Pamac vs pacman for upgrading

That’s just habit, then. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Also, don’t use that if you can help it. I recommend:

pamac upgrade --enable-downgrade --aur --devel

…because pamac is Manjaro’s own. It just takes care of more things. Yes, I know I’ll get some hate, or at least disagreeements regarding that, but that’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

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I suggest you run Pamac before doing pacman -Syyu to see which updates are out there then you can decide from that if you want to do your updates then or wait til you have free time to deal with any possible breakage.

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Thanks. That pamac thing might be interesting. Is that the way you run for updates?

Thanks, @Locutus. Can you help me with the full syntac, like pamac --and-someting-else.
Also, I’m heading to read about pamac because I’ve never had to resort to it so far. pacman would do the job for me, and now I’m beginning to wonder about the difference between them.

It is, indeed, yes.

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pamac uses libalpm, AFAIK anyway. So that’s why both pacman and pamac works. The difference is that pamac just takes care of many things, things the might have required user intervention with pacman. But either one can do the same. Use what you’re comfortable with.

My advice, try the pamac option and use it if it works better for you. If not, feel free to use pacman again.

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This works as a simple alias for major upgrades…
alias up=pamac upgrade --enable-downgrade --aur --devel`

TBH I usually do Topgrade every once in a while - fine for small updates and it’s pretty comprehensive, but if the upgrade is big, I switch to pamac.

Also, today’s Top Tip is to include this in your .bashrc or .zsh


#-------- Global Alias {{{
globalias() {
  if [[ $LBUFFER =~ '[a-zA-Z0-9]+$' ]]; then
    zle _expand_alias
    zle expand-word
  fi
  zle self-insert
}
zle -N globalias
bindkey " " globalias                 # space key to expand globalalias
# bindkey "^ " magic-space            # control-space to bypass completion
bindkey "^[[Z" magic-space            # shift-tab to bypass completion
bindkey -M isearch " " magic-space    # normal space during searches

#}}}

After entering an alias, pressing space makes it enter the original text so you can actually remember WTF it was in the first place :wink:

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I’ve also got it alias’d:

upgrade='pamac upgrade --enable-downgrade --aur --devel && kdialog --ok-label='\''OK'\'' --msgbox='\''The system has been successfully upgraded.'\'

Along with a popup. You can even make it let you know if there is an error:

upgrade='pamac upgrade --enable-downgrade --aur --devel && kdialog --ok-label='\''OK'\'' --msgbox='\''The system has been successfully upgraded.'\' || kdialog --ok-label='\''OK'\'' --msgbox='\''An error occurred while upgrading the system.'\'

Don’t need that function for that. Just run:

$ alias <aliasName>

Where <aliasName> is the alias you wish to check.

For example:

$ alias upgrade
upgrade='pamac upgrade --enable-downgrade --aur --devel && kdialog --ok-label='\''OK'\'' --msgbox='\''The system has been successfully upgraded.'\'

:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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It’s not for checking - it’s for simply typing out the alias every time you use it…

Also it’s good for things you don’t have the mental capacity to cope with, recently some h265 stuff that wouldn’t work in Plex and I always get muddled with ffmpeg sentences.

So we have this:
Start typing…


Hit space…

Then edit if need be and bingo.

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OK, now that’s handy. I completely misunderstood you.

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