I think the only two options are Firefox and Brave. Adjust the settings for privacy, as long as it does not disrupt the user’s browsing experience.
I use Firefox because hardware video acceleration…
I think the only two options are Firefox and Brave. Adjust the settings for privacy, as long as it does not disrupt the user’s browsing experience.
I use Firefox because hardware video acceleration…
Most people have their favourite(s); in your case it seems to be the Brave browser; in my case, both Firefox and Vivaldi.
Your claim that Vivaldi’s Sync functionality does not work, is inaccurate. Vivaldi’s Sync works as expected, and has never failed this user.
If you are experiencing difficulty with it, I’d suggest it’s likely rooted in your configuration. Cheers.
I’m for either keeping Firefox (potentially adjusted to disable ppa by default), or by providing the user with a choice at installation (and enough context to make an informed one).
That being said - while I certainly don’t like how PPA got introduced through the backdoor, I don’t think the idea behind it is all bad. Let’s face it, many popular “free” services are ultimately financed through advertising (even though most of us will probably block it). The alternative in most cases would be paying directly, which is even less popular. If PPA leads to less privacy-intrusive ads, it might be worth considering.
I’ll let you die alone on that hill
Whatever. I’m just against bringing out torches and pitchforks quite so easily, even though that’s the modern way of doing it apparently.
I don’t have pitchforks, I voted to keep FF, but to disable all tracking by default (user can OPT-IN no problem with that).
While it’s uncertain whether Firefox weighs the same as a duck, it certainly needs to float; seeking fairer ways to stay afloat is at least commendable.
However, I do think that:
…is perhaps a little unfair, especially considering the move is documented and publicised; with an obvious path to disabling the option, should anyone prefer.
It doesn’t help, you have to die one death…
I’m in favor of something tried and tested, firefox (with patch), chromium (ungoogled-chromium), at least you know what you have.
A new browser - even if it is highly acclaimed - should first prove itself, otherwise it will be a shot in the dark.
I am in favor of offering a choice during installation, as is done with Libreoffice. This also gives users the option of not having to install a browser in advance, which saves the work of having to uninstall an unwanted browser after installation.
I’d agree with that sentiment, if you were referring to the Ladybird browser, which hasn’t even left the stables yet, so to speak.
Vivaldi, on the other hand, while still new – that is, if one considers 9.5 years to be new – has nonetheless proven a viable contender to the browser market.
So much so, I might add, that a decision was made – by someone, at sometime (2021) – to include Vivaldi in the official Manjaro repositories. I’m sure that must not have been a casual, ill-informed decision itself.
It occurs to me that many may simply have a knee-jerk reaction to any browser suggestion which is outside their personal experience. Here is the Wikipedia article for those genuinely interested in how Vivaldi came into existence:
It’s a package inherited from Arch. Manjaro includes it because Arch includes it.
And it still remains, and even as the default browser, on Manjaro Cinnamon – albeit a community rather than official Manjaro release – as from the year mentioned.
Yes but Manjaro did decide to make it the default browser for cinnamon.
No, the Cinnamon Edition is not an official Manjaro release. It’s a community release. Therefore, the maintainer of that release gets to decide what packages are included by default.
I vote for this
I’d say LibreWolf, it’s a fork of Firefox with the spyware removed and and unlike Vivaldi, it’s open source
Translated with Bing translator
Good morning
I worked in the call center for 12 years in technical support (hardware and software) (Windows, Compaq, Dell, HP, Palm and many others).
There it was easy for me to listen to people on the phone, listen to their mistakes and problems and give satisfied answers.
That’s why I’ve always resisted doing e-mail support, because I don’t like writing, because of the misunderstandings, misinterpretations.
Here again I must not have expressed myself correctly.
I know what I want to write, but my fingers can’t follow my thoughts so fast, so I correct my writing and my thought is nice and forgotten again and out comes what you get to read here.
I had meant and written that with Brave Browser, Microsoft Edge and Firefox, I can send my tabs to other devices to continue reading them there.
Example, I read something on my small notebook or (Handy) mobile phone, and send it to my Manjaro PC or other partition Windows installation.
Or in the evening I play on my Windows partition, my Baller games and read an interesting article,
like here right now and send me this tab to my browser on the Manjaro installation.
When I start in the morning, my PC boots it into the Manjaro installation first
and when I open Brave, Firefox or Edge, then after the sync the sent tab is opened,
that doesn’t work with Vivaldi,
because it doesn’t have the function of sending the tabs.
That’s what I meant by the sync Sorry for the misunderstandings
Greeting
Tony
Moderator edit: removed the gratuitous and superfluous German.
The option to Sync open tabs does exist in Vivaldi, but you’re right that it doesn’t seem towork as expected. There are some differences, when compard with Firefox.
Firefox will open a tab automatically, whereas with Vivaldi this doesn’t happen. If you open the last tab in history, however, that seems to open the tab that was open in the alternate OS; but there is no automatic handling.
Interesting, as I seem to recall it working previously. Then again, I typically do not use the feature; instead, I like to close all tabs and the browser, before shutting down or rebooting; and then if I wanted a particular tab, just choose it from history.
Firefox also has Send Tab to device while Vivaldi has the Cast option; neither of these are related to Sync, however, and the receiving OS and browser must be physically connected at the same time; this is not ideal for multibooters, like us.
ladybird is next to nothing at the moment - perhaps it will be.
I have voted to keep Firefox as the changes you need to perform are minimal.
vivaldi is the goto browser - and having it as default will most certainly make Manjaro standout from crowd.
But I had to choose - and since firefox is a defacto standard - why not keep it ?
Any of the mogrified versions of either Firefox or Chromium will put another burden on the team and could make Manjaro lack behind if any issues turned up.
If Manjaro should distinguish itself - adopting Vivaldi as the officially chosen default browser - that will really make Manjaro take a stand.
That said - I would fully accept Vivaldi as default browser - I am already using it.
While I see he appeal to add a browser selection to the installer, I’d like to remind everyone why there is a browser pre-installed in the first place.
It’s different to an office-suite for the fact that while a majority of people might want an office program on there machine, many have no use for it. For a browser in comparison it’s safe to assume that almost everyone will have need of a browser on his machine and new users might even need one to look up resources on how to install/remove/do anything on their machine.
It’s not hard to remove a browser, or to install a new one. Everyone attempting to use an OS should figure that out within the first couple of hours.
The pre-installed browser does not need to be the best option for everyone, it just has to be a reasonable stable solution.
With that in mind I’m not a big fan of anything that is just a fork of an upstream project already providing a fully functional browser cuz it has some tweaking for some special needs.
I don’t see the justification to change much of anything here and really would consider the effect on new users switching from other OS to find a browser they at least heard of before. And the effort for our maintainers to build an maintain a special installer configuration or some hooked scripts to configure the applications default settings (and not tinker with the chosen settings of already installed instances).