Pamac takes 30 seconds to load

As the subject says: excessive load time for pamac. Used to be a lot quicker but been slow for a two or three weeks now.

pamac version: 11.6.0-1

Must be pamac with gtk4, which uses more RAM and GPU Acceleration. Switch back to pamac with gtk3 on non-gnome environments.

pamac install pamac-gtk3

Let me guess. You have xdg-desktop-portal-gnome installed but don’t use gnome.


Assuming he’s using XFCE, the choice seems limited to xdg-desktop-portal-gnome at the present time. Does xdg-desktop-portal-xfce exist, or should it exist? is a worthwhile question to pose.

Is it slow via your terminal also? If it is, maybe you need to choose a faster mirror. This can help even with Pamac (GUI). Beyond that, frankly, I have no idea.

Is there actually a pamac-gtk4? – I found pamac-gtk3 easily, but no gtk4 version; unless mine was a lazy search, which I can be guilty of at times. :zzz:

The standard package is pamac-gtk which is GTK4.

Is it always 30 seconds and exactly 30 seconds?

Can you run pamac-manager from the terminal, it will show some messages what’s loading.

For me, it takes also a few seconds during the “refreshing flathub appstream data” progress.

I see, yes, of course! :man_facepalming:. Then the comments from @megavolt seem worth investigating seeing that XFCE is still a derivative of (built with) GTK3 at the time of writing. Cheers.

The proper package would be xdg-desktop-portal-gtk.

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…and you’d be correct, I suppose. I copy/pasted xdg-desktop-portal-gnome from the @ben75 post for convenience, without giving much thought to it. Cheers.


  • that’s installed, yes. (not the git nor the noprompt)

Is it slow via your terminal

  • good point. No, two or three seconds for “pamac checkupdates”.

Is there actually a pamac-gtk4

  • There are two pamac packages installed: pamac-cli and pamac-gtk (GTK4). Also libpamac and libpamac-flatpack-plugin.

always 30 seconds

  • not exactly but always lengthy.


  • same-ish time, no messages while loading.


  • installed.

Then install xdg-desktop-portal-gtk instead.

The ‘-gnome’ portion was effectively a typo; @dmt has given the likely correct version xdg-desktop-portal-gtk – which, as far as I can determine, is available only as a flatpak installation at this time.

Additionally, scroll up to the @megavolt comments about using pamac-gtk3 instead of gtk4 (XFCE uses GTK3 heavily):


It’s the first one in the list, so when people install something that requires it they often end up with this, as they don’t check which they need.


pacman -Ss xdg-desktop-portal

install xdg-desktop-portal-gtk

  • it already is.

You can’t install both. So which one is it?

Also, pamac on the terminal and the GUI application are two different and independent programs.

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An aha moment – it’s in extra-testing as we speak: xdg-desktop-portal-gtk 1.14.1-3.

xdg-desktop-portal-gnome and xdg-desktop-portal-gtk are both installed.

Then uninstall xdg-desktop-portal-gnome.

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Uninstall xdg-desktop-portal-gnome and reboot.

See if you still experience the issue. If so, uninstall pamac-gtk:

sudo pacman -R pamac-gtk

…and install pamac-gtk3;

sudo pacman -S pamac-gtk3

…then see if that changes things.

Note:- It’s probably not wise to attempt using ‘pamac’ to uninstall/install ‘pamac’, so make sure you use ‘pacman’ as shown (or install ‘yay’ if needed, which uses similar syntax to ‘pacman’, in the terminal, only without having to use ‘sudo’). Cheers.

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pamac and pamac-manager are two different and independent programs. You can safely use pamac to uninstall the GUI.