’d fully support such a “quality of life” change. 
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Yes, a message at the bottem of pacman would be a very nice thing, if a manual task is needed after a package upgrade.
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Upgrade went smooth mostly, except for when I click on “Printers” inside the status and notifications section (Running Manjaro KDE), it says “Print Service Is Unavailable.”
I ran thru the CUPS update commands that were outlined, but not sure if my printer is currently broken and inaccessible from my Manjaro installation.
Any help would be super appreciated! Thanks in advance to everyone for your time and help!!
Except dont.
Never use sudo on your HOME.
Its a bad idea … and besides, you dont need to … you can just move or rename that file without it.
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Please read “Known issues and solutions” in the top of the page.
CUPS update needs manula intervention.
Yes , you are right.
Manjaro is awesome making Arch based Linux user friendly in many ways.
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