I have updated the bios of my PC but because of qraphics card issue, I cant access it. I get a white screen instead. Weirdly I can still get to my desktop after that but there is no internet connection.
I have ordered a new graphics card. If I were to get a brand new motherboard as well would I still have to update the bios again of this new board? Im so tempted to buy a new motherboard now and pay if it means sparing me more PC problems.
Thanks for the advice.
Apologies, I currently have no access to my system. Posting from my phone.
Normally not, as the vendor would have to make sure that the new motherboard passes over the counter with the latest (stable) firmware.
However, depending on how long the motherboard remains stocked at the shop’s warehouse before it gets sold, there is of course always a chance that newer firmware was released in the meantime between the board arriving at the shop and the day it is sold to a customer.
Also, it is possible that the motherboard vendor releases a firmware update in beta-grade after the motherboards are shipped out to the shops, and that this beta-grade firmware would be remedying a serious bug in the original firmware.
That all said, it is fair to expect a new motherboard to come with the latest firmware.
With it, you’re able to search for specific hardware and determine whether or not it’s compatible with Linux – before you pay out any money.
I’ll mention that even though a mainboard might be fully compatible according to the database, there can potentially be other issues such as setting the right BIOS configuration for your mainboard and other hardware.
If you find one that seems compatible, always follow up with searching for other possible complications experienced by users with the same board. Some, for example might have had difficulty with a certain GPU, despite the mainboard being compatible with Linux.
Always check for the worst-case-scenario (and hope you don’t find any).
Yes, eventually you might need to, but the BIOS is usually fairly fresh with a new mainboard, subject of course to caveats mentioned by @Aragorn .
As Aragorn said: A new mainboard should come with the latest firmware version, but double checking does no harm.
First of all: Did you check, double check and triple check that you have used the correct firmware for your current mainboard, when updating the firmware?
Since there is no network either, I suspect that either
a) the firmware file was corrupt
b) you accidentally used the wrong firmware file.
c) the new firmware needs to load save defaults first, before it can work properly.
From my personal experience:
On an ASUS MB, updating the UEFI BIOS took a long time on first reboot and prompted for a reset of the TPM data (if I remember correctly) and sent me to the BIOS in order to check / verify the settings.
But I did not experience any problem like a white screen, neither with Nvidia GT710 nor with AMD on-chip graphics.
On a Gigabyte MB, the board would boot up like normal and I was able to enter the BIOS without hassle. (Also with Nvidia GT710)
Speculation - but what I would try in such situation:
Wouldn’t it be an option in that case, where the Bios update either didn’t help or made things even worse,
to (just) check the available (from the manufacturer) Bios firmware version options again
and choose and flash a slightly older one?
the one that you had, for instance?
… at some point it did work - but then there was some problem -
and it wasn’t fixed by the update you flashed -
is what I’m assuming to be the scenario here.
The problem you tried to address with the update might not have been a problem with the firmware …
ps
re a new motherboard comes one of my favorite (silly but true) quotes to mind:
NEW is an acronym for Never Ever Worked
(but in that case you can simply give it back - you just had all the work and time invested at this point)
… and make sure to search your mainboard manufacturers support website to triple check if that mainboard, your CPU and your graphics card are known to work together nicely.
I have ordered Nvidia GT-1030 based on nikgnomic’s recommendations in a previous topic. This should be Linux friendly.
As for a possible new motherboard, it would be close to what I have now, keeping it budget. If I could find such a thing, it would probably be not the the latest. So there may be an issue with how old is. My current bios is PRO B660M-E DDR4, bios build date 2021.
What ever I find, I can use the Linux Hardware Database now, so thank you for that.
Cant say for sure where my bios update went wrong. When I took it into the store, he reseated the graphics card and the bios appeared! At home when I tried to input my old settings eg boot mode back to UEFI it went white screen again, no internet.
Hoping the new card will solve all, but there may be firmware issues so thinking of just getting a new board.
This MSI board has the capability for on-chip graphics - does your CPU have on-chip graphics?
If so, the new firmware might want to display bootup messages on the built-in HDMI port via the on-chip graphics and therefore show only white on the PCIe graphics card.
We can’t usually make specific product recommendations here, so I won’t.
However, as you’re considering an older mainboard, I might suggest one of a Z490 series, if you can still find one (preferably unused).
The brand really doesn’t matter – it could be ASUS, Gigabyte, MSI; the list goes on – I use an ASUS Prime Z490-A personally, coupled with medium range AMD (RX-580/590) dGPU. It does what I need it to, and quite admirably.
Edit:- Of course, a mainboard also must support the CPU – unless you plan on buying a new CPU as well, your mainboard choices become rather limited.
As if by magic.
I’ll note that it’s possible you might need to do that again. No matter how carefully a computer might be transported, it’s always possible for cards/connectors to be shaken loose. I imagine you’d like to exhaust all possibilities before parting with hard-earned cash.
One last thing: when I updated the bios, before it went white, I saw new settings. I left settings that werent there before at default, but was unsure about the power management and CPU cooling settings in Overclocking. Eg Long and Short Duration Power Limits were lower at the default 9f the new version bios and CPU Lite Load went from Mode 12 to Mode 18.
If I do have to reupdate the bios, how do I handle these changes? Leave them at new default? Try to put the back to what I had? But maybe a new bios brings temperature changes / new overclocking considerations the CPU?
He did tighten it thoroughly, so I think there’s a fault with the card. I can still see artefacts. Anyway the upgrade to a better card is long overdue.
You might check the mainboard manual and see if it has a feature to short the BIOS. This would arguably reset the BIOS to default settings and allow you to start over.
I’d normally advise not to stray too far from the defaults until you’re absolutely sure what that new functionality will do, and how it affects your hardware.
Certainly SecureBoot is one item to make sure is disabled – Manjaro will not boot otherwise.
XY Problem detected: It seems you asked about your attempted solution (involving a BIOS update) rather than your actual problem (regarding a graphics card). This leads to enormous amounts of wasted time and energy, both on the part of people asking for help, and on the part of those providing help.
As far as BIOS updates in general: With my Asrock board, there were only certain BIOS versions I could update to with an older CPU. The newer versions were explicitly only for newer CPUs. After I added a newer one, I was able to update accordingly. I have never had an issue with a BIOS update. Perhaps there was a similar mismatch in your case?
sorry for not wanting to read through all this thread,but before making big purchases,i’d suggest trying to install Windows first and see it everything works fine.
then go on trouble shoot what might be a Linux specific issue.
