Pamac GUI - Authentication window still disappears

Good Morning,

this morning came Update for Thunderbird and Signal desktop.

Pamac GUI gtk4 - Authentication window didn’t disappeared.

So for me the problem was Solved by @linux-aarhus by replacing Pamac gt3 to gtk4 version.

Which should I mark as Solution?

Mine now or yours @linux-aarhus ?

Wish you well
Tony

Hey Ho, good morning.

It happens again this morning by the Brave Browser update.

I click on apply and while I am typing my Password or only the window, it disappears.

So the Problem is not solved.

Sorry

Which Info more can I provide to solve this issue?

pamac.conf
### Pamac configuration file

## When removing a package, also remove those dependencies
## that are not required by other packages (recurse option):
RemoveUnrequiredDeps

## How often to check for updates, value in hours (0 to disable):
RefreshPeriod = 3

## When no update is available, hide the tray icon:
NoUpdateHideIcon

## When applying updates, enable packages downgrade:
#EnableDowngrade

## When installing packages, do not check for updates:
#SimpleInstall

## Allow Pamac to search and install packages from AUR:
EnableAUR

## Keep built packages from AUR in cache after installation:
#KeepBuiltPkgs

## When AUR support is enabled check for updates from AUR:
CheckAURUpdates

## When check updates from AUR support is enabled check for vcs updates:
#CheckAURVCSUpdates

## AUR build directory:
BuildDirectory = /tmp

## Number of versions of each package to keep when cleaning the packages cache:
KeepNumPackages = 1

## Remove only the versions of uninstalled packages when cleaning the packages cache:
#OnlyRmUninstalled

## Download updates in background:
DownloadUpdates

## Offline upgrade:
#OfflineUpgrade

## Maximum Parallel Downloads:
MaxParallelDownloads = 10

#CheckFlatpakUpdates

#EnableSnap

#EnableFlatpak
pacman.conf
#
# /etc/pacman.conf
#
# See the pacman.conf(5) manpage for option and repository directives

#
# GENERAL OPTIONS
#
[options]
# The following paths are commented out with their default values listed.
# If you wish to use different paths, uncomment and update the paths.
#RootDir     = /
#DBPath      = /var/lib/pacman/
CacheDir = /var/cache/pacman/pkg/
#LogFile     = /var/log/pacman.log
#GPGDir      = /etc/pacman.d/gnupg/
#HookDir     = /etc/pacman.d/hooks/
HoldPkg      = pacman glibc manjaro-system
#XferCommand = /usr/bin/curl -L -C - -f -o %o %u
#XferCommand = /usr/bin/wget --passive-ftp -c -O %o %u
#CleanMethod = KeepInstalled
#UseDelta    = 0.7
Architecture = auto

#IgnorePkg   =
#IgnorePkg   =
#IgnoreGroup =

#NoUpgrade   =
#NoExtract   =

# Misc options
#UseSyslog
Color
ILoveCandy
#NoProgressBar
# We cannot check disk space from within a chroot environment
CheckSpace
#VerbosePkgLists
ParallelDownloads = 4
DownloadUser = alpm
#DisableSandbox


# By default, pacman accepts packages signed by keys that its local keyring
# trusts (see pacman-key and its man page), as well as unsigned packages.
SigLevel    = Required DatabaseOptional
LocalFileSigLevel = Optional
#RemoteFileSigLevel = Required

# NOTE: You must run `pacman-key --init` before first using pacman; the local
# keyring can then be populated with the keys of all official Arch and Manjaro Linux
# packagers with `pacman-key --populate archlinux manjaro`.

#
# REPOSITORIES
#   - can be defined here or included from another file
#   - pacman will search repositories in the order defined here
#   - local/custom mirrors can be added here or in separate files
#   - repositories listed first will take precedence when packages
#     have identical names, regardless of version number
#   - URLs will have $repo replaced by the name of the current repo
#   - URLs will have $arch replaced by the name of the architecture
#
# Repository entries are of the format:
#       [repo-name]
#       Server = ServerName
#       Include = IncludePath
#
# The header [repo-name] is crucial - it must be present and
# uncommented to enable the repo.
#

# The testing repositories are disabled by default. To enable, uncomment the
# repo name header and Include lines. You can add preferred servers immediately
# after the header, and they will be used before the default mirrors.

[core]
SigLevel = PackageRequired
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

[extra]
SigLevel = PackageRequired
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

# If you want to run 32 bit applications on your x86_64 system,
# enable the multilib repositories as required here.

[multilib]
SigLevel = PackageRequired
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

# An example of a custom package repository.  See the pacman manpage for
# tips on creating your own repositories.
#[custom]
#SigLevel = Optional TrustAll
#Server = file:///home/custompkgs

Thanks
Tony

:person_shrugging: :man_shrugging: :woman_shrugging:

It is impossible to deduce what causes this when it is not reproducable.

For the past week or so - for the purpose of verifying, hopefully catching the issue - I have used a pamac configured to

  • check for updates every 1h
  • check for AUR updates

When the notification appears - as I use unstable branch - the notification comes very often

  • I click the notification
  • pamac window loads and populates the updates pane
  • click Apply
  • provide authentication (expecting the dialog to disappear, it never does)
  • system updates
  • AUR packages rebuild
  • done

Just now I synced my system - using the above steps - sync of, amongst others, kernel - with a rebuild of visual-studio-code-bin.

Irrelevant log of transactions for 2024-11-02T09:27:19+0100
[2024-11-02T09:27:19+0100] [PAMAC] synchronizing package lists
[2024-11-02T09:27:37+0100] [ALPM] running '60-mkinitcpio-remove.hook'...
[2024-11-02T09:27:37+0100] [ALPM] running '71-dkms-remove.hook'...
[2024-11-02T09:27:38+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> dkms remove --no-depmod v4l2loopback/0.13.2 -k 6.11.5-1-MANJARO
[2024-11-02T09:27:39+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> dkms remove --no-depmod vboxhost/7.1.4_OSE -k 6.11.5-1-MANJARO
[2024-11-02T09:27:39+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> dkms remove --no-depmod vmware-workstation/17.6.1_24319023 -k 6.11.5-1-MANJARO
[2024-11-02T09:27:39+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> depmod 6.11.5-1-MANJARO
[2024-11-02T09:27:42+0100] [ALPM] transaction started
[2024-11-02T09:27:42+0100] [ALPM] upgraded gtk-update-icon-cache (1:4.16.3-1 -> 1:4.16.5-1)
[2024-11-02T09:27:42+0100] [ALPM] upgraded gtk4 (1:4.16.3-1 -> 1:4.16.5-1)
[2024-11-02T09:27:42+0100] [ALPM] upgraded lib32-mpg123 (1.32.7-1 -> 1.32.8-1)
[2024-11-02T09:27:42+0100] [ALPM] upgraded libheif (1.18.2-2 -> 1.19.1-1)
[2024-11-02T09:27:43+0100] [ALPM] upgraded linux611 (6.11.5-1 -> 6.11.6-1)
[2024-11-02T09:27:44+0100] [ALPM] upgraded linux611-headers (6.11.5-1 -> 6.11.6-1)
[2024-11-02T09:27:44+0100] [ALPM] upgraded noto-fonts (1:24.9.1-1 -> 1:2024.11.01-1)
[2024-11-02T09:27:44+0100] [ALPM] upgraded python-dulwich (0.22.2-1 -> 0.22.4-1)
[2024-11-02T09:27:44+0100] [ALPM] transaction completed
[2024-11-02T09:27:44+0100] [ALPM] running '30-systemd-update.hook'...
[2024-11-02T09:27:44+0100] [ALPM] running '60-depmod.hook'...
[2024-11-02T09:27:45+0100] [ALPM] running '70-dkms-install.hook'...
[2024-11-02T09:27:45+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> dkms install --no-depmod vmware-workstation/17.6.1_24319023 -k 6.11.6-1-MANJARO
[2024-11-02T09:27:48+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> dkms install --no-depmod vboxhost/7.1.4_OSE -k 6.11.6-1-MANJARO
[2024-11-02T09:27:51+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> dkms install --no-depmod v4l2loopback/0.13.2 -k 6.11.6-1-MANJARO
[2024-11-02T09:27:53+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> depmod 6.11.6-1-MANJARO
[2024-11-02T09:27:56+0100] [ALPM] running '90-mkinitcpio-install.hook'...
[2024-11-02T09:27:57+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> Building image from preset: /etc/mkinitcpio.d/linux611.preset: 'default'
[2024-11-02T09:27:57+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> Using default configuration file: '/etc/mkinitcpio.conf'
[2024-11-02T09:27:57+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> -k /boot/vmlinuz-6.11-x86_64 -g /boot/initramfs-6.11-x86_64.img
[2024-11-02T09:27:57+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> Starting build: '6.11.6-1-MANJARO'
[2024-11-02T09:27:57+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> Running build hook: [systemd]
[2024-11-02T09:27:57+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> Running build hook: [udev]
[2024-11-02T09:27:58+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> Running build hook: [autodetect]
[2024-11-02T09:27:58+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> Running build hook: [microcode]
[2024-11-02T09:27:58+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> Running build hook: [kms]
[2024-11-02T09:27:59+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> Running build hook: [modconf]
[2024-11-02T09:27:59+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> Running build hook: [block]
[2024-11-02T09:28:00+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> WARNING: Possibly missing firmware for module: 'xhci_pci'
[2024-11-02T09:28:00+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> Running build hook: [keyboard]
[2024-11-02T09:28:00+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> Running build hook: [keymap]
[2024-11-02T09:28:00+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> Running build hook: [consolefont]
[2024-11-02T09:28:00+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> Running build hook: [plymouth]
[2024-11-02T09:28:01+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> Running build hook: [resume]
[2024-11-02T09:28:01+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> Running build hook: [filesystems]
[2024-11-02T09:28:01+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> Running build hook: [fsck]
[2024-11-02T09:28:01+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> Generating module dependencies
[2024-11-02T09:28:01+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> Creating zstd-compressed initcpio image: '/boot/initramfs-6.11-x86_64.img'
[2024-11-02T09:28:01+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> Early uncompressed CPIO image generation successful
[2024-11-02T09:28:01+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> Initcpio image generation successful
[2024-11-02T09:28:01+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> Building image from preset: /etc/mkinitcpio.d/linux611.preset: 'fallback'
[2024-11-02T09:28:01+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> Using default configuration file: '/etc/mkinitcpio.conf'
[2024-11-02T09:28:01+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> -k /boot/vmlinuz-6.11-x86_64 -g /boot/initramfs-6.11-x86_64-fallback.img -S autodetect
[2024-11-02T09:28:02+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> Starting build: '6.11.6-1-MANJARO'
[2024-11-02T09:28:02+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> Running build hook: [systemd]
[2024-11-02T09:28:02+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> Running build hook: [udev]
[2024-11-02T09:28:02+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> Running build hook: [microcode]
[2024-11-02T09:28:02+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> Running build hook: [kms]
[2024-11-02T09:28:04+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> WARNING: Possibly missing firmware for module: 'ast'
[2024-11-02T09:28:06+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> Running build hook: [modconf]
[2024-11-02T09:28:06+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> Running build hook: [block]
[2024-11-02T09:28:07+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> WARNING: Possibly missing firmware for module: 'qed'
[2024-11-02T09:28:07+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> WARNING: Possibly missing firmware for module: 'qla2xxx'
[2024-11-02T09:28:07+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> WARNING: Possibly missing firmware for module: 'wd719x'
[2024-11-02T09:28:07+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> WARNING: Possibly missing firmware for module: 'bfa'
[2024-11-02T09:28:07+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> WARNING: Possibly missing firmware for module: 'qla1280'
[2024-11-02T09:28:07+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> WARNING: Possibly missing firmware for module: 'aic94xx'
[2024-11-02T09:28:07+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> WARNING: Possibly missing firmware for module: 'xhci_pci'
[2024-11-02T09:28:08+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> Running build hook: [keyboard]
[2024-11-02T09:28:09+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> Running build hook: [keymap]
[2024-11-02T09:28:09+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> Running build hook: [consolefont]
[2024-11-02T09:28:09+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> Running build hook: [plymouth]
[2024-11-02T09:28:10+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> Running build hook: [resume]
[2024-11-02T09:28:10+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> Running build hook: [filesystems]
[2024-11-02T09:28:11+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> WARNING: Possibly missing '/bin/sh' for script: /usr/bin/mount.glusterfs
[2024-11-02T09:28:11+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> Running build hook: [fsck]
[2024-11-02T09:28:11+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> WARNING: Possibly missing '/bin/sh' for script: /usr/bin/fsck.btrfs
[2024-11-02T09:28:11+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> WARNING: Possibly missing '/bin/sh' for script: /usr/bin/fsck.xfs
[2024-11-02T09:28:12+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> Generating module dependencies
[2024-11-02T09:28:12+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> Creating zstd-compressed initcpio image: '/boot/initramfs-6.11-x86_64-fallback.img'
[2024-11-02T09:28:13+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> Early uncompressed CPIO image generation successful
[2024-11-02T09:28:13+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> Initcpio image generation successful
[2024-11-02T09:28:13+0100] [ALPM] running '99-update-grub.hook'...
[2024-11-02T09:28:13+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] Generating grub configuration file ...
[2024-11-02T09:28:14+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] Found theme: /usr/share/grub/themes/manjaro/theme.txt
[2024-11-02T09:28:14+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-6.11-x86_64
[2024-11-02T09:28:14+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] Found initrd image: /boot/intel-ucode.img /boot/amd-ucode.img /boot/initramfs-6.11-x86_64.img
[2024-11-02T09:28:14+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] Found initrd fallback image: /boot/initramfs-6.11-x86_64-fallback.img
[2024-11-02T09:28:14+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] Warning: os-prober will not be executed to detect other bootable partitions.
[2024-11-02T09:28:14+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] Systems on them will not be added to the GRUB boot configuration.
[2024-11-02T09:28:14+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] Check GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER documentation entry.
[2024-11-02T09:28:14+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] Adding boot menu entry for UEFI Firmware Settings ...
[2024-11-02T09:28:14+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+/memtest.bin
[2024-11-02T09:28:14+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] /usr/bin/grub-probe: warning: unknown device type nvme1n1.
[2024-11-02T09:28:14+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] Found memtest86+ EFI image: /boot/memtest86+/memtest.efi
[2024-11-02T09:28:14+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] /usr/bin/grub-probe: warning: unknown device type nvme1n1.
[2024-11-02T09:28:14+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] done
[2024-11-02T09:28:14+0100] [ALPM] running 'fontconfig.hook'...
[2024-11-02T09:28:14+0100] [ALPM] running 'fontconfig-32.hook'...
[2024-11-02T09:28:14+0100] [ALPM] running 'gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders.hook'...
[2024-11-02T09:28:14+0100] [ALPM] running 'glib-compile-schemas.hook'...
[2024-11-02T09:28:15+0100] [ALPM] running 'gtk4-querymodules.hook'...
[2024-11-02T09:28:15+0100] [ALPM] running 'xorg-mkfontscale.hook'...
[2024-11-02T09:28:32+0100] [ALPM] transaction started
[2024-11-02T09:28:32+0100] [ALPM] upgraded visual-studio-code-bin (1.95.0-1 -> 1.95.1-1)
[2024-11-02T09:28:32+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] tput: No value for $TERM and no -T specified
[2024-11-02T09:28:32+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] tput: No value for $TERM and no -T specified
[2024-11-02T09:28:32+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] tput: No value for $TERM and no -T specified
[2024-11-02T09:28:32+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] tput: No value for $TERM and no -T specified
[2024-11-02T09:28:32+0100] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> NOTE: Custom flags should be put directly in: ~/.config/code-flags.conf
[2024-11-02T09:28:32+0100] [ALPM] transaction completed
[2024-11-02T09:28:32+0100] [ALPM] running '30-systemd-update.hook'...
[2024-11-02T09:28:32+0100] [ALPM] running '30-update-mime-database.hook'...
[2024-11-02T09:28:32+0100] [ALPM] running 'update-desktop-database.hook'...

/etc/pamac.conf
 $ cat /etc/pamac.conf
### Pamac configuration file

## When removing a package, also remove those dependencies
## that are not required by other packages (recurse option):
#RemoveUnrequiredDeps

## How often to check for updates, value in hours (0 to disable):
RefreshPeriod = 1

## When no update is available, hide the tray icon:
#NoUpdateHideIcon

## When applying updates, enable packages downgrade:
#EnableDowngrade

## When installing packages, do not check for updates:
#SimpleInstall

## Allow Pamac to search and install packages from AUR:
EnableAUR

## Keep built packages from AUR in cache after installation:
#KeepBuiltPkgs

## When AUR support is enabled check for updates from AUR:
CheckAURUpdates

## When check updates from AUR support is enabled check for vcs updates:
#CheckAURVCSUpdates

## AUR build directory:
BuildDirectory = /var/tmp

## Number of versions of each package to keep when cleaning the packages cache:
KeepNumPackages = 1

## Remove only the versions of uninstalled packages when cleaning the packages cache:
#OnlyRmUninstalled

## Download updates in background:
#DownloadUpdates

## Offline upgrade:
#OfflineUpgrade

## Maximum Parallel Downloads:
MaxParallelDownloads = 4

#CheckFlatpakUpdates

#EnableSnap

#EnableFlatpak

:person_shrugging: :man_shrugging: :woman_shrugging:

I recommend setting in pamac.conf

  • MaxParallelDownloads to 4
  • comment DownloadUpdates
  • set BuildDirectory to /var/tmp.

Hii @linux-aarhus

That’s the way, uh-huh, uh-huh
I like it, uh-huh, uh-huh
Thatβ€²s the way, uh-huh, uh-huh
I do it, uh-huh, uh-huh

So it was this morning, as you do it but whit me several times the windows disappears reproducable, for me.

I mad the changes in

pamac.conf

AUR build directory:

BuildDirectory = /var/tmp

Download updates in background:

#DownloadUpdates

Maximum Parallel Downloads:

MaxParallelDownloads = 4

How can I make a video of it if it happens again?
Of the active Pamac window with the authentication window?
But not of the whole screen?
Or, if necessary, I make the Pamac window in full screen mode.
With a smartphone only if there is no other option.

Thanks :slight_smile:

No need - if you say it happens it happens - but I am suspecting it is a local issue.

The authorization is requested by Pamac but the handler is a system component - polkit - which is responsible for validating the request.

The request is sent to polkit using dbus communication and the result is sent back using the same channel.

I can only remember a few issues on the matter - this is indeed something local - not a widespread issue - and I have no idea where to look - but something is shorting the dbus communication on your system between pamac and polkit, making the authentication dialog disappear.

I have nothing - I understand it is annoying - I would be annoyed, perhaps even furious - but that changes nothing - so I would likely have used a :hammer_and_pick: by now :slight_smile:

//EDIT

:thinking:
I am speculating
As you have a periodic issue at random intervals

  • which applications is open - if any - when you click Apply in the pamac update pane
  • you could peek at active processes when it happens - using htop or SystemdGenie
  • have you made any changes to the authentication mechanisms - e.g. fingerprint or facial recognition
  • which process/application could possibly interfere with polkit
  • why is your system responding differently than my system (and most likely everyone else)
  • what can possibly disrupt the authorization process on your system
  • what changes have you made that - even remotely - could interfere with polkit

I have a test laptop running Manjaro Plasma on stable branch - I use it to verify issues.

[nix@nix-n14xwu ~]$ pacman --version

 .--.                  Pacman v7.0.0 - libalpm v15.0.0
/ _.-' .-.  .-.  .-.   Copyright (C) 2006-2024 Pacman Development Team
\  '-. '-'  '-'  '-'   Copyright (C) 2002-2006 Judd Vinet
 '--'
                       This program may be freely redistributed under
                       the terms of the GNU General Public License.

[nix@nix-n14xwu ~]$ pamac-manager --version
Pamac  10.6.0
[nix@nix-n14xwu ~]$ pamac --version
pamac-cli 11.6.0  -  libpamac 11.6.4
Copyright Β© 2019-2023 Guillaume Benoit
This program is free software, you can redistribute it under the terms of the GNU GPL.

My workstation is Manjaro Plasma unstable branch

 $ pacman --version

 .--.                  Pacman v7.0.0 - libalpm v15.0.0
/ _.-' .-.  .-.  .-.   Copyright (C) 2006-2024 Pacman Development Team
\  '-. '-'  '-'  '-'   Copyright (C) 2002-2006 Judd Vinet
 '--'
                       This program may be freely redistributed under
                       the terms of the GNU General Public License.


 $ pamac-manager --version
Pamac  10.7.0

 $ pamac --version
pamac-cli 11.7.0  -  libpamac 11.7.0
Copyright Β© 2019-2024 Guillaume Benoit
This program is free software, you can redistribute it under the terms of the GNU GPL.

Those version function as expected with the authorization dialog - no mysterious disappearance which locks the GUI.

I wonder if switching to testing branch might fix it. There is proper libalpm 15 support in pamac and plasma 6.2 fixed some issues.

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I don’t think so.

I have systems on stable and unstable branch - with no issues.

This leads me to ask strange questions :point_up: above.

I wonder if the OP has dbus-daemon-units instead of dbus-broker-units installed? I realise that Manjaro changed to dbus-broker-units at the start of the year, and the OP has re-installed their system since then, but I do recall at the time of the change that it was sometimes suggested that users switch back to dbus-daemon-units if the move to dbus-broker-units caused problems with their system.

There is a difference between the 2:

dbus-broker.service:

[Unit]
Description=D-Bus System Message Bus
Documentation=man:dbus-broker-launch(1)
DefaultDependencies=false
After=dbus.socket
Before=basic.target shutdown.target
Requires=dbus.socket
Conflicts=shutdown.target

[Service]
Type=notify
Sockets=dbus.socket
OOMScoreAdjust=-900
LimitNOFILE=16384
ProtectSystem=full
PrivateTmp=true
PrivateDevices=true
ExecStart=/usr/bin/dbus-broker-launch --scope system --audit
ExecReload=/usr/bin/busctl call org.freedesktop.DBus /org/freedesktop/DBus org.freedesktop.DBus ReloadConfig

[Install]
Alias=dbus.service

dbus.service:

[Unit]
Description=D-Bus System Message Bus
Documentation=man:dbus-daemon(1)
Requires=dbus.socket

[Service]
Type=notify
NotifyAccess=main
ExecStart=/usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system --address=systemd: --nofork --nopidfile --systemd-activation --syslog-only
ExecReload=/usr/bin/dbus-send --print-reply --system --type=method_call --dest=org.freedesktop.DBus / org.freedesktop.DBus.ReloadConfig
OOMScoreAdjust=-900

Perhaps @Daumeier could post the output of:

pacman -Qo /usr/lib/systemd/system/dbus.service

If dbus-broker-units is installed, then the result should be:

/usr/lib/systemd/system/dbus.service is owned by dbus-broker-units 36-4
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good morning everyone,
I wish you a wonderful sunny Sunday just like it is here in Berlin.

If I meet someone who lives near Berlin Tempelhof with whom I can expand my Linux knowledge.

Yes, then I would also like to change to testing branch, but as so far I have to develop my Linux knowledge further with your help.
Thanks all, I have learned a lot here.

Attached are the pamac and pacman versions from my Notebook where it doesn’t happen and from my PC where the window disappears.

Notebook where it does not happens

οŒ’ ξ‚°  ~ ξ‚° pacman --version ξ‚² :heavy_check_mark:

.–. Pacman v7.0.0 - libalpm v15.0.0
/ _.-’ .-. .-. .-. Copyright (C) 2006-2024 Pacman Development Team
\ '-. β€˜-’ β€˜-’ β€˜-’ Copyright (C) 2002-2006 Judd Vinet
β€˜β€“β€™
Dieses Programm darf unter Bedingungen der GNU
General Public License frei weiterverbreitet werden.

οŒ’ ξ‚°  ~ ξ‚° pamac-manager --version ξ‚² :heavy_check_mark:
Pamac 11.7.1-6
οŒ’ ξ‚°  ~ ξ‚° pamac --version ξ‚² :heavy_check_mark:
pamac-cli 11.6.0 - libpamac 11.6.4
Copyright Β© 2019-2023 Guillaume Benoit
This program is free software, you can redistribute it under the terms of the GNU GPL.
οŒ’ ξ‚°  ~ ξ‚°

and

My PC where the Window sporadic disappears.

οŒ’ ξ‚°  ~ ξ‚° pacman --version ξ‚² :heavy_check_mark:

.–. Pacman v7.0.0 - libalpm v15.0.0
/ _.-’ .-. .-. .-. Copyright (C) 2006-2024 Pacman Development Team
\ '-. β€˜-’ β€˜-’ β€˜-’ Copyright (C) 2002-2006 Judd Vinet
β€˜β€“β€™
Dieses Programm darf unter Bedingungen der GNU
General Public License frei weiterverbreitet werden.

οŒ’ ξ‚°  ~ ξ‚° pamac-manager --version ξ‚² :heavy_check_mark:
Pamac 11.7.1-6
οŒ’ ξ‚°  ~ ξ‚° pamac --version ξ‚² :heavy_check_mark:
pamac-cli 11.6.0 - libpamac 11.6.4
Copyright Β© 2019-2023 Guillaume Benoit
This program is free software, you can redistribute it under the terms of the GNU GPL.

Also the output from dbus.service

Notebook where it does not happens

Output
pacman -Qo /usr/lib/systemd/system/dbus.service ξ‚² :heavy_check_mark:
/usr/lib/systemd/system/dbus.service ist in dbus-broker-units 36-4 enthalten

and

My PC where the Window sporadic disappears.

pacman -Qo /usr/lib/systemd/system/dbus.service ξ‚² :heavy_check_mark:
/usr/lib/systemd/system/dbus.service ist in dbus-broker-units 36-4 enthalten

Thanks
Tony

Today, I got updates for some pamac related packages. With them the error in the GUI appeared again. I tried pamac update --aur and this worked fine. Thus, AUR on the CLI works.

You have to update all databases since we changed the way on how we fetch the database for AUR packages in libpamac v11.7.0. See also here: Searching AUR points to unexpected db Β· Issue #1 Β· manjaro/pamac-cli Β· GitHub

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Good Morning all,

I get an Update this Morning,

I will Monitor again.

Thanks
Tony

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Good Morning all,

and thank you for helping me.

In the last 10 days, I think there were about 3 upgrades, browser and others and an AUR Skype, then I had problems with printing and tried to install or reinstall the printer.

if of interest to the pamac.log the last 10 days

[2024-11-14T09:31:22+0100] [ALPM] upgraded vivaldi (7.0.3495.11-1 β†’ 7.0.3495.14-1)
[2024-11-14T09:31:21+0100] [ALPM] upgraded brave-browser (1.71.123-1 β†’ 1.73.89-1)
[2024-11-11T19:11:20+0100] [ALPM] upgraded skypeforlinux-bin (8.131.0.202-1 β†’ 8.132.0.201-1)
[2024-11-11T19:10:45+0100] [ALPM] upgraded pamac-cli (11.7.0-0 β†’ 11.7.1-1)
[2024-11-11T19:10:41+0100] [ALPM] upgraded archlinux-keyring (20240709-2 β†’ 20241015-1)
[2024-11-10T09:58:57+0100] [ALPM] installed testdisk (7.2-1)
[2024-11-10T09:44:00+0100] [ALPM] upgraded brave-browser (1.71.121-1 β†’ 1.71.123-1)
[2024-11-08T10:25:40+0100] [ALPM] upgraded microsoft-edge-stable-bin (130.0.2849.68-1 β†’ 130.0.2849.80-1)
[2024-11-08T10:25:06+0100] [ALPM] upgraded vivaldi (7.0.3495.10-1 β†’ 7.0.3495.11-1)
[2024-11-08T10:25:05+0100] [ALPM] upgraded signal-desktop (7.31.0-1 β†’ 7.32.0-1)
[2024-11-07T12:06:52+0100] [ALPM] installed ccd2iso (0.3-12)
[2024-11-07T12:03:41+0100] [ALPM] installed xarchiver (0.5.4.23-1)
[2024-11-07T12:03:41+0100] [ALPM] installed zip (3.0-11)
[2024-11-05T17:52:41+0100] [ALPM] installed hplip-plugin (3.24.4-1)
[2024-11-05T17:52:21+0100] [ALPM] installed hplip (1:3.24.4-2)
[2024-11-05T17:52:21+0100] [ALPM] installed python-distro (1.9.0-2)
[2024-11-05T17:23:33+0100] [ALPM] reinstalled sane (1.3.1-1)
[2024-11-05T17:04:01+0100] [ALPM] reinstalled cups-pdf (3.0.1-8)
[2024-11-05T17:04:01+0100] [ALPM] reinstalled lib32-libcups (2.4.10-1)
[2024-11-05T17:04:01+0100] [ALPM] reinstalled cups (2:2.4.10-1)
[2024-11-05T17:04:01+0100] [ALPM] reinstalled cups-filters (2.0.1-1)
[2024-11-05T17:04:01+0100] [ALPM] reinstalled libcupsfilters (2.0.0-2)
[2024-11-05T17:04:01+0100] [ALPM] reinstalled python-pycups (2.0.4-2)
[2024-11-05T17:04:01+0100] [ALPM] reinstalled libcups (2:2.4.10-1)
[2024-11-05T17:01:53+0100] [ALPM] reinstalled system-config-printer (1.5.18-4)
[2024-11-05T17:01:53+0100] [ALPM] reinstalled cups (2:2.4.10-1)
[2024-11-05T16:51:42+0100] [ALPM] installed system-config-printer (1.5.18-4)
[2024-11-05T16:51:42+0100] [ALPM] installed python-pycups (2.0.4-2)
[2024-11-05T16:45:28+0100] [ALPM] removed python-pycups (2.0.4-2)
[2024-11-05T16:45:28+0100] [ALPM] removed python-distro (1.9.0-2)
[2024-11-05T16:45:28+0100] [ALPM] removed hplip (1:3.24.4-2)
[2024-11-05T16:45:28+0100] [ALPM] removed system-config-printer (1.5.18-4)
[2024-11-05T10:21:06+0100] [ALPM] installed manjaro-printer (20240827-1)
[2024-11-05T10:21:06+0100] [ALPM] installed foomatic-db-ppds (3:20240209-1)
[2024-11-05T10:21:06+0100] [ALPM] installed gutenprint (5.3.4-3)
[2024-11-05T10:21:06+0100] [ALPM] installed cups-pdf (3.0.1-8)
[2024-11-05T10:21:06+0100] [ALPM] installed gsfonts (20200910-4)
[2024-11-05T10:21:06+0100] [ALPM] installed foomatic-db (3:20240209-1)
[2024-11-05T10:21:06+0100] [ALPM] installed foomatic-db-gutenprint-ppds (5.3.4-3)
[2024-11-05T10:21:05+0100] [ALPM] installed foomatic-db-nonfree (3:20240209-1)
[2024-11-05T10:21:05+0100] [ALPM] installed print-manager (1:6.1.5-1)
[2024-11-05T10:21:05+0100] [ALPM] installed foomatic-db-nonfree-ppds (3:20240209-1)
[2024-11-05T10:12:45+0100] [ALPM] installed system-config-printer (1.5.18-4)
[2024-11-05T10:12:45+0100] [ALPM] installed python-pycups (2.0.4-2)
[2024-11-05T10:08:25+0100] [ALPM] installed hplip (1:3.24.4-2)
[2024-11-05T10:08:25+0100] [ALPM] installed foomatic-db-engine (5:20200131-1)
[2024-11-05T10:08:25+0100] [ALPM] installed cups (2:2.4.10-1)
[2024-11-05T10:08:25+0100] [ALPM] installed cups-filters (2.0.1-1)
[2024-11-05T10:08:25+0100] [ALPM] installed libppd (2.0.0-2)
[2024-11-05T10:08:25+0100] [ALPM] installed libcupsfilters (2.0.0-2)
[2024-11-05T10:08:25+0100] [ALPM] installed python-distro (1.9.0-2)
[2024-11-05T10:08:25+0100] [ALPM] installed perl-xml-libxml (2.0210-2)
[2024-11-05T10:08:25+0100] [ALPM] installed perl-xml-sax (1.02-2)
[2024-11-05T10:08:25+0100] [ALPM] installed perl-xml-sax-base (1.09-6)
[2024-11-05T10:08:25+0100] [ALPM] installed perl-alien-libxml2 (0.19-4)
[2024-11-05T10:08:25+0100] [ALPM] installed perl-dbi (1.645-1)
[2024-11-05T10:08:25+0100] [ALPM] installed sane (1.3.1-1)
[2024-11-05T10:08:25+0100] [ALPM] installed poppler-glib (24.09.0-2)
[2024-11-05T10:08:25+0100] [ALPM] installed net-snmp (5.9.4-5)
[2024-11-05T10:08:25+0100] [ALPM] installed perl-alien-build (2.83-2)
[2024-11-05T10:08:25+0100] [ALPM] installed perl-path-tiny (0.146-2)
[2024-11-05T10:08:25+0100] [ALPM] installed perl-file-which (1.27-5)
[2024-11-05T10:08:25+0100] [ALPM] installed perl-file-chdir (0.1011-6)
[2024-11-05T10:08:25+0100] [ALPM] installed perl-ffi-checklib (0.31-5)
[2024-11-05T10:08:25+0100] [ALPM] installed perl-capture-tiny (0.48-9)
[2024-11-05T10:08:25+0100] [ALPM] installed perl-xml-namespacesupport (1.12-6)
[2024-11-05T10:08:25+0100] [ALPM] installed qpdf (11.9.1-1)
[2024-11-05T10:08:25+0100] [ALPM] installed libieee1284 (0.2.11-16)
[2024-11-05T10:07:27+0100] [ALPM] removed python-pycups (2.0.4-2)
[2024-11-05T10:07:27+0100] [ALPM] removed qpdf (11.9.1-1)
[2024-11-05T10:07:27+0100] [ALPM] removed libcupsfilters (2.0.0-2)
[2024-11-05T10:07:27+0100] [ALPM] removed libppd (2.0.0-2)
[2024-11-05T10:07:27+0100] [ALPM] removed cups-filters (2.0.1-1)
[2024-11-05T10:07:27+0100] [ALPM] removed cups (2:2.4.10-1)
[2024-11-05T10:07:27+0100] [ALPM] removed system-config-printer (1.5.18-4)
[2024-11-05T10:03:54+0100] [ALPM] installed cups (2:2.4.10-1)
[2024-11-05T10:03:54+0100] [ALPM] installed cups-filters (2.0.1-1)
[2024-11-05T10:03:54+0100] [ALPM] installed libppd (2.0.0-2)
[2024-11-05T10:03:54+0100] [ALPM] installed libcupsfilters (2.0.0-2)
[2024-11-05T10:03:54+0100] [ALPM] installed qpdf (11.9.1-1)
[2024-11-05T09:59:21+0100] [ALPM] installed system-config-printer (1.5.18-4)
[2024-11-05T09:59:21+0100] [ALPM] installed python-pycups (2.0.4-2)
[2024-11-05T09:15:21+0100] [ALPM] upgraded microsoft-edge-stable-bin (130.0.2849.56-1 β†’ 130.0.2849.68-1)

Not once has the authentication window disappeared.

Everything is fine now.

Problem seems to be solved
with your help and the update of PAMAC.

pacman --version && pamac-manager --version && pamac --version                                                                                                           ξ‚² βœ” 

 .--.                  Pacman v7.0.0 - libalpm v15.0.0
/ _.-' .-.  .-.  .-.   Copyright (C) 2006-2024 Pacman Development Team
\  '-. '-'  '-'  '-'   Copyright (C) 2002-2006 Judd Vinet
 '--'
                       Dieses Programm darf unter Bedingungen der GNU
                       General Public License frei weiterverbreitet werden.

Pamac  11.7.2-0
pamac-cli 11.7.1  -  libpamac 11.7.0
Copyright Β© 2019-2024 Guillaume Benoit
This program is free software, you can redistribute it under the terms of the GNU GPL.

Thank you and have a nice day.

Greeting
Tony

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