Should we change the default browser with our next Manjaro release?

I don’t get why Ladybug is even worth considering right now?

It’s about a year till we will see what it will actually be. Right now it’s just a vision with a lot of promises. There is no way to criticize the implementation as we do on all the other browsers.

It sure sounds promising, but how much software products sounded promising and were hyped just to end up insignificant cuz of the flaws nobody thought about when everything was just a vague dream.

I will stay with Firefox and have my setting adjusted already.

I test some other browser as well and might switch at some point, but while I’m not happy with Mozillas opt-out move here I still see it as the best option for me.

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I don’t know… What I do not want to go back to is my early days using the (original) Opera browser and their Presto engine not working on so many mainstream websites. This Ladybird project, most likely will be Opera/Presto all over again.

I will stick with FF Nightly and all the telemetry, pocket, built-in plugins (features) etc. disabled

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For now I would stick to Firefox, but only if these horrendous privacy settings are disabled by default.
Maybe a selectable list of web browsers at install could be a good idea too (but that wouldn’t change the fact these privacy invading settings would be enabled by default, so I’m not sure).

For sure having a default browser in Manjaro stealing and sending your private browsing data and identifying you, whatever they could say about privacy (check the Lunduke video completely), is a big nono for me.

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I would recommend librewolf as well. But, see below… :wink: :point_down:


I’m using chromium as well, but there are two more privacy-focused alternatives… :point_down:

  • ungoogled-chromium
  • iridium

Both have the traditional look & feel of chromium, but they have been patched to circumvent all of Google’s spying.


Also, I must admit that I’m not really up to speed on things when it comes to browsers, but there is also a PKGBUILD for icecat-bin in the AUR, and that one’s sponsored by the GNU people, and thus more freedom/privacy-focused.

As yet another alternative, there’s also seamonkey-bin in the AUR, but then you get more than just a browser. It’s essentially the successor of the whole Netscape suite, so it also includes an alternative to thunderbird.

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Firefox has too many issues in the past, and I have abandoned it.

I’m using Vivaldi.
I like its UX and features.
But I dun like the lag and resources it consumed.

I would also recommend Chromium as alternative, but must cautious that it cannot sync bookmark across Google account.

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That is the point. The version that syncs is called Chrome :slight_smile:

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Well, if it must be Google bookmark, then must use Chrome.
If just need a cloud bookmark, Vivaldi can sync as well.

So it is a matter of personal trust and preference towards Google and Vivaldi.

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If all we’re looking for is alternatives, then let me suggest waterfox-bin, also in the AUR at the moment.

There’s also Garuda Linux’ firedragon-bin in the AUR. Along with many KDE customizations/integrations for it:

$ pamac search firedragon
firedragon-unsigned-extensions-bin  121.0.r1-1                               AUR
    FireDragon modified to allow installation of unsigned extensions
firedragon-unsigned-extensions  1:1.0.0-2                                    AUR
    [OBSELETE] FireDragon modified to allow installation of unsigned
    extensions
firedragon-extension-plasma-integration  1.9-1                               AUR
    KDE plasma browser integration extension for FireDragon
firedragon-bin  1:11.15.0-1.1                                                AUR
    Floorp fork build using custom branding and settings
firedragon-appmenu  120-1                                                    AUR
    metapackage - migrate to firedragon
firedragon  1:11.15.0-1.1                                                    AUR
    Floorp fork build using custom branding and settings

And there’s Floorp in the AUR, which Firedragon’s based on:

$ pamac search floorp
floorp-bin  11.15.0-1                                                        AUR
    Firefox-based web browser focused on performance and customizability
floorp  11.14.1-1                                                            AUR
    Firefox-based web browser focused on performance and customizability

Floorp itself is based on Firefox.

Floorp is a new Firefox based browser from Japan with excellent privacy & flexibility.

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First thank you @philm for leading to the awarness about this advertising company and this new feature, that caught me by surprise.

I look at Firefox regularly about new shady telemetry/spy functions and i heavily dislike the way where Mozilla is going with this opt-out functions.

It behaves like a old Windows OS, but still all this new spy features can be easily revoked and im happy about the about:config settings to reduce browser fingerprinting, disable useless new Features a.s.o.

All in all, Firefox is still my number one browser.

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manjaro has very good match with vivaldi thuogh firefox opens quicker (old machines expirience). by default vivaldi is not opening trash.promo atached pages and is most stable on manjaro (unlike on debians and windows)
i run it (as vell as firefox) on full kde with quad proc. pc. and on xfce4 with dual-celeron.atom laptop.

Hello,
What about Falkon (in extra) ?
I discovered it while having problem with FF after previous update (solved now : radeon → amdgpu). It seems quite light and correctly working.

with Firefox i can have arkenfox/user.js and all my addons,
i’ve been using it since it came out,and trust none of these companies,
so voting for FF.

maybe have a choice option in Calamares.

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I tried Falkon for a short while a couple of years ago but ended up dumping it pretty quickly. I memory serves, its certificate store was problematic and I was getting SSL security alerts for a lot of sites (which were OK in Firefox). As I recall it had pretty limited functionality as well, when compared to Firefox or Chromium.

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FF has it faults, but I do use it.

That said, here is what I have done recently.

  1. In order to continue using Facebook in a more basic mode that allows messages I changed the user agent to an iPad. As expected I get weird messages about what browser I am using. But I am using FB the way I want not the way it wants. The love/hate continues. LOL.

  2. As I had already been using Dooble, and really like it for basic browsing, I am now using it even more: to pay bills, to access Google Drive and docs, etc. It is perfect as a second alternative browser and I recommend anyone to check it out.

for Manjaro I will also vote Librewolf and Vivaldi, but what the community chose will be ok, we can also install anything else afterwards… :smile:

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I see him more as the lesser evil …

This would be my suggestion as well. I used it for several years; only reason I don’t currently have it is I haven’t got round to reinstalling since upgrading the storage on this machine (the old HDD didn’t have enough space left to compile it).

Also supports the pre-Quantum addons, mods etc…

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When you have thousands of bookmarks, you understand why i prefer Vivaldi.

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Ok, I only have a little more than 800 bookmarks. But you probably have them all open at the same time …

Firefox is okay but over the years it made many irritating changes which I tolerated but eventually left for Vivaldi. Firefox gets uninstalled.

I think for new installs a choose your browser page would be a good idea.