Sound working but no devices in plasma applet

I seem to be beset with weird problems on this fresh install :smiley:

  • Sound works, can change volume with hardware keys

  • Kmix works, though the icon shows muted all the time.

  • pa-applet works.

What I have tried:

  • Deleted ~/.config/pulse and rebooted

  • Edited /etc/pulse/client.conf chagged autospawn to yes.



No devices:

And to boot, spectacle segfaults, but runs fine from a terminal :confounded:

Any ideas?

System:    Kernel: 5.4.2-1-MANJARO x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 9.2.0 Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.17.4 tk: Qt 5.13.2 
           info: latte-dock wm: kwin_x11 dm: LightDM 1.30.0, SDDM Distro: Manjaro Linux 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: Notebook product: W65_67SZ v: N/A serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 9 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: Notebook model: W65_67SZ serial: <filter> BIOS: American Megatrends v: 1.03.05 date: 02/26/2014 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 47.0 Wh condition: 47.0/48.8 Wh (96%) volts: 12.3/11.1 model: Notebook BAT type: Li-ion 
           serial: <filter> status: Full 
CPU:       Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i5-4310M bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Haswell rev: 3 L2 cache: 3072 KiB 
           flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 21561 
           Speed: 870 MHz min/max: 800/3400 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1106 2: 1109 3: 1314 4: 1162 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics vendor: CLEVO/KAPOK driver: i915 v: kernel 
           bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:0416 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.6 driver: intel unloaded: modesetting alternate: fbdev,vesa compositor: kwin_x11 
           resolution: 1600x900~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Haswell Mobile v: 4.5 Mesa 19.2.7 compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio vendor: CLEVO/KAPOK driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
           bus ID: 00:03.0 chip ID: 8086:0c0c 
           Device-2: Intel 8 Series/C220 Series High Definition Audio vendor: CLEVO/KAPOK driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
           bus ID: 00:1b.0 chip ID: 8086:8c20 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.4.2-1-MANJARO 
Network:   Device-1: Intel Wireless 7260 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel port: f040 bus ID: 04:00.0 chip ID: 8086:08b1 
           IF: wlp4s0 state: up mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: CLEVO/KAPOK driver: r8169 v: kernel 
           port: e000 bus ID: 05:00.2 chip ID: 10ec:8168 
           IF: enp5s0f2 state: down mac: <filter> 
           IF-ID-1: docker0 state: down mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 2.05 TiB used: 306.54 GiB (14.6%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST2000LM003 HN-M201RAD size: 1.82 TiB speed: 3.0 Gb/s rotation: 5400 rpm 
           serial: <filter> rev: 0001 scheme: MBR 
           ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Samsung model: SSD 860 EVO 250GB size: 232.89 GiB speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: 1B6Q 
           scheme: MBR 
Partition: ID-1: / size: 228.23 GiB used: 31.57 GiB (13.8%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb1 
           ID-2: /home size: 1.79 TiB used: 274.97 GiB (15.0%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 52.0 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Info:      Processes: 242 Uptime: 40m Memory: 7.70 GiB used: 2.77 GiB (36.0%) Init: systemd v: 242 Compilers: gcc: 9.2.0 
           clang: 9.0.0 Shell: zsh v: 5.7.1 running in: server inxi: 3.0.37 

How did you install this? Any nice trick used? or standard installers (which one?)?
Try with a new user.

No need to say... update packages :laughing:!
And of course... check the logs!!

systemctl --user status pulseaudio.service pulseaudio.socket

and check if 'module-device-manager' is listed in
pactl list short modules
if module is absent may be cause of problem with plasma settings

2014 BIOS? (my personal favorite.)

My question is why is it showing 2 separate audio devices?
On all my core I3, I5, and I7 systems I only show one device.

Your system:

Device-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio vendor: CLEVO/KAPOK driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:03.0 chip ID: 8086:0c0c

Device-2: Intel 8 Series/C220 Series High Definition Audio vendor: CLEVO/KAPOK driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 chip ID: 8086:8c20 Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.4.2-1-MANJARO

My System:

Device-1: Intel Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.85-1-MANJARO

Why pavucontrol?
Plasma has it's own pulse audio control built in:

To answer the questions:

  • Standard iso install, back to ext4 from btrfs, so all drives reformatted. Updated of course :smiley:

  • Don't think there is a bios update - couldn't find one on the clevo site.

  • Can't try @nikgnomic idea as I restored a timeshift backup.

All of the last 5 timeshift backups didn't fix it, but an on-demand from 2nd November did (late last night), I had 700+ updates. But am working.

@AJSlye - Two sound devices, HDMI & Normal

But working - I think the problems all relate to what ever changed my host-name to linux.local changing that back fixed a lot.

And spectacle now works...

Thinking about it - I have seen a linux.local hosts on here recently:

OK, my next question would then be, why is the hdmi output not showing up under pavucontrol?
This might just be what is messing with the mixer applet.

Because I am not using it, it is a laptop, I don't plug in an external monitor / TV so it is turned off:

Top one is HDMI, bottom one sound card. (Obviously this screenshot is from a restored machine :smiley: )

You might need to reverse their order.
The mixer applet typically picks up the first device in the list.

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What should be done if module-device-manager is missing? I tried the adding the module to as described here and additionally tried running pacmd load-module module-device-manager. However in both cases pactl list short sinks still doesn't show the module. Incidentally, running start-pulseaudio-x11 returns Failure: Module initialization failed unless I run pulseaudio -k beforehand. I don't know if that's normal. Just like the OP, I can control audio devices in pavucontrol just fine, and I've previously tried the same things regarding pulseaudio's config files.

reboot - KDE Plasma Workspaces and Qt4

see the KDE page in the PulseAudio wiki.
One useful tidbit from that page is that load-module module-device-manager should be loaded. This usually happens automatically at login through the script /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11

pavucontrol does not display changes to Pulseaudio server and systemd pulseaudio.service

Thanks for the tip on restarting pulseaudio. However my problem is that module-device-manager is never loaded (in that it appears in sinks), either when I runload-module myself or after start-pulseaudio-x11 has executed.

Edit: after updating plasma-pa to 5.17.4-1 it all started working normally! pactl list short sinks still doesn't show module-device-manager so I guess that wasn't the problem after all.

check pulseaudio systemd service and socket

systemctl --user status pulseaudio.service pulseaudio.socket

install and run pasystray

check server strings and 3 modules already mentioned
non-KDE users will only see two x-11 modules

command in post #3 was incorrect (now edited)
list of sinks would never show modules

correct command is - pactl list short modules

plasma-pa depends on pulseaudio and could be affected by absence of module-device-manager
i cannot be any more specific about packages or modules i do not have or use

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