Yes, I experienced it - sometimes it has few mins of delay in updating.
But in my scenario, I have closed and re-opened Dolphin, and the 1st report (before FreeFileSync’s 8+ hr check) and the report (after 8+ hr check) remained the same.
When the Journaling is disabled on a partition, the “journaling disabled” info is stored on the filesystem, and not OS, right?
So, when I mount the partition on another OS, the partition would still be “journaling disabled”?
And after journaling is disabled, what features/advantages can ext4 still offer?
Well, it depends. One can mount a journaled filesystem with the journal disabled, and then it won’t get updated for as long as it’s mounted. But if you then remount it and the mount options do not specify that the journal must be disabled, it’ll be enabled again.
On the other hand, I think it’s also possible — at least, on ext4 — to disable the journal at the filesystem level by way of tune2fs. See the man page.
man tune2fs
But that all said, NTFS is a proprietary beast, and it keeps on moving the goalposts all the time, so I have no idea what it does.
Support for UNIX/POSIX file ownership and permissions, high throughput, and extent-based storage via hashed trees.
NTFS does not store the owner by default, nor does it support POSIX permissions out-of-the-box, because Microsoft Windows is not a POSIX system. Windows relies on ACLs instead.
NTFS does not support those out-of-the-box
NTFS is not case-sensitive out-of-the-box. Windows would break if that were the case.
NTFS does not support copy-on-write.
I strongly advise against disabling the journal. You’d be asking for trouble.
It’s tune2fs, and it’s a command-line utility.
man tune2fs
On ext3/ext4? Turns out I was wrong about that. There is indeed a mount option for disabling the journal on NTFS, but on ext4 you have to set it in the filesystem itself with tune2fs.
@Aragorn
The table was compiled from Wikipedia.
It might be good if someone highlight their mistakes.
So there is no mount option needed to disable journaling?
Just tune2fs is sufficient?
I’m pretty torn here.
I’m using ntfs for storage of media, cuz ntfs would allow me to use most of the storage size.
But many people advised against ntfs.
In comparison, if I use ext4, I would need to sacrifice 1TB of space per 20TB HDD, for journaling.
And then I was told that journaling could be disabled.
I understand where you coming from, but ext4 with journaling enabled is definitely a “no go” to me.
Thus, I’m left with 2 options: ext4 with journaling disabled vs ntfs.
What would be better choice? ext4 with journaling disabled? ntfs?
Been there, tried that. Wikipedia is unfortunately governed by self-righteous committees with agendas.
Yes. tune2fs sets the options in the on-disk filesystem itself.
You may include me among those people. NTFS is a horrible filesystem, and it’s not native to GNU/Linux.
Then I stand by my point, which is that you’re asking for trouble by disabling journaling, and especially on a filesystem that large and with that many files on it.
But hey, it’s your computer. I wash my hands in innocence.
Which is better, jumping off a cliff or jumping in front of a speeding train?
