Problem after latest upgrade: login but no system bar

Hello all, I’m not sure it’s a graphics issue but seems to me .
I have Manjaro on this system last 2 years never had a problem. In NUC like box with Ryzen 9 Apu connected through DP.
After last week upgrade, after I log in I get the monitor to switch off and goes through all the inputs and then Manjaro starts with wallpaper and widgets but no system bar and icons.
If I do alt+F2 I can open settings or terminal but everything seems fine. This happens both in X or plasma (I always used plasma nicely).
Tried different kernels, couple of times solved it but the issue comes back. Also if I shut down it hangs on black screen on nvme drive and must use power button.

On same box I have win10 installed on another SSD and it’s fine.
I have the same Manjaro on a Dell intel laptop but that’s fine, upgraded too.

Anybody please lend advice? I don’t know what’s going on and system is unusable

post full system info:
inxi -zav7
and create a new test user, reboot, log in with the test user, and see if it has the same issue…

Your Plasma configuration has gotten corrupted. It has happened to me twice as well in the last 3 months.

Switch to a tty, log in as yourself, and then issue the following commands… :arrow_down:

sudo systemctl stop sddm
for fn in ~/.config/plasma* ; do mv $fn ~/.config/broken_$fn ; done
rm -f ~/.cache/*.kcache
sudo systemctl start sddm && exit

Now you can log in again, and from there on, reapply your customizations.

Once you’ve set everything up to your liking again, make sure to make a backup. A good way of saving your Plasma configuration is by way of konsave from the AUR… :arrow_down:

pamac build konsave

However, the version in the AUR is not preconfigured for Plasma. You’ll have to open the file ~/.config/konsave/conf.yaml with a text editor, delete everything in the file, and then paste the entire content here-below into the file. :arrow_down:

---
# This is the configuration file for konsave.
# This file is pre-configured for KDE Plasma users.
# This will backup all the important files for your Plasma customizations.
# Please make sure it follows the correct format for proper working of Konsave.
# The format should be:
# ---
# save:
#     name:
#         location: "path/to/parent/directory"
#         entries: 
#         # these are files which will be backed up. 
#         # They should be present in the specified location.
#             - file1
#             - file2
# export:
#     # This includes files which will be exported with your profile.
#     # They will not be saved but only be exported and imported.
#     # These may include files like complete icon packs and themes..
#     name:
#         location: "path/to/parent/directory"
#         entries: 
#             - file1
#             - file2
# ...
# You can use these placeholders in the "location" of each item:
# $HOME: the home directory
# $CONFIG_DIR: refers to "$HOME/.config/"
# $SHARE_DIR: refers to "$HOME/.local/share"
# $BIN_DIR: refers to "$HOME/.local/bin"
# ${ENDS_WITH="text"}: for folders with different names on different computers whose names end with the same thing.
# The best example for this is the "*.default-release" folder of firefox.
# ${BEGINS_WITH="text"}: for folders with different names on different computers whose names start with the same thing.

save:
    configs:
        location: "$CONFIG_DIR"
        entries:
            - gtk-2.0
            - gtk-3.0
            - gtk-4.0
            - kate
            - Kvantum
            - latte
            - dolphinrc
            - katerc
            - konsolerc
            - kcminputrc
            - kdeglobals
            - kglobalshortcutsrc
            - klipperrc
            - krunnerrc
            - kscreenlockerrc
            - ksmserverrc
            - kwinrc
            - kwinrulesrc
            - plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc
            - plasmarc
            - plasmashellrc
            - gtkrc
            - gtkrc-2.0
            - lattedockrc
            - breezerc
            - oxygenrc
            - lightlyrc
            - ksplashrc
            - khotkeysrc

    app_layouts:
        location: "$HOME/.local/share/kxmlgui5"
        entries:
            - dolphin
            - konsole

    # Here are a few examples of how you can add more stuff to back up.
    # Uncomment these lines if you want.
    # firefox:
    #     location: "$HOME/.mozilla/firefox/${ENDS_WITH='.default-release'}"
    #     entries:
    #         - chrome # for firefox customizations

    # code oss:
    #     location: "$CONFIG_DIR/Code - OSS/User/"
    #     entries:
    #         - settings.json


# The following files will only be used for exporting and importing.
export:
    share_folder:
        location: "$SHARE_DIR"
        entries:
            - plasma
            - kwin
            - konsole
            - fonts
            - color-schemes
            - aurorae
            - icons
            - wallpapers

    home_folder:
        location: "$HOME/"
        entries:
            - .fonts
            - .themes
            - .icons
    
        
    # You can add more files to export like this
    # name:
    #     location: "path/to/parent/directory"
    #     entries:
    #         - file1
    #         - file2
    #         - folder1
    #         - folder2
...

Save the file, and then you can make a backup copy of your configuration, like so… :arrow_down:

konsave -s my_plasma_configuration

You can of course choose a different name for your saved configuration. You can even save multiple configurations and switch between them on the fly. See… :arrow_down:

konsave --help

thanks for replying

inxi -zav7                                                                                     ✔ 
System:
  Kernel: 6.5.0-1-MANJARO arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 13.2.1
    clocksource: tsc available: hpet,acpi_pm
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.5-x86_64
    root=UUID=3029d2be-1cf1-4ca9-8530-d3081af5774b rw quiet apparmor=1
    security=apparmor udev.log_priority=3
  Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.27.7 tk: Qt v: 5.15.10 wm: kwin_wayland vt: 1
    dm: SDDM Distro: Manjaro Linux base: Arch Linux
Machine:
  Type: Desktop Mobo: BESSTAR TECH model: HM90 serial: <superuser required>
    UEFI: American Megatrends v: 5.16 date: 10/13/2021
Battery:
  Message: No system battery data found. Is one present?
Memory:
  System RAM: total: 32 GiB note: est. available: 30.77 GiB
    used: 4.24 GiB (13.8%)
  RAM Report: permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges
    required.
CPU:
  Info: model: AMD Ryzen 9 4900H with Radeon Graphics bits: 64 type: MT MCP
    arch: Zen 2 gen: 3 level: v3 note: check built: 2020-22
    process: TSMC n7 (7nm) family: 0x17 (23) model-id: 0x60 (96) stepping: 1
    microcode: 0x8600106
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 8 tpc: 2 threads: 16 smt: enabled cache:
    L1: 512 KiB desc: d-8x32 KiB; i-8x32 KiB L2: 4 MiB desc: 8x512 KiB L3: 8 MiB
    desc: 2x4 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 2035 high: 3300 min/max: 1400/3300 boost: enabled
    scaling: driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: schedutil cores: 1: 1397 2: 1739
    3: 1400 4: 3300 5: 1667 6: 1400 7: 1400 8: 3300 9: 1769 10: 1400 11: 3039
    12: 2841 13: 3300 14: 1400 15: 1501 16: 1710 bogomips: 105440
  Flags: 3dnowprefetch abm adx aes aperfmperf apic arat avic avx avx2 bmi1
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    constant_tsc cpb cppc cpuid cqm cqm_llc cqm_mbm_local cqm_mbm_total
    cqm_occup_llc cr8_legacy cx16 cx8 de decodeassists extapic extd_apicid
    f16c flushbyasid fma fpu fsgsbase fxsr fxsr_opt ht hw_pstate ibpb ibrs
    ibs irperf lahf_lm lbrv lm mba mca mce misalignsse mmx mmxext monitor
    movbe msr mtrr mwaitx nonstop_tsc nopl npt nrip_save nx osvw
    overflow_recov pae pat pausefilter pclmulqdq pdpe1gb perfctr_core
    perfctr_llc perfctr_nb pfthreshold pge pni popcnt pse pse36 rapl rdpid
    rdpru rdrand rdseed rdt_a rdtscp rep_good sep sha_ni skinit smap smca
    smep ssbd sse sse2 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 stibp succor svm svm_lock
    syscall tce topoext tsc tsc_scale umip v_spec_ctrl v_vmsave_vmload vgif
    vmcb_clean vme vmmcall wbnoinvd wdt xgetbv1 xsave xsavec xsaveerptr
    xsaveopt
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed mitigation: untrained return thunk; SMT enabled with STIBP
    protection
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow mitigation: safe RET
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via
    prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer
    sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, IBPB: conditional, STIBP:
    always-on, RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Renoir driver: amdgpu v: kernel arch: GCN-5 code: Vega
    process: GF 14nm built: 2017-20 pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16
    link-max: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s ports: active: DP-1
    empty: DP-2,DP-3,HDMI-A-1 bus-ID: 06:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:1636
    class-ID: 0300 temp: 42.0 C
  Display: wayland server: X.org v: 1.21.1.8 with: Xwayland v: 23.2.0
    compositor: kwin_wayland driver: X: loaded: amdgpu unloaded: modesetting
    alternate: fbdev,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu display-ID: 0
  Monitor-1: DP-1 res: 3440x1440 size: N/A modes: N/A
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 23.1.6-2 renderer: AMD Radeon Graphics (renoir
    LLVM 15.0.7 DRM 3.54 6.5.0-1-MANJARO) direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: AMD Renoir Radeon High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
    v: kernel pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 link-max: gen: 4
    speed: 16 GT/s bus-ID: 06:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:1637 class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: AMD ACP/ACP3X/ACP6x Audio Coprocessor driver: N/A
    alternate: snd_pci_acp3x, snd_rn_pci_acp3x, snd_pci_acp5x, snd_pci_acp6x,
    snd_acp_pci, snd_rpl_pci_acp6x, snd_pci_ps, snd_sof_amd_renoir,
    snd_sof_amd_rembrandt pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 link-max:
    gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s bus-ID: 06:00.5 chip-ID: 1022:15e2 class-ID: 0480
  Device-3: AMD Family 17h/19h HD Audio vendor: Realtek
    driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16
    link-max: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s bus-ID: 06:00.6 chip-ID: 1022:15e3
    class-ID: 0403
  Device-4: C-Media Audio Adapter (Unitek Y-247A)
    driver: cmedia_hs100b,snd-usb-audio,usbhid type: USB rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s
    lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 bus-ID: 5-3:2 chip-ID: 0d8c:0014 class-ID: 0300
  API: ALSA v: k6.5.0-1-MANJARO status: kernel-api with: aoss
    type: oss-emulator tools: alsactl,alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: JACK v: 1.9.22 status: off tools: N/A
  Server-2: PipeWire v: 0.3.78 status: off with: pipewire-media-session
    status: active tools: pw-cli
  Server-3: PulseAudio v: 16.1 status: active with: 1: pulseaudio-alsa
    type: plugin 2: pulseaudio-jack type: module tools: pacat,pactl
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
    driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: f000
    bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200
  IF: eno1 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-2: MEDIATEK MT7921K Wi-Fi 6E 80MHz driver: mt7921e v: kernel pcie:
    gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 14c3:0608
    class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlp3s0 state: up mac: <filter>
  IP v4: <filter> type: dynamic noprefixroute scope: global
    broadcast: <filter>
  IP v6: <filter> type: noprefixroute scope: link
  Device-3: Intel Ethernet I225-V driver: igc v: kernel pcie: gen: 2
    speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: N/A bus-ID: 04:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:15f3
    class-ID: 0200
  IF: enp4s0 state: down mac: <filter>
  WAN IP: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: MediaTek Wireless_Device driver: btusb v: 0.8 type: USB rev: 2.1
    speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 bus-ID: 5-4:3 chip-ID: 0e8d:0608
    class-ID: e001 serial: <filter>
  Report: rfkill ID: hci0 rfk-id: 0 state: up address: see --recommends
Logical:
  Message: No logical block device data found.
RAID:
  Message: No RAID data found.
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 456.46 GiB used: 64.16 GiB (14.1%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Kingston model: SKC2500M8250G
    size: 232.89 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s
    lanes: 4 tech: SSD serial: <filter> fw-rev: S7780101 temp: 32.9 C
    scheme: GPT
  ID-2: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Kingston model: SUV400S37240G
    size: 223.57 GiB block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s
    tech: SSD serial: <filter> fw-rev: 37R5 scheme: GPT
  Message: No optical or floppy data found.
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 232.59 GiB size: 227.88 GiB (97.98%)
    used: 64.16 GiB (28.2%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2 maj-min: 259:2
    label: N/A uuid: 3029d2be-1cf1-4ca9-8530-d3081af5774b
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 300 MiB size: 299.4 MiB (99.80%)
    used: 292 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1 maj-min: 259:1
    label: NO_LABEL uuid: B678-0C18
Swap:
  Alert: No swap data was found.
Unmounted:
  ID-1: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1 size: 450 MiB fs: ntfs label: Recovery
    uuid: 6002E31302E2ED4A
  ID-2: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2 size: 100 MiB fs: vfat label: N/A
    uuid: 1EE4-9713
  ID-3: /dev/sda3 maj-min: 8:3 size: 16 MiB fs: <superuser required>
    label: N/A uuid: N/A
  ID-4: /dev/sda4 maj-min: 8:4 size: 222.5 GiB fs: ntfs label: N/A
    uuid: DAFCF581FCF557E9
  ID-5: /dev/sda5 maj-min: 8:5 size: 528 MiB fs: ntfs label: N/A
    uuid: 642C86802C864CCC
USB:
  Hub-1: 1-0:1 info: hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 1 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-2: 1-1:2 info: VIA Labs Hub ports: 4 rev: 2.1
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 power: 100mA
    chip-ID: 2109:3431 class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 1-1.2:3 info: MosArt Wireless Mouse type: mouse
    driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 1 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s (1.4 MiB/s)
    lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 power: 100mA chip-ID: 062a:4102 class-ID: 0301
  Device-2: 1-1.3:4 info: SINO WEALTH Gaming KB type: keyboard,HID
    driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 2 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s (1.4 MiB/s)
    lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 power: 500mA chip-ID: 258a:002a class-ID: 0300
  Hub-3: 1-1.4:5 info: VIA Labs VL812 Hub ports: 4 rev: 2.1
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 2109:2812
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-4: 2-0:1 info: super-speed hub ports: 4 rev: 3.0
    speed: 5 Gb/s (596.0 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-1x1 chip-ID: 1d6b:0003
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-5: 2-4:2 info: VIA Labs VL812 Hub ports: 4 rev: 3.0
    speed: 5 Gb/s (596.0 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-1x1 chip-ID: 2109:0812
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-6: 3-0:1 info: hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 4 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-7: 4-0:1 info: super-speed hub ports: 2 rev: 3.1
    speed: 10 Gb/s (1.16 GiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-2x1 chip-ID: 1d6b:0003
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-8: 5-0:1 info: hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 4 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
    class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 5-3:2 info: C-Media Audio Adapter (Unitek Y-247A)
    type: audio,HID driver: cmedia_hs100b,snd-usb-audio,usbhid interfaces: 4
    rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s (1.4 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 power: 100mA
    chip-ID: 0d8c:0014 class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: 5-4:3 info: MediaTek Wireless_Device type: bluetooth
    driver: btusb interfaces: 3 rev: 2.1 speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1
    mode: 2.0 power: 100mA chip-ID: 0e8d:0608 class-ID: e001 serial: <filter>
  Hub-9: 6-0:1 info: super-speed hub ports: 2 rev: 3.1
    speed: 10 Gb/s (1.16 GiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-2x1 chip-ID: 1d6b:0003
    class-ID: 0900
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 55.9 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 42.0 C
  Fan Speeds (rpm): N/A
Info:
  Processes: 353 Uptime: 2m wakeups: 0 Init: systemd v: 253 default: graphical
  tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 13.2.1 clang: 15.0.7 Packages: pm: pacman
  pkgs: 1452 libs: 375 tools: pamac pm: flatpak pkgs: 0 Shell: Zsh v: 5.9
  default: Bash v: 5.1.16 running-in: konsole inxi: 3.3.29
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yes, thanks for replying.
when I hit alt F2 for another tty it goes to login screen but hangs (only cursor moves). It’s strange as sometimes I can log in fine.
I posted system info in previous reply

Nowadays it is not to be taken for granted anymore that the Plasma session would be running at tty1. It varies between tty1 and tty2. So in order to get to an actual free tty with a login console, you have to press Ctrl+Alt+F3.

Alright did all that but on 2nd command it states that MV cannot work because there’s no such a directory.

I completed the other commands but when I logged in again it does the same thing: black screen cycling through all video outputs then as in 1st post

but after say 8-10 minutes it logs in but plasma seems messy: shows no connections, theen it connects to wifi but icon stays on disconnected
Is there a way to reset plasma without reinstalling manjaro?

What second command? Please provide context.

WiFi problems are another issue, and for another forum category. :man_shrugging:

I’ve just told you that… :arrow_down:

sudo systemctl stop sddm
for fn in ~/.config/plasma* ; do mv $fn ~/.config/broken_$fn ; done
rm -f ~/.cache/*.kcache
sudo systemctl start sddm && exit

this command
for fn in ~/.config/plasma* ; do mv $fn ~/.config/broken_$fn ; done
I did input all the lines you suggested but seems like nothing got reset

I don’t have wifi problems, it shows as not connected but it is. The wifi icon on the system bar shows as connected after a long while

That sounds like a stuck process — not with the WiFi itself, but with Plasma showing you that it’s connected.

Okay, once more, try this… :arrow_down:

cd ~/.config
for fn in plasma* ; do mv $fn broken_$fn ; done
cd ~/.local/share
mv plasma plasma_broken
cd ~/.cache
rm -rf *

Do this from a tty while completely logged out of Plasma. If you cannot log out of Plasma due to it being stuck, log into the tty anyway and then first issue the command… :arrow_down:

sudo systemctl stop sddm

Then execute the other commands here-above, and if you’ve had to stop sddm, then you must also restart it again, with… :arrow_down:

sudo systemctl start sddm

Alright, did everything and had to reboot a couple of times until to get plasma at initial state. It was fine for a couple of boots and re customized it. But today it’s doing the same thing. Wallpaper on, no plasma, which appears 10 minutes later. It seems something more radical. Sometimes it hangs and everything goes black and white

Most likely, the cause is a no longer supported global theme. I would personally recommend not installing any global themes, but to customize the individual components instead, i.e. application theme, application color, window decorations, Plasma theme (panels and widgets), and so on.

Also always make a backup of your working configuration, so that you can restore it if things go wrong.

It seems wise to. I’ll try reset the whole thing based on your previous post and customize it as you say. Thanks for now

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Once you have a working configuration, follow this tutorial… :arrow_down:

Ok I reinstalled Manjaro KDE from scratch, so far so good, still have to customize visuals but I have a question: could it be that I was using Wayland? I started to experience many lockups

That is possible. I do not know whether the recent installer images default to Wayland or not. I’m still on X11, and this system was installed in April 2019, which is quite a while ago.

Of course, I have kept it updated all along, but I’ve never had to reinstall, and as I consider Wayland a work in progress, I have therefore so far wisely declined to make the switch. :wink:

Sorry I didn’t explain myself. I was on Wayland previously and after last upgrade I started to have problems I outlined here, after 2 years. I also have Wayland on laptop and been fine.

I’m now on X as Manjaro defaults on it… after your answer I’ll keep it that way I think :smiley: thanks

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