[SOLVED] Manjaro i3 VERY SLOW app launch times.

It takes 25 seconds for all apps, including terminal emulators, to launch. They are all VERY slow. This started recently with no clear indicitaion as to what triggered it. This is a MBP retina 2015 with a dual core i5 and 8 gigs of ram. I have no clue what the issue is that is causing this spike in load times. I have tried all sorts of solutions including others on this forum, none have worked. NONE. It is very frustrating as I otherwise love the system.
i3 config is attached:

# i3 config file (v4)
# Please see http://i3wm.org/docs/userguide.html for a complete reference!

# Set mod key (Mod1=<Alt>, Mod4=<Super>)
set $mod Mod4

# set default desktop layout (default is tiling)
# workspace_layout tabbed <stacking|tabbed>

# Configure border style <normal|1pixel|pixel xx|none|pixel>
new_window pixel 1
new_float normal

# Hide borders
hide_edge_borders none

# change borders
bindsym $mod+u border none
bindsym $mod+y border pixel 1
bindsym $mod+n border normal

# Font for window titles. Will also be used by the bar unless a different font
# is used in the bar {} block below.
font xft:URWGothic-Book 11

# Use Mouse+$mod to drag floating windows
floating_modifier $mod

# start a terminal
bindsym $mod+Return exec terminator;

# kill focused window
bindsym $mod+Shift+q kill

# start program launcher
bindsym $mod+d exec --no-startup-id ulauncher

# launch categorized menu
bindsym $mod+z exec --no-startup-id morc_menu
bindcode $mod+23 workspace next
################################################################################################
## sound-section - DO NOT EDIT if you wish to automatically upgrade Alsa -> Pulseaudio later! ##
################################################################################################

exec --no-startup-id volumeicon
bindsym $mod+Ctrl+m exec terminal -e 'alsamixer'
#exec --no-startup-id pulseaudio
#exec --no-startup-id pa-applet
#bindsym $mod+Ctrl+m exec pavucontrol

################################################################################################

# Screen brightness controls
# bindsym XF86MonBrightnessUp exec "xbacklight -inc 10; notify-send 'brightness up'"
# bindsym XF86MonBrightnessDown exec "xbacklight -dec 10; notify-send 'brightness down'"

# Pulse Audio controls
bindsym XF86AudioRaiseVolume exec --no-startup-id "pactl -- set-sink-volume 0 +5%; notify-send 'volume up'"
bindsym XF86AudioLowerVolume exec --no-startup-id "pactl -- set-sink-volume 0 -5%; notify-send 'volume down'"
bindsym XF86AudioMute exec --no-startup-id pactl set-sink-mute 0 toggle # mute sound


# Start Applications
bindsym $mod+Ctrl+b exec terminal -e 'bmenu'
bindsym $mod+F3 exec pcmanfm
# bindsym $mod+F3 exec ranger
bindsym $mod+Shift+F3 exec gksu pcmanfm
bindsym $mod+F5 exec terminal -e 'mocp'
bindsym $mod+Shift+d --release exec "killall dunst; exec notify-send 'restart dunst'"
bindsym Print exec --no-startup-id i3-scrot
bindsym $mod+Print --release exec --no-startup-id i3-scrot -w
bindsym $mod+Shift+Print --release exec --no-startup-id i3-scrot -s
bindsym $mod+Shift+h exec xdg-open /usr/share/doc/manjaro/i3_help.pdf
bindsym $mod+Ctrl+x --release exec --no-startup-id xkill

# focus_follows_mouse no

# change focus
bindsym $mod+j focus left
bindsym $mod+k focus down
bindsym $mod+l focus up
bindsym $mod+semicolon focus right

# alternatively, you can use the cursor keys:
bindsym $mod+Left focus left
bindsym $mod+Down focus down
bindsym $mod+Up focus up
bindsym $mod+Right focus right

# move focused window
bindsym $mod+Shift+j move left
bindsym $mod+Shift+k move down
bindsym $mod+Shift+l move up
bindsym $mod+Shift+semicolon move right

# alternatively, you can use the cursor keys:
bindsym $mod+Shift+Left move left
bindsym $mod+Shift+Down move down
bindsym $mod+Shift+Up move up
bindsym $mod+Shift+Right move right

# workspace back and forth (with/without active container)
workspace_auto_back_and_forth yes
bindsym $mod+b workspace back_and_forth
bindsym $mod+Shift+b move container to workspace back_and_forth

# split orientation
bindsym $mod+h split h;exec notify-send 'tile horizontally'
bindsym $mod+v split v;exec notify-send 'tile vertically'
bindsym $mod+q split toggle

# toggle fullscreen mode for the focused container
bindsym $mod+f fullscreen toggle

# change container layout (stacked, tabbed, toggle split)
bindsym $mod+s layout stacking
bindsym $mod+w layout tabbed
bindsym $mod+e layout toggle split

# toggle tiling / floating
bindsym $mod+Shift+space floating toggle

# change focus between tiling / floating windows
bindsym $mod+space focus mode_toggle

# toggle sticky
bindsym $mod+Shift+s sticky toggle

# focus the parent container
bindsym $mod+a focus parent

# move the currently focused window to the scratchpad
bindsym $mod+Shift+minus move scratchpad

# Show the next scratchpad window or hide the focused scratchpad window.
# If there are multiple scratchpad windows, this command cycles through them.
bindsym $mod+minus scratchpad show

#navigate workspaces next / previous
bindsym $mod+Ctrl+Right workspace next
bindsym $mod+Ctrl+Left workspace prev

# Workspace names
# to display names or symbols instead of plain workspace numbers you can use
# something like: set $ws1 1:mail
#                 set $ws2 2:
workspace "1:Main" output eDP1
workspace "2:Work #1" output eDP1
workspace "3:Work #2" output eDP1
workspace "4:Work #3" output eDP1
workspace "5:Work #4" output eDP1
workspace "6:Media" output eDP1
workspace "7:Communication" output eDP1
workspace "8:Presentation" output HDMI

set $ws1 "1:main"
set $ws2 "2:Work #1"
set $ws3 "3:Work #2"
set $ws4 "4:Work #3"
set $ws5 "5:Work #4"
set $ws6 "6:Media"
set $ws7 "7:Communication"
set $ws8 "8:Presentation"


# switch to workspace
bindsym $mod+1 workspace $ws1
bindsym $mod+2 workspace $ws2
bindsym $mod+3 workspace $ws3
bindsym $mod+4 workspace $ws4
bindsym $mod+5 workspace $ws5
bindsym $mod+6 workspace $ws6
bindsym $mod+7 workspace $ws7
bindsym $mod+8 workspace $ws8

# Move focused container to workspace
bindsym $mod+Ctrl+1 move container to workspace $ws1
bindsym $mod+Ctrl+2 move container to workspace $ws2
bindsym $mod+Ctrl+3 move container to workspace $ws3
bindsym $mod+Ctrl+4 move container to workspace $ws4
bindsym $mod+Ctrl+5 move container to workspace $ws5
bindsym $mod+Ctrl+6 move container to workspace $ws6
bindsym $mod+Ctrl+7 move container to workspace $ws7
bindsym $mod+Ctrl+8 move container to workspace $ws8

# Move to workspace with focused container
bindsym $mod+Shift+1 move container to workspace $ws1; workspace $ws1
bindsym $mod+Shift+2 move container to workspace $ws2; workspace $ws2
bindsym $mod+Shift+3 move container to workspace $ws3; workspace $ws3
bindsym $mod+Shift+4 move container to workspace $ws4; workspace $ws4
bindsym $mod+Shift+5 move container to workspace $ws5; workspace $ws5
bindsym $mod+Shift+6 move container to workspace $ws6; workspace $ws6
bindsym $mod+Shift+7 move container to workspace $ws7; workspace $ws7
bindsym $mod+Shift+8 move container to workspace $ws8; workspace $ws8

# Open applications on specific workspaces
# assign [class="Thunderbird"] $ws1
# assign [class="Pale moon"] $ws2
# assign [class="Pcmanfm"] $ws3
# assign [class="Skype"] $ws5

# Open specific applications in floating mode
for_window [title="alsamixer"] floating enable border pixel 1
for_window [class="calamares"] floating enable border normal
for_window [class="Clipgrab"] floating enable
for_window [title="File Transfer*"] floating enable
for_window [class="Galculator"] floating enable border pixel 1
for_window [class="GParted"] floating enable border normal
for_window [title="i3_help"] floating enable sticky enable border normal
for_window [class="Lightdm-settings"] floating enable
for_window [class="Lxappearance"] floating enable sticky enable border normal
for_window [class="Manjaro-hello"] floating enable
for_window [class="Manjaro Settings Manager"] floating enable border normal
for_window [title="MuseScore: Play Panel"] floating enable
for_window [class="Nitrogen"] floating enable sticky enable border normal
for_window [class="Oblogout"] fullscreen enable
for_window [class="octopi"] floating enable
for_window [title="About Pale Moon"] floating enable
for_window [class="Pamac-manager"] floating enable
for_window [class="Pavucontrol"] floating enable
for_window [class="qt5ct"] floating enable sticky enable border normal
for_window [class="Qtconfig-qt4"] floating enable sticky enable border normal
for_window [class="Simple-scan"] floating enable border normal
for_window [class="(?i)System-config-printer.py"] floating enable border normal
for_window [class="Skype"] floating enable border normal
for_window [class="Timeset-gui"] floating enable border normal
for_window [class="(?i)virtualbox"] floating enable border normal
for_window [class="Xfburn"] floating enable

# switch to workspace with urgent window automatically
for_window [urgent=latest] focus

# reload the configuration file
bindsym $mod+Shift+c reload

# restart i3 inplace (preserves your layout/session, can be used to upgrade i3)
bindsym $mod+Shift+r restart

# exit i3 (logs you out of your X session)
bindsym $mod+Shift+e exec "i3-nagbar -t warning -m 'You pressed the exit shortcut. Do you really want to exit i3? This will end your X session.' -b 'Yes, exit i3' 'i3-msg exit'"

# Set shut down, restart and locking features
bindsym $mod+0 mode "$mode_system"
set $mode_system (l)ock, (e)xit, switch_(u)ser, (s)uspend, (h)ibernate, (r)eboot, (Shift+s)hutdown
mode "$mode_system" {
    bindsym l exec --no-startup-id i3exit lock, mode "default"
    bindsym s exec --no-startup-id i3exit suspend, mode "default"
    bindsym u exec --no-startup-id i3exit switch_user, mode "default"
    bindsym e exec --no-startup-id i3exit logout, mode "default"
    bindsym h exec --no-startup-id i3exit hibernate, mode "default"
    bindsym r exec --no-startup-id i3exit reboot, mode "default"
    bindsym Shift+s exec --no-startup-id i3exit shutdown, mode "default"

    # exit system mode: "Enter" or "Escape"
    bindsym Return mode "default"
    bindsym Escape mode "default"
}

# Resize window (you can also use the mouse for that)
bindsym $mod+r mode "resize"
mode "resize" {
        # These bindings trigger as soon as you enter the resize mode
        # Pressing left will shrink the window’s width.
        # Pressing right will grow the window’s width.
        # Pressing up will shrink the window’s height.
        # Pressing down will grow the window’s height.
        bindsym j resize shrink width 5 px or 5 ppt
        bindsym k resize grow height 5 px or 5 ppt
        bindsym l resize shrink height 5 px or 5 ppt
        bindsym semicolon resize grow width 5 px or 5 ppt

        # same bindings, but for the arrow keys
        bindsym Left resize shrink width 10 px or 10 ppt
        bindsym Down resize grow height 10 px or 10 ppt
        bindsym Up resize shrink height 10 px or 10 ppt
        bindsym Right resize grow width 10 px or 10 ppt

        # exit resize mode: Enter or Escape
        bindsym Return mode "default"
        bindsym Escape mode "default"
}

# Lock screen
bindsym $mod+9 exec --no-startup-id blurlock

# Autostart applications
exec --no-startup-id /usr/lib/polkit-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1
#exec --no-startup-id manjaro-hello
exec --no-startup-id nm-applet
exec --no-startup-id xfce4-power-manager
exec --no-startup-id pamac-tray
exec --no-startup-id clipit
# exec --no-startup-id blueman-applet
# exec_always --no-startup-id sbxkb
exec --no-startup-id xautolock -time 10 -locker blurlock
exec_always --no-startup-id ff-theme-util
exec_always --no-startup-id fix_xcursor

# Color palette used for the terminal ( ~/.Xresources file )
# Colors are gathered based on the documentation:
# https://i3wm.org/docs/userguide.html#xresources
# Change the variable name at the place you want to match the color
# of your terminal like this:
# [example]
# If you want your bar to have the same background color as your
# terminal background change the line 362 from:
# background #14191D
# to:
# background $term_background
# Same logic applied to everything else.
set_from_resource $term_background background
set_from_resource $term_foreground foreground
set_from_resource $term_color0     color0
set_from_resource $term_color1     color1
set_from_resource $term_color2     color2
set_from_resource $term_color3     color3
set_from_resource $term_color4     color4
set_from_resource $term_color5     color5
set_from_resource $term_color6     color6
set_from_resource $term_color7     color7
set_from_resource $term_color8     color8
set_from_resource $term_color9     color9
set_from_resource $term_color10    color10
set_from_resource $term_color11    color11
set_from_resource $term_color12    color12
set_from_resource $term_color13    color13
set_from_resource $term_color14    color14
set_from_resource $term_color15    color15



# Theme colors
# class                   border  backgr. text    indic.   child_border
  client.focused          #556064 #556064 #ffffff #FDF6E3
  client.focused_inactive #2F3D44 #2F3D44 #ffffff #454948
  client.unfocused        #2F3D44 #2F3D44 #888888 #454948
  client.urgent           #CB4B16 #FDF6E3 #ffffff #268BD2
  client.placeholder      #000000 #0c0c0c #ffffff #000000

  client.background       #2B2C2B

#############################
### settings for i3-gaps: ###
#############################

# Set inner/outer gaps
gaps inner 15
gaps outer -1

# Additionally, you can issue commands with the following syntax. This is useful to bind keys to changing the gap size.
# gaps inner|outer current|all set|plus|minus <px>
# gaps inner all set 10
# gaps outer all plus 5

# Smart gaps (gaps used if only more than one container on the workspace)
smart_gaps on

# Smart borders (draw borders around container only if it is not the only container on this workspace)
# on|no_gaps (on=always activate and no_gaps=only activate if the gap size to the edge of the screen is 0)
smart_borders on

# Press $mod+Shift+g to enter the gap mode. Choose o or i for modifying outer/inner gaps. Press one of + / - (in-/decrement for current workspace) or 0 (remove gaps for current workspace). If you also press Shift with these keys, the change will be global for all workspaces.
set $mode_gaps Gaps: (o) outer, (i) inner
set $mode_gaps_outer Outer Gaps: +|-|0 (local), Shift + +|-|0 (global)
set $mode_gaps_inner Inner Gaps: +|-|0 (local), Shift + +|-|0 (global)
bindsym $mod+Shift+g mode "$mode_gaps"

mode "$mode_gaps" {
        bindsym o      mode "$mode_gaps_outer"
        bindsym i      mode "$mode_gaps_inner"
        bindsym Return mode "default"
        bindsym Escape mode "default"
}
mode "$mode_gaps_inner" {
        bindsym plus  gaps inner current plus 5
        bindsym minus gaps inner current minus 5
        bindsym 0     gaps inner current set 0

        bindsym Shift+plus  gaps inner all plus 5
        bindsym Shift+minus gaps inner all minus 5
        bindsym Shift+0     gaps inner all set 0

        bindsym Return mode "default"
        bindsym Escape mode "default"
}
mode "$mode_gaps_outer" {
        bindsym plus  gaps outer current plus 5
        bindsym minus gaps outer current minus 5
        bindsym 0     gaps outer current set 0

        bindsym Shift+plus  gaps outer all plus 5
        bindsym Shift+minus gaps outer all minus 5
        bindsym Shift+0     gaps outer all set 0

        bindsym Return mode "default"
        bindsym Escape mode "default"
}

exec_always "bash ~/startup.sh"

exec --no-startup-id i3-msg workspace $ws1

Would be helpful to know what road you took, what you looked for, what fixes you tried.
The i3 config if has errors would be shown/reported, but doesn't have influence on performance AFAIK. Maybe you have to look at the compton config or power management, GPU drivers ... Is your install on SSD or HDD?
inxi -Fxxxz
would be more useful for whoever will try to help, some logs ...

I have tried everything in this: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=243737 thread. Didnt help at all. Its an SSD, the stock that came with the macbook pro. it isnt a computer problem, because these apps ran fine in Gnome on Ubuntu (I switched to manjaro so that later i might switch my main computer and I wanted to get a feel for it.) However, it turns out to be SLOWER than gnome which is the opposite of what I expected.I also have a polybar runnning with lots of fonts, but thats not the problem, because even when the polybar is killed, the problem continues.
INXI result below. Note, while checking HTOP when running programs, the CPU gets overloading upon opening ANY new program, as in, past 100% percent, which it didnt on Gnome. I have no idea the cause of this, it just doesn't seem to make sense to me as Gnome carries so much more overhead.

System:
  Host: hackerman01 Kernel: 4.19.45-1-MANJARO x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc 
  v: 8.3.0 Desktop: i3 4.16.1 info: polybar dm: LightDM 1.28.0 
  Distro: Manjaro Linux 
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: Apple product: MacBookPro12,1 v: 1.0 serial: <filter> 
  Chassis: type: 9 v: Mac-E43C1C25D4880AD6 serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: Apple model: Mac-E43C1C25D4880AD6 v: MacBookPro12,1 serial: <filter> 
  UEFI: Apple v: 180.0.0.0.0 date: 09/17/2018 
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 60.8 Wh condition: 60.8/74.8 Wh (81%) volts: 12.9/11.4 
  model: DP bq20z451 type: Li-ion serial: N/A status: Full cycles: 873 
CPU:
  Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i5-5257U bits: 64 type: MT MCP 
  arch: Broadwell rev: 4 L2 cache: 3072 KiB 
  flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx 
  bogomips: 21606 
  Speed: 800 MHz min/max: 500/3100 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 800 2: 800 
  3: 800 4: 800 
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Iris Graphics 6100 vendor: Apple driver: i915 v: kernel 
  bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:162b 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: intel unloaded: modesetting 
  alternate: fbdev,vesa resolution: 2560x1600~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Iris 6100 (Broadwell GT3) 
  v: 4.5 Mesa 19.0.4 compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Broadwell-U Audio vendor: Apple driver: snd_hda_intel 
  v: kernel bus ID: 00:03.0 chip ID: 8086:160c 
  Device-2: Intel Wildcat Point-LP High Definition Audio 
  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 chip ID: 8086:9ca0 
  Device-3: Broadcom and subsidiaries 720p FaceTime HD Camera driver: bdc-pci 
  bus ID: 02:00.0 chip ID: 14e4:1570 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.45-1-MANJARO 
Network:
  Device-1: Broadcom and subsidiaries BCM43602 802.11ac Wireless LAN SoC 
  vendor: Apple driver: brcmfmac v: kernel port: efa0 bus ID: 03:00.0 
  chip ID: 14e4:43ba 
  IF: wlp3s0 state: up mac: <filter> 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 113.00 GiB used: 30.85 GiB (27.3%) 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Apple model: SSD SM0128G size: 113.00 GiB 
  speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: JA0Q scheme: GPT 
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 101.77 GiB used: 30.85 GiB (30.3%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2 
  ID-2: swap-1 size: 8.80 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda3 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 54.0 C mobo: N/A 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Info:
  Processes: 160 Uptime: 6m Memory: 7.69 GiB used: 1.55 GiB (20.1%) 
  Init: systemd v: 242 Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 Shell: bash v: 5.0.7 
  running in: terminator inxi: 3.0.34 

might be something changed in the latest kernel update. try a different kernel.
sudo mhwd-kernel -i linux50

reboot and select the 5.0 kernel from grub advanced menu.

also, you can try killing compton and see if thats causing issues.
killall compton

if killing compton fixes it, delete compton.conf and reinstall compton (or just replace it with a clean compton.conf)
rm -rf ~/.config/compton.conf
sudo pacman -S compton

also test the drives performance with something like gsmartcontrol , maybe it's on it's way out.

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I have never ran compton, this macbook has a terrible old battery so I wanted to avoid anything like that (same reason I didnt use kde, if it looks like crap without a compositor, I wont use it.) I will update you on the kernel

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Switching kernel DID NOT work. I still have no idea what triggered this change, because i3 is relatively light and I have changed almost nothign (except instaling all of nerd fonts, but I dont think thats the trigger, mostly because everyone tells me so)

test the drive itself and if it's fine, do you have a manjaro usb laying around you could live boot and see if the behavior is the same?

Couldnt read the drive at all, because its an apple drive I am guessing, It could be the problem, but I am not sure. I will test manjaro live usb performance

I cant test the drive after all, I gave it to one of my friends to use when installing on his pc. I (personally) dont think its hardware caused because of the sudden onset. I have tried rebooting into recovery mode and performance was better there, but not by much.

I tried resetting the pram and the smc (something that has worked on the past with MacBook pro performance problems) and now it bootloops from the grub screen no matter what kernel version I use. Well. ■■■■■

Fixed the bootloop, performance is still slow af despite going through the standard "running linux on a macbook" perormance hurdles.

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i have zero experience with mbp's. make a new live usb if possible.

[quote="gregoryStarr, post:10, topic:90286"]
now it bootloops from the grub screen no matter what kernel version I use. Well. ■■■■■
[/quote]
check/reset bios and make sure the needed settings are there after resetting pram/smc. make sure the correct drive is the first boot device

nm, you got it

Fixed bootloop, performance issues still here, despite going through my checlist of linux fixes that have helped performance problems in the past.

updated to latest bios?

you could try removing the fonts you added, a longshot but i've seen font do some silly shyte to a desktop, for example, an iso i tested a while back had a "yi" (chinese language/font) font package installed even though the font and language was in english it changed the layout of the desktop as if everything were mirrored (reversed)

pamac:
image

besides that, you should post logs to see whats going wrong

What type of logs should I post? I cant figure out how ot uninstall all nerd fonts, they dont show up in my font directory.

journalctl -b0 -p4
cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep -E "(EE)|(WW)|error|failed|Time"
sudo dmesg -Hk | grep -Ei "warn|acpi|error|failed" 

also check entropy, if the output of this command

cat /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail

is close to or lower than 1000, enable haveged

sudo systemctl enable haveged --now

I ■■■■■■ up installing drivers and now the mpb boots to grub and no matter what I do, jonmatter what option I pick, it boots into a black screen than reboots back into grub. How do I boot one into a terminal

which drivers? how?

at grub, press E instead of enter, find the the word "quiet" and replace it with the number 3, or just add 3 to the end of that line. then CTRL+X to boot

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No such word, anywhere

Drivers were Intel u code microchip drivers as I read online that Intel drivers can cause slow performance

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