Random freezes 2

Ever since the bigger update last Monday (Feb 3rd) which elevated my Manjaro Stable to kernel 6.12.11-1 I am getting random freezes.
It is reproducible when I open Gimp and try to open several images as layers. But it has happened on other occasions, too. But this one is reproducible.
Can I help here in any way?

Yes

Please provide inxi -zv8 so we can try to help you.

random is not reproducible

Either it is reproducible or it is not :slight_smile:

Without system info it is impossible to advise

Here’s my inxi -zv8

System:
  Kernel: 6.12.11-1-MANJARO arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 14.2.1
    clocksource: hpet avail: acpi_pm
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.12-x86_64
    root=UUID=ad0f1960-e767-4d1a-9cd4-71b8a46d626a rw quiet splash
    resume=UUID=36a1ac66-df39-43af-9e99-b54e9d9c0c2a udev.log_priority=3
    video=DP-4:2360x1640@30
  Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 6.2.5 tk: Qt v: N/A wm: kwin_wayland dm: SDDM
    Distro: Manjaro base: Arch Linux
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: HP product: HP ProDesk 405 G4 Desktop Mini
    v: DBXEnabled serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 3 serial: <filter>
  Mobo: HP model: 8626 v: KBC Version 07.D1.00 serial: <filter>
    part-nu: 6QS11EA#ABD uuid: f32d2f13-ce4a-f1db-0f21-64dcbb3ce735 UEFI: HP
    v: R24 Ver. 02.19.01 date: 07/28/2022
Battery:
  Message: No system battery data found. Is one present?
Memory:
  System RAM: total: 16 GiB available: 14.57 GiB used: 3.29 GiB (22.6%)
  Array-1: capacity: 32 GiB slots: 2 modules: 2 EC: None
    max-module-size: 16 GiB note: est.
  Device-1: ChannelB DIMM0 type: DDR4 detail: synchronous unbuffered
    (unregistered) size: 8 GiB speed: 2667 MT/s volts: curr: 1.2 min: 1.2
    max: 1.2 width (bits): data: 64 total: 64 manufacturer: Hynix/Hyundai
    part-no: HMA81GS6JJR8N-VK serial: <filter>
  Device-2: ChannelA DIMM0 type: DDR4 detail: synchronous unbuffered
    (unregistered) size: 8 GiB speed: 2667 MT/s volts: curr: 1.2 min: 1.2
    max: 1.2 width (bits): data: 64 total: 64 manufacturer: Hynix/Hyundai
    part-no: HMA81GS6JJR8N-VK serial: <filter>
PCI Slots:
  Slot: 2 type: PCIe gen: 3 status: available info: M.2 length: other
    volts: 3.3 bus-ID: 02:05.0
  Slot: 3 type: PCIe gen: 3 status: in use info: M.2 length: long volts: 3.3
    bus-ID: 00:01.6 children: 1: 09:00.0 class-ID: 0108 type: mass-storage
CPU:
  Info: model: AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 2400GE w/ Radeon Vega Graphics socket: AM4
    bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen level: v3 note: check built: 2017-19
    process: GF 14nm family: 0x17 (23) model-id: 0x11 (17) stepping: 0
    microcode: 0x8101016
  Topology: cpus: 1x dies: 1 clusters: 1 cores: 4 threads: 8 tpc: 2
    smt: enabled cache: L1: 384 KiB desc: d-4x32 KiB; i-4x64 KiB L2: 2 MiB
    desc: 4x512 KiB L3: 4 MiB desc: 1x4 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 2300 min/max: 1600/3200 boost: enabled
    base/boost: 3200/3800 scaling: driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: schedutil
    volts: 1.4 V ext-clock: 100 MHz cores: 1: 2300 2: 2300 3: 2300 4: 2300
    5: 2300 6: 2300 7: 2300 8: 2300 bogomips: 51123
  Flags: 3dnowprefetch abm adx aes aperfmperf apic arat avic avx avx2 bmi1
    bmi2 bpext clflush clflushopt clzero cmov cmp_legacy constant_tsc cpb
    cpuid cr8_legacy cx16 cx8 de decodeassists extapic extd_apicid f16c
    flushbyasid fma fpu fsgsbase fxsr fxsr_opt ht hw_pstate ibpb irperf
    lahf_lm lbrv lm mca mce misalignsse mmx mmxext monitor movbe msr mtrr
    mwaitx nonstop_tsc nopl npt nrip_save nx osvw overflow_recov pae pat
    pausefilter pclmulqdq pdpe1gb perfctr_core perfctr_llc perfctr_nb
    pfthreshold pge pni popcnt pse pse36 rapl rdrand rdseed rdtscp rep_good
    sep sev sev_es sha_ni skinit smap smca smep ssbd sse sse2 sse4_1 sse4_2
    sse4a ssse3 succor svm svm_lock syscall tce topoext tsc tsc_scale
    v_vmsave_vmload vgif vmcb_clean vme vmmcall wdt xgetbv1 xsave xsavec
    xsaveerptr xsaveopt
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed mitigation: untrained return thunk; SMT vulnerable
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow mitigation: Safe RET
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via
    prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer
    sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines; IBPB: conditional; STIBP:
    disabled; RSB filling; PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected; BHI: Not affected
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Raven Ridge [Radeon Vega Series
    / Radeon Mobile Series] vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: amdgpu v: kernel
    arch: GCN-5 code: Vega process: GF 14nm built: 2017-20 pcie: gen: 3
    speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 ports: active: DP-2,DP-4 empty: DP-1,DP-3
    bus-ID: 0a:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:15dd class-ID: 0300 temp: 49.0 C
  Device-2: Logitech C920 PRO HD Webcam driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo
    type: USB rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 bus-ID: 4-4.4:5
    chip-ID: 046d:08e5 class-ID: 0102 serial: <filter>
  Display: unspecified server: X.Org v: 24.1.4 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.4
    compositor: kwin_wayland driver: X: loaded: amdgpu unloaded: modesetting
    alternate: fbdev,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu display-ID: :1 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 5760x1600 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 1524x423mm (60.00x16.65")
    s-diag: 1582mm (62.27") monitors: <missing: xrandr>
  Monitor-1: DP-2 model: Acer CB382CUR serial: <filter> built: 2022
    res: 3840x1600 dpi: 111 gamma: 1.2 chroma: red: x: 0.678 y: 0.310 green:
    x: 0.271 y: 0.671 blue: x: 0.153 y: 0.055 white: x: 0.314 y: 0.329
    size: 880x367mm (34.65x14.45") diag: 953mm (37.5") modes: 3840x1600,
    2560x1080, 1920x1200, 1920x1080, 1600x1200, 1680x1050, 1280x1024,
    1440x900, 1280x960, 1280x800, 1152x864, 1280x720, 1024x768, 832x624,
    800x600, 720x576, 720x480, 640x480, 720x400
  EDID-Warnings: 1: parse_edid: unhandled CEA mode 90
  Monitor-2: DP-4 model: DP1080P60 built: 2018 res: 1920x1080 dpi: 94
    gamma: 1.2 chroma: red: x: 0.651 y: 0.337 green: x: 0.282 y: 0.604 blue:
    x: 0.141 y: 0.071 white: x: 0.314 y: 0.329 size: 480x270mm (18.9x10.63")
    diag: 595mm (23.4") ratio: 16:9 modes: 1920x1080, 3840x2160, 2560x1600,
    2360x1640, 2560x1440, 1920x1200, 1680x1050, 1600x900, 1280x1024,
    1440x900, 1280x800, 1152x864, 1280x720, 1024x768, 800x600, 640x480
  API: EGL v: 1.5 hw: drv: amd radeonsi platforms: device: 0 drv: radeonsi
    device: 1 drv: swrast gbm: drv: radeonsi surfaceless: drv: radeonsi x11:
    drv: radeonsi inactive: wayland
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: amd mesa v: 24.3.4-arch1.1
    glx-v: 1.4 direct-render: yes renderer: AMD Radeon Vega 11 Graphics
    (radeonsi raven LLVM 19.1.7 DRM 3.59 6.12.11-1-MANJARO)
    device-ID: 1002:15dd memory: 1000 MiB unified: no
  API: Vulkan v: 1.4.303 layers: 1 device: 0 type: integrated-gpu name: AMD
    Radeon Vega 11 Graphics (RADV RAVEN) driver: N/A device-ID: 1002:15dd
    surfaces: xcb,xlib
  Info: Tools: api: clinfo, eglinfo, glxinfo, vulkaninfo
    de: kscreen-console,kscreen-doctor wl: wayland-info x11: xdpyinfo,xprop
Audio:
  Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Raven/Raven2/Fenghuang HDMI/DP
    Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 3
    speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 0a:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:15de class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 17h/19h/1ah HD Audio
    vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 3
    speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 0a:00.6 chip-ID: 1022:15e3 class-ID: 0403
  Device-3: Logitech C920 PRO HD Webcam driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo
    type: USB rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 bus-ID: 4-4.4:5
    chip-ID: 046d:08e5 class-ID: 0102 serial: <filter>
  API: ALSA v: k6.12.11-1-MANJARO status: kernel-api with: aoss
    type: oss-emulator tools: alsactl,alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: JACK v: 1.9.22 status: off tools: N/A
  Server-2: PipeWire v: 1.2.7 status: n/a (root, process) with:
    1: pipewire-pulse status: active 2: wireplumber status: active
    3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8211/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
    vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s
    lanes: 1 port: 3300 bus-ID: 05:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200
  IF: eno1 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
  IP v4: <filter> type: dynamic noprefixroute scope: global
    broadcast: <filter>
  IP v6: <filter> type: dynamic noprefixroute scope: global
  IP v6: <filter> type: noprefixroute scope: link
  IF-ID-1: br-e485322613b8 state: down mac: <filter>
  IP v4: <filter> scope: global broadcast: <filter>
  IF-ID-2: docker0 state: down mac: <filter>
  IP v4: <filter> scope: global broadcast: <filter>
  Info: services: NetworkManager, sshd, systemd-timesyncd
  WAN IP: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Cambridge Silicon Radio Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode) driver: btusb
    v: 0.8 type: USB rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 1.1
    bus-ID: 4-4.3.3:8 chip-ID: 0a12:0001 class-ID: e001
  Report: btmgmt ID: hci0 rfk-id: 0 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 4.0
    lmp-v: 6 status: discoverable: no pairing: no class-ID: 6c0104
Logical:
  Message: No logical block device data found.
RAID:
  Message: No RAID data found.
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 536.53 GiB used: 89.31 GiB (16.6%)
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Intel model: SSDPEKNW512G8H
    size: 476.94 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s
    lanes: 4 tech: SSD serial: <filter> fw-rev: HPS0 temp: 38.9 C scheme: GPT
  SMART: yes health: PASSED on: 1y 283d 12h cycles: 676
    read-units: 568,932,697 [291 TB] written-units: 12,231,539 [6.26 TB]
  ID-2: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Orico model: UFSD-C size: 59.59 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: USB rev: 3.2 spd: 5 Gb/s
    lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-1x1 tech: N/A serial: <filter> fw-rev: 0303
    scheme: GPT
  SMART Message: A mandatory SMART command failed. Various possible causes.
  Message: No optical or floppy data found.
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 460.61 GiB size: 452.31 GiB (98.20%)
    used: 89.28 GiB (19.7%) fs: ext4 block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
    maj-min: 259:2 label: N/A uuid: ad0f1960-e767-4d1a-9cd4-71b8a46d626a
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 300 MiB size: 299.4 MiB (99.80%)
    used: 32.3 MiB (10.8%) fs: vfat block-size: 512 B dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1
    maj-min: 259:1 label: N/A uuid: 488B-D95B
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 60 (default) cache-pressure: 100 (default) zswap: no
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 16.03 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%)
    priority: -2 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p3 maj-min: 259:3 label: swap
    uuid: 36a1ac66-df39-43af-9e99-b54e9d9c0c2a
Unmounted:
  ID-1: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1 size: 59.55 GiB fs: exfat label: Ventoy
    uuid: C467-C6C9
  ID-2: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2 size: 32 MiB fs: vfat label: VTOYEFI
    uuid: 223C-F3F8
USB:
  Hub-1: 1-0:1 info: hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 10 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-2: 2-0:1 info: full speed or root hub ports: 1 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-3: 3-0:1 info: super-speed hub ports: 4 rev: 3.1
    speed: 10 Gb/s (1.16 GiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-2x1 chip-ID: 1d6b:0003
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-4: 4-0:1 info: hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 4 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-5: 4-4:2 info: Realtek RTS5411 Hub ports: 5 rev: 2.1
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 0bda:5411
    class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 4-4.1:3 info: DigitalPersona Fingerprint Reader
    type: <vendor specific> driver: N/A interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0
    speed: 12 Mb/s (1.4 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 power: 200mA
    chip-ID: 05ba:000a class-ID: 0000 serial: <filter>
  Hub-6: 4-4.3:4 info: Realtek RTS5411 Hub ports: 4 rev: 2.1
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 0bda:5411
    class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 4-4.3.1:6 info: Logitech Keyboard K120 type: keyboard,HID
    driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 2 rev: 1.1
    speed: 1.5 Mb/s (183 KiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 1.0 power: 90mA
    chip-ID: 046d:c31c class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: 4-4.3.2:7 info: HP Optical Mouse [672662-001] type: mouse
    driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0
    speed: 1.5 Mb/s (183 KiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 1.0 power: 100mA
    chip-ID: 03f0:094a class-ID: 0301
  Device-3: 4-4.3.3:8 info: Cambridge Silicon Radio Bluetooth Dongle (HCI
    mode) type: bluetooth driver: btusb interfaces: 2 rev: 2.0
    speed: 12 Mb/s (1.4 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 chip-ID: 0a12:0001
    class-ID: e001
  Device-4: 4-4.4:5 info: Logitech C920 PRO HD Webcam type: video,audio
    driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo interfaces: 4 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 power: 500mA
    chip-ID: 046d:08e5 class-ID: 0102 serial: <filter>
  Device-5: 4-4.5:9 info: Realtek BillBoard Device type: billboard
    driver: N/A interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1
    mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 0bda:5418 class-ID: 1100
  Hub-7: 5-0:1 info: super-speed hub ports: 4 rev: 3.1
    speed: 10 Gb/s (1.16 GiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-2x1 chip-ID: 1d6b:0003
    class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 5-3:2 info: JMicron / USA JMS567 SATA 6Gb/s bridge
    type: mass storage driver: usb-storage interfaces: 1 rev: 3.2
    speed: 5 Gb/s (596.0 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-1x1 power: 896mA
    chip-ID: 152d:0562 class-ID: 0806 serial: <filter>
  Hub-8: 5-4:3 info: Realtek Hub ports: 4 rev: 3.2
    speed: 5 Gb/s (596.0 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-1x1 chip-ID: 0bda:0411
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-9: 5-4.3:4 info: Realtek Hub ports: 4 rev: 3.0
    speed: 5 Gb/s (596.0 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-1x1 chip-ID: 0bda:0411
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-10: 6-0:1 info: hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 1 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-11: 7-0:1 info: super-speed hub ports: 1 rev: 3.1
    speed: 10 Gb/s (1.16 GiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-2x1 chip-ID: 1d6b:0003
    class-ID: 0900
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 48.5 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 48.0 C
  Fan Speeds (rpm): N/A
Repos:
  Packages: pm: pacman pkgs: 1556 libs: 388 tools: pamac pm: rpm pkgs: 0
    pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
  Active pacman repo servers in: /etc/pacman.conf
    1: https://download.sublimetext.com/arch/stable/x86_64
  Active pacman repo servers in: /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
    1: https://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
    2: http://ftp.rz.tu-bs.de/pub/mirror/manjaro.org/repos/stable/$repo/$arch
    3: https://mirror.alpix.eu/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
    4: https://manjaro.kurdy.org/stable/$repo/$arch
    5: https://mirror.23m.com/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
    6: http://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
Processes:
  CPU top: 5 of 313
  1: cpu: 100% command: ps pid: 3211 mem: 3.98 MiB (0.0%)
  2: cpu: 50.3% command: firefox pid: 2490 mem: 668.3 MiB (4.4%)
  3: cpu: 14.9% command: firefox pid: 2842 mem: 241.0 MiB (1.6%)
  4: cpu: 10.4% command: kwin_wayland pid: 1101 mem: 298.4 MiB (2.0%)
  5: cpu: 7.1% command: plasmashell pid: 1377 mem: 519.2 MiB (3.4%)
  Memory top: 5 of 313
  1: mem: 668.3 MiB (4.4%) command: firefox pid: 2490 cpu: 50.3%
  2: mem: 519.2 MiB (3.4%) command: plasmashell pid: 1377 cpu: 7.1%
  3: mem: 298.4 MiB (2.0%) command: kwin_wayland pid: 1101 cpu: 10.4%
  4: mem: 241.0 MiB (1.6%) command: firefox pid: 2842 cpu: 14.9%
  5: mem: 188.9 MiB (1.2%) command: firefox pid: 2758 cpu: 1.8%
Info:
  Processes: 313 Power: uptime: 3m states: freeze,mem,disk suspend: deep
    avail: s2idle wakeups: 0 hibernate: platform avail: shutdown, reboot,
    suspend, test_resume image: 5.8 GiB services: org_kde_powerdevil,
    power-profiles-daemon, upowerd Init: systemd v: 257 default: graphical
    tool: systemctl
  Compilers: clang: 19.1.7 gcc: 14.2.1 Shell: Sudo (sudo) v: 1.9.16p2
    default: Bash v: 5.2.37 running-in: konsole inxi: 3.3.37

As you also have an AMD Radeon Vega Graphics, these random freezes might be caused by an Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and AMD Vega Graphics, as described in this thread Issues with Mesa 24.3.x and amdgpu Vega graphics / Pacman & Package Upgrade Issues / Arch Linux Forums.
Based on latest news this issue is hopefully gone with Kernel 6.12.17-1-lts and mesa 25.0.1.

Just a quick note to address a common misunderstanding when an issue is said to be reproducible;

An issue must generally be reproducable by others for it to be useful for troubleshooting purposes. :eyes:

If you think about that in context, every issue you might have is likely to be reproducible (for you); but, unless others can also reproduce an issue, it’s increasingly difficult to confirm a cause.

You might already be aware of this; others, maybe not; so this note is equally for anyone who might have made assumptions when reproducing an issue is spoken of.

Regards.