Pamac became really unusable

It’s sad to see the only main app from Manjaro becomes really unstable with latest updates:

  • It crashes at any moment and at random operations,
  • The upgrade process sometimes finishes “successfully” without updating any package, while yay shows that many upgrades are still not done,
  • That AUR ‘Failed to synch…AUR’ pop dialog keeps appearing while internet works fine,
  • Pamac sometimes fails to launch after first click and needs to be clicked on a second time to start,
  • And the most annoying problem is the failing “Aborted…” errors frequency when I install or upgrade an AUR package, I need to repeat the task many times to succeed…

Pamac 11.0.0  -  libpamac 11.5.7 - pamac-gtk3 10.5.3-4
Operating System: Manjaro Linux 
KDE Plasma Version: 5.27.6
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.108.0
Qt Version: 5.15.10
Kernel Version: 6.4.3-1-MANJARO (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: Wayland

Absolutely true and not just on kde either same problems on xfce. This morning it detected 2 updates neither of which it could install, when I switched to command line there were 14 updates all of which installed normally.

Strangely, I have no problems with Pamac since I’ve installed pamac-gtk3.

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Yeah, I have enjoyed manjaro for years and now I am thinking I need the stability of Ubuntu or maybe Debian 12 Bookworm. I am in the endless loop of this also and my system is randomly crashing where it didn’t before…
The never ending loop …

   ~  sudo pamac update  :heavy_check_mark:
Warning: Building packages as dynamic user
Warning: Setting build directory to /var/cache/pamac
Preparing…
Synchronizing package databases…
Refreshing AUR…
Resolving dependencies…
Checking inter-conflicts…

To upgrade (5):
firefox 115.0.2-1 (115.0.1-1) extra
inxi 3.3.28.1-2 (3.3.27.1-1) extra
libpamac 11.5.7-1 (11.5.5-2) extra
libpamac-flatpak-plugin 11.5.7-1 (11.5.5-1) extra
pamac-tray-icon-plasma 0.1.3-1 (0.1.2-5) extra

Total installed size: -259.9 kB

Apply transaction ? [y/N] Y
Transaction successfully finished.
   ~  sudo pamac upgrade  :heavy_check_mark:  10s 
Warning: Building packages as dynamic user
Warning: Setting build directory to /var/cache/pamac
Preparing…
Synchronizing package databases…
Resolving dependencies…
Checking inter-conflicts…

To upgrade (5):
firefox 115.0.2-1 (115.0.1-1) extra
inxi 3.3.28.1-2 (3.3.27.1-1) extra
libpamac 11.5.7-1 (11.5.5-2) extra
libpamac-flatpak-plugin 11.5.7-1 (11.5.5-1) extra
pamac-tray-icon-plasma 0.1.3-1 (0.1.2-5) extra

Total installed size: -259.9 kB

Apply transaction ? [y/N] Y
Transaction successfully finished.

And yes I did try first as standard user etc… this is me in exasperation now.

It’s installed on mine but, alas no changes to my pamac it is still defunct.

sudo should not be used with pamac

Latest version of pamac (libpamac 11.5.7-1) will request password in terminal if root privileges are needed

$ pamac update --force-refresh
Preparing...
==== AUTHENTICATING FOR org.manjaro.pamac.commit ====
Authentication is required to install, update, or remove packages
Authenticating as: nik gnomic (nik)
Password: 
==== AUTHENTICATION COMPLETE ====
Synchronizing package databases...
Refreshing core.db...                                                                                                   
Refreshing extra.db...                                                                                                  
Refreshing multilib.db...

Your current version of libpamac (11.5.5-2) is buggy and cannot update itself to later working version

but pacman should be able to update repository packages (pacman does need sudo for root privileges)

sudo pacman -Syyu
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Thank you, so much! I was dreading having to change OS’s.
The two commands in the order you gave them to me.

1.pamac update --force-refresh
2. sudo pacman -Syyu
Fixed the issues promptly.

today was a update of the keyrings. first issue: my password wasn’t accepted. this strange behaviour that users describe that their passwords aren’t accepted in various sitiuations in the last time is suspicious. second issue: again updating the keyrings broke my kmail-account-settings. that’s the second time that kmail-settings are vanished after an update.
pamac is still not reliable.

Same issue here on both my work and private laptop. While I can go to the forum and find a solution like in this thread and fix it using the terminal, there are users, who rely on the simplicity of Manjaro, can’t fix the issue. And that’s bad for spreading Linux as a system for non-technically inclined people. And as far as know it’s not the first time that there are problems caused by invalid gpg keys in Manjaro.

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