Problem with starting the system, stuck in screen

so we probably need to downgrade …
do you have a timeshift backup?

no I don’t have any. Will answer something about it in a couple minutes.

What’s the problem in here, btw?

I’m asking it bc we don’t have time to install manjaro every week.

the problem is that we dont know that the problem is, there is nothing in logs … and there were others with the same issues as you have, but they had nvidia … and downgrading kernel and nvidia resolved the issue …
so post also output from:
pamac list -qm

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mm there’s no output for it

ok so downgrade the kernel:

pacman -U linux515-5.15.59-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst linux515-headers-5.15.59-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst

then:
exit
reboot and hopefully it will work

any errors from the command post here

oh i just remembered i made a few days ago a change in kernels stuff for using OBS virtual camera, once I couldn’t install v4l2loopback-utils; also, what’s happening with files after i downgrade the kernel?

i had a problem that lookalike this one:

you installed kernel headers and we are downgrading those too … nothing will happen to your files …post any errors from the downgrading command…

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loading packages...
error: 'linux515-5.15.59-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst': could not find or read package
error: 'linux515-headers-5.15.59-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst': could not find or read package

are you chrooted?

try this:

pacman -U /var/cache/pacman/pkg/linux515-5.15.59-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst linux515-headers-5.15.59-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
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loading packages...
warning: downgrading package linux515 (5.15.60-1 => 5.15.59-1)
error: 'linux515-headers-5.15.59-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst': could not find or read package

and only kernel:
pacman -U /var/cache/pacman/pkg/linux515-5.15.59-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst

we’re still stuck on this

_

edit:
i have another computer with same manjaro installed, only I don’t use it or update it very often. should I use it for comparing something? any command i could do for comparing?

so chroot again, and run this command:
cat /var/log/pacman.log | grep upgrade
and copy all lines from this date: 2022-08-14
we need to downgrade some more stuff - video drivers and aslo light dm if it was upgraded

edit: no there would be nothing of help in the another computer, it looks like you are affected with the issue mentioned above…

Edit: or you can use this command:
cat /var/log/pacman.log | grep upgrade | grep 2022-08-14

[2022-08-14T16:37:32-0300] [ALPM] upgraded util-linux-libs (2.38-1 -> 2.38.1-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:32-0300] [ALPM] upgraded libevent (2.1.12-1 -> 2.1.12-2)
[2022-08-14T16:37:32-0300] [ALPM] upgraded apparmor (3.0.6-1 -> 3.0.7-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:32-0300] [ALPM] upgraded gcab (1.4-2 -> 1.5-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:32-0300] [ALPM] upgraded systemd-libs (251.3-1 -> 251.4-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:32-0300] [ALPM] upgraded gdk-pixbuf2 (2.42.8-1 -> 2.42.9-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:33-0300] [ALPM] upgraded libglvnd (1.4.0-2 -> 1.4.0-3)
[2022-08-14T16:37:33-0300] [ALPM] upgraded mesa (22.1.4-1 -> 22.1.6-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:33-0300] [ALPM] upgraded util-linux (2.38-1 -> 2.38.1-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:33-0300] [ALPM] upgraded sqlite (3.39.1-1 -> 3.39.2-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:33-0300] [ALPM] upgraded nettle (3.8-1 -> 3.8.1-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:33-0300] [ALPM] upgraded gnutls (3.7.6-1 -> 3.7.7-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:33-0300] [ALPM] upgraded glib-networking (1:2.72.1-1 -> 1:2.72.2-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:33-0300] [ALPM] upgraded tracker3 (3.3.2-1 -> 3.3.3-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:34-0300] [ALPM] upgraded systemd (251.3-1 -> 251.4-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:34-0300] [ALPM] upgraded appstream-glib (0.8.0-1 -> 0.8.1-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:34-0300] [ALPM] upgraded binutils (2.38-7 -> 2.39-2)
[2022-08-14T16:37:34-0300] [ALPM] upgraded bluez (5.64-2 -> 5.65-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:34-0300] [ALPM] upgraded bluez-libs (5.64-2 -> 5.65-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:35-0300] [ALPM] upgraded cpupower (5.18-1 -> 5.19-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:35-0300] [ALPM] upgraded nspr (4.34-1 -> 4.34.1-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:35-0300] [ALPM] upgraded cups-filters (1.28.15-1 -> 1.28.15-2)
[2022-08-14T16:37:35-0300] [ALPM] upgraded dkms (3.0.5-2 -> 3.0.6-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:35-0300] [ALPM] upgraded double-conversion (3.2.0-1 -> 3.2.1-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:35-0300] [ALPM] upgraded geocode-glib (3.26.3-1 -> 3.26.4-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:35-0300] [ALPM] upgraded gnome-desktop-common (1:42.3-1 -> 1:42.4-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:35-0300] [ALPM] upgraded gnome-desktop (1:42.3-1 -> 1:42.4-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:35-0300] [ALPM] upgraded gnome-desktop-4 (1:42.3-1 -> 1:42.4-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:35-0300] [ALPM] upgraded libwebp (1.2.3-1 -> 1.2.4-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:35-0300] [ALPM] upgraded graphviz (5.0.0-1 -> 5.0.0-2)
[2022-08-14T16:37:35-0300] [ALPM] upgraded gsm (1.0.21-1 -> 1.0.22-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:35-0300] [ALPM] upgraded hwinfo (21.82-1 -> 22.0-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:35-0300] [ALPM] upgraded intel-ucode (20220510-1 -> 20220809-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:35-0300] [ALPM] upgraded lib2geom (1.2-1 -> 1.2-2)
[2022-08-14T16:37:35-0300] [ALPM] upgraded lib32-mesa (22.1.4-1 -> 22.1.6-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:35-0300] [ALPM] upgraded lib32-libglvnd (1.4.0-2 -> 1.4.0-3)
[2022-08-14T16:37:35-0300] [ALPM] upgraded lib32-libva-mesa-driver (22.1.4-1 -> 22.1.6-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:35-0300] [ALPM] upgraded lib32-mesa-vdpau (22.1.4-1 -> 22.1.6-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:35-0300] [ALPM] upgraded lib32-nspr (4.34-1 -> 4.34.1-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:35-0300] [ALPM] upgraded lib32-systemd (251.3-1 -> 251.4-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:35-0300] [ALPM] upgraded lib32-util-linux (2.38-1 -> 2.38.1-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:35-0300] [ALPM] upgraded lib32-vulkan-intel (22.1.4-1 -> 22.1.6-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:36-0300] [ALPM] upgraded lib32-vulkan-radeon (22.1.4-1 -> 22.1.6-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:36-0300] [ALPM] upgraded libadwaita (1:1.1.3-1 -> 1:1.1.4-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:36-0300] [ALPM] upgraded libbluray (1.3.1-1 -> 1.3.2-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:36-0300] [ALPM] upgraded libevdev (1.12.1-1 -> 1.13.0-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:36-0300] [ALPM] upgraded libimagequant (4.0.0-1 -> 4.0.1-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:36-0300] [ALPM] upgraded libnfs (5.0.1-2 -> 5.0.2-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:36-0300] [ALPM] upgraded libnm (1.38.2-2 -> 1.38.4-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:36-0300] [ALPM] upgraded libva-mesa-driver (22.1.4-1 -> 22.1.6-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:36-0300] [ALPM] upgraded libwacom (2.3.0-1 -> 2.4.0-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:36-0300] [ALPM] upgraded libxcvt (0.1.1-1 -> 0.1.2-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:36-0300] [ALPM] upgraded lightdm (1:1.30.0-4 -> 1:1.32.0-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:42-0300] [ALPM] upgraded linux419-headers (4.19.254-2 -> 4.19.255-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:43-0300] [ALPM] upgraded linux515 (5.15.59-1 -> 5.15.60-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:58-0300] [ALPM] upgraded linux515-headers (5.15.59-1 -> 5.15.60-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:58-0300] [ALPM] upgraded luajit (2.1.0.beta3.r431.g5677985d-1 -> 2.1.0.beta3.r439.g633f265f-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:58-0300] [ALPM] upgraded manjaro-settings-manager (0.5.7-5 -> 0.5.7-6)
[2022-08-14T16:37:58-0300] [ALPM] upgraded manjaro-settings-manager-notifier (0.5.7-5 -> 0.5.7-6)
[2022-08-14T16:37:58-0300] [ALPM] upgraded mesa-vdpau (22.1.4-1 -> 22.1.6-1)
[2022-08-14T16:37:58-0300] [ALPM] upgraded mhwd-db (0.6.5-21 -> 0.6.5-22)
[2022-08-14T16:37:59-0300] [ALPM] upgraded mhwd (0.6.5-2 -> 0.6.5-22)
[2022-08-14T16:37:59-0300] [ALPM] upgraded nano (6.3-1 -> 6.4-1)
[2022-08-14T16:38:01-0300] [ALPM] upgraded wpa_supplicant (2:2.10-4 -> 2:2.10-5)
[2022-08-14T16:38:02-0300] [ALPM] upgraded networkmanager (1.38.2-2 -> 1.38.4-1)
[2022-08-14T16:38:41-0300] [ALPM] upgraded papirus-icon-theme (20220710-1 -> 20220808-1)
[2022-08-14T16:38:42-0300] [ALPM] upgraded python-trove-classifiers (2022.7.22-1 -> 2022.8.7-1)
[2022-08-14T16:38:42-0300] [ALPM] upgraded rsync (3.2.4-1 -> 3.2.5pre2-1)
[2022-08-14T16:38:42-0300] [ALPM] upgraded smbclient (4.16.4-2 -> 4.16.4-3)
[2022-08-14T16:38:43-0300] [ALPM] upgraded samba (4.16.4-2 -> 4.16.4-3)
[2022-08-14T16:38:46-0300] [ALPM] upgraded snapd (2.57-2 -> 2.57.1-1)
[2022-08-14T16:38:46-0300] [ALPM] upgraded systemd-sysvcompat (251.3-1 -> 251.4-1)
[2022-08-14T16:38:46-0300] [ALPM] upgraded tlp (1.5.0-4 -> 1.5.0-5)
[2022-08-14T16:38:46-0300] [ALPM] upgraded unzip (6.0-18 -> 6.0-19)
[2022-08-14T16:38:46-0300] [ALPM] upgraded vulkan-intel (22.1.4-1 -> 22.1.6-1)
[2022-08-14T16:38:46-0300] [ALPM] upgraded vulkan-radeon (22.1.4-1 -> 22.1.6-1)
[2022-08-14T16:38:46-0300] [ALPM] upgraded wpebackend-fdo (1.12.0-2 -> 1.12.1-1)
[2022-08-14T16:38:48-0300] [ALPM] upgraded webkit2gtk (2.36.5-2 -> 2.36.6-1)
[2022-08-14T16:39:00-0300] [ALPM] upgraded webkit2gtk-4.1 (2.36.5-2 -> 2.36.6-1)
[2022-08-14T16:39:01-0300] [ALPM] upgraded xdg-user-dirs (0.17-3 -> 0.18-1)
[2022-08-14T16:39:01-0300] [ALPM] upgraded xfce4-screenshooter (1.9.10-2 -> 1.9.11-1)
[2022-08-14T16:39:01-0300] [ALPM] upgraded zsh-completions (0.34.0-1 -> 0.34.0-2)

edit:
i only remember changing dkms stuff, the same day i installed kernel-headers for installing v4l2loopback-utils.

edit2:
you see it stills showing:

pgraded linux515-headers (5.15.59-1 -> 5.15.60-1)

didn’t we change that a few minutes before?

no we only downgraded the kernel not the headers because of the error, try downgrading it:

pacman -U /var/cache/pacman/pkg/linux515-headers-5.15.59-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst

and output from:
pacman -Qs linux419
ls -hl /var/cache/pacman/pkg | grep 2022-08-14

downgrade=done.

1:

local/linux419-headers 4.19.255-1
    Header files and scripts for building modules for Linux419 kernel

2:

no output.

ok, so you have installed headers for a non existing kernel, so remove it first:
pacman -R linux419-headers
then post output from:

ls -hl /var/cache/pacman/pkg | grep lightdm
ls -hl /var/cache/pacman/pkg | grep mesa

kernel=removed.

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  240K Aug 11 11:01 lightdm-1:1.32.0-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   566 Aug 11 11:01 lightdm-1:1.32.0-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   90K Mar  6 15:28 lightdm-gtk-greeter-1:2.0.8-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   310 Mar  6 15:28 lightdm-gtk-greeter-1:2.0.8-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  161K Dec 12  2021 lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings-1.2.2-7-any.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   566 Dec 12  2021 lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings-1.2.2-7-any.pkg.tar.zst.sig
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  3.3M Jul 27 14:40 lib32-libva-mesa-driver-22.1.4-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   141 Jul 27 14:40 lib32-libva-mesa-driver-22.1.4-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  3.3M Aug 11 11:01 lib32-libva-mesa-driver-22.1.6-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   310 Aug 11 11:01 lib32-libva-mesa-driver-22.1.6-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   12M Jul 27 14:40 lib32-mesa-22.1.4-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   141 Jul 27 14:40 lib32-mesa-22.1.4-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   12M Aug 11 11:01 lib32-mesa-22.1.6-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   310 Aug 11 11:01 lib32-mesa-22.1.6-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  3.5M Jul 21 05:53 lib32-mesa-vdpau-22.1.3-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  3.5M Jul 27 14:40 lib32-mesa-vdpau-22.1.4-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   141 Jul 27 14:40 lib32-mesa-vdpau-22.1.4-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  3.5M Aug 11 11:01 lib32-mesa-vdpau-22.1.6-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   310 Aug 11 11:01 lib32-mesa-vdpau-22.1.6-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  3.2M Jul 27 14:40 libva-mesa-driver-22.1.4-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   141 Jul 27 14:40 libva-mesa-driver-22.1.4-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  3.2M Aug 11 11:01 libva-mesa-driver-22.1.6-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   310 Aug 11 11:01 libva-mesa-driver-22.1.6-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   13M Jul 27 14:40 mesa-22.1.4-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   141 Jul 27 14:40 mesa-22.1.4-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   13M Aug 11 11:01 mesa-22.1.6-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   310 Aug 11 11:01 mesa-22.1.6-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  3.4M Jul 21 05:53 mesa-vdpau-22.1.3-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  3.4M Jul 27 14:40 mesa-vdpau-22.1.4-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   141 Jul 27 14:40 mesa-vdpau-22.1.4-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  3.3M Aug 11 11:01 mesa-vdpau-22.1.6-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   310 Aug 11 11:01 mesa-vdpau-22.1.6-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig

there is no longer a package to downgrade the lightdm, so downgrade this:

pacman -U /var/cache/pacman/pkg/lib32-libva-mesa-driver-22.1.4-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
pacman -U /var/cache/pacman/pkg/lib32-mesa-22.1.4-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
pacman -U /var/cache/pacman/pkg/lib32-mesa-vdpau-22.1.4-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
pacman -U /var/cache/pacman/pkg/libva-mesa-driver-22.1.4-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
pacman -U /var/cache/pacman/pkg/mesa-22.1.4-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
pacman -U /var/cache/pacman/pkg/mesa-vdpau-22.1.4-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst

any error post here
if there are none, reboot and hopefully it will work