Newer kernel is available, please update

eexxil · 2 March 2021 13:07

Two times the last days I have got a prompt saying:
“Newer kernel availeble, please update.”

If I open it I can see a list of Kernel versions, and I can click select and install. But is this something I should do?

Inix output:

System:
  Kernel: 5.9.16-1-MANJARO x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
  parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.9-x86_64 
  root=UUID=dc9d5ed1-acd3-4c02-a140-0b1e68d3271d rw quiet apparmor=1 
  security=apparmor udev.log_priority=3 
  Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm4 
  dm: LightDM 1.30.0 Distro: Manjaro Linux 
Machine:
  Type: Desktop Mobo: ASRock model: Z370 Pro4 serial: <filter> 
  UEFI [Legacy]: American Megatrends v: P4.30 date: 10/31/2019 
Battery:
  Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech Wireless Keyboard serial: <filter> 
  charge: 55% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes status: Discharging 
  Device-2: hidpp_battery_1 model: Logitech M705 serial: <filter> charge: 100% 
  rechargeable: yes status: Discharging 
Memory:
  RAM: total: 15.57 GiB used: 2.92 GiB (18.7%) 
  RAM Report: permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required. 
CPU:
  Info: 6-Core model: Intel Core i5-8400 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Kaby Lake 
  note: check family: 6 model-id: 9E (158) stepping: A (10) microcode: DE 
  L2 cache: 9 MiB bogomips: 33613 
  Speed: 800 MHz min/max: 800/4000 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 800 2: 800 3: 800 
  4: 800 5: 800 6: 800 
  Flags: 3dnowprefetch abm acpi adx aes aperfmperf apic arat arch_perfmon art 
  avx avx2 bmi1 bmi2 bts clflush clflushopt cmov constant_tsc cpuid 
  cpuid_fault cx16 cx8 de ds_cpl dtes64 dtherm dts epb ept ept_ad erms est 
  f16c flexpriority flush_l1d fma fpu fsgsbase fxsr ht hwp hwp_act_window 
  hwp_epp hwp_notify ibpb ibrs ida intel_pt invpcid invpcid_single lahf_lm lm 
  mca mce md_clear mmx monitor movbe mpx msr mtrr nonstop_tsc nopl nx pae pat 
  pbe pcid pclmulqdq pdcm pdpe1gb pebs pge pln pni popcnt pse pse36 pti pts 
  rdrand rdseed rdtscp rep_good sdbg sep smap smep ss ssbd sse sse2 sse4_1 
  sse4_2 ssse3 stibp syscall tm tm2 tpr_shadow tsc tsc_adjust 
  tsc_deadline_timer vme vmx vnmi vpid x2apic xgetbv1 xsave xsavec xsaveopt 
  xsaves xtopology xtpr 
  Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled 
  Type: l1tf 
  mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT disabled 
  Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT disabled 
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
  Type: spec_store_bypass 
  mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
  Type: spectre_v1 
  mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, IBPB: conditional, 
  IBRS_FW, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling 
  Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode 
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Lexa PRO [Radeon 540/540X/550/550X / RX 540X/550/550X] 
  vendor: XFX Pine driver: amdgpu v: kernel bus ID: 03:00.0 chip ID: 1002:699f 
  class ID: 0300 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.10 driver: loaded: amdgpu,ati 
  unloaded: modesetting alternate: fbdev,vesa display ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 3840x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 1016x285mm (40.0x11.2") 
  s-diag: 1055mm (41.5") 
  Monitor-1: DisplayPort-0 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 96 
  size: 509x286mm (20.0x11.3") diag: 584mm (23") 
  Monitor-2: HDMI-A-0 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 96 
  size: 509x286mm (20.0x11.3") diag: 584mm (23") 
  OpenGL: renderer: Radeon RX550/550 Series (POLARIS12 DRM 3.39.0 
  5.9.16-1-MANJARO LLVM 11.1.0) 
  v: 4.6 Mesa 20.3.4 direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 200 Series PCH HD Audio vendor: ASRock driver: snd_hda_intel 
  v: kernel bus ID: 00:1f.3 chip ID: 8086:a2f0 class ID: 0403 
  Device-2: AMD Baffin HDMI/DP Audio [Radeon RX 550 640SP / RX 560/560X] 
  vendor: XFX Pine driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 03:00.1 
  chip ID: 1002:aae0 class ID: 0403 
  Device-3: Logitech Headset H390 type: USB 
  driver: hid-generic,snd-usb-audio,usbhid bus ID: 1-13:4 chip ID: 046d:0a44 
  class ID: 0300 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.9.16-1-MANJARO 
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Ethernet I219-V vendor: ASRock driver: e1000e v: kernel 
  port: f000 bus ID: 00:1f.6 chip ID: 8086:15b8 class ID: 0200 
  IF: eno1 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
  IP v4: <filter> type: dynamic noprefixroute scope: global 
  broadcast: <filter> 
  IP v6: <filter> type: noprefixroute scope: link 
  WAN IP: <filter> 
Bluetooth:
  Message: No Bluetooth data was found. 
RAID:
  Message: No RAID data was found. 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 2.05 TiB used: 472.35 GiB (22.5%) 
  SMART Message: Required tool smartctl not installed. Check --recommends 
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Western Digital model: WD10EZEX-00ZF5A0 
  size: 931.51 GiB block size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s 
  serial: <filter> rev: 0A80 scheme: MBR 
  ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 860 EVO 250GB 
  size: 232.89 GiB block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s 
  rotation: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 1B6Q scheme: MBR 
  ID-3: /dev/sdc maj-min: 8:32 type: USB vendor: Toshiba model: MQ01ABD100 
  size: 931.51 GiB block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B 
  rotation: 5400 rpm serial: <filter> scheme: MBR 
  Message: No Optical or Floppy data was found. 
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw size: 232.88 GiB size: 228.23 GiB (98.00%) 
  used: 46.31 GiB (20.3%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb1 maj-min: 8:17 label: N/A 
  uuid: dc9d5ed1-acd3-4c02-a140-0b1e68d3271d 
  ID-2: /mnt/Marvels_daddy raw size: 893.17 GiB size: 878.15 GiB (98.32%) 
  used: 426.04 GiB (48.5%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1 
  label: Marvels_daddy uuid: 59b08e4b-1a8f-45f2-a410-5629bc1b1b7b 
Swap:
  Alert: No Swap data was found. 
Unmounted:
  ID-1: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2 size: 38.34 GiB fs: ext4 label: Timeshift 
  uuid: 404732aa-045c-4759-b8b0-0366e051437d 
  ID-2: /dev/sdc1 maj-min: 8:33 size: 931.51 GiB fs: ntfs label: TOSHIBA EXT 
  uuid: F086EAE086EAA676 
USB:
  Hub-1: 1-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 16 rev: 2.0 
  speed: 480 Mb/s chip ID: 1d6b:0002 class ID: 0900 
  Device-1: 1-1:2 info: Logitech Unifying Receiver type: Keyboard,Mouse 
  driver: logitech-djreceiver,usbhid interfaces: 2 rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s 
  chip ID: 046d:c534 class ID: 0301 
  Hub-2: 1-10:3 info: Terminus Hub ports: 4 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s 
  chip ID: 1a40:0101 class ID: 0900 
  Device-1: 1-10.2:5 info: Logitech Unifying Receiver type: Keyboard,Mouse,HID 
  driver: logitech-djreceiver,usbhid interfaces: 3 rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s 
  chip ID: 046d:c52b class ID: 0300 
  Device-2: 1-13:4 info: Logitech Headset H390 type: Audio,HID 
  driver: hid-generic,snd-usb-audio,usbhid interfaces: 4 rev: 1.1 
  speed: 12 Mb/s chip ID: 046d:0a44 class ID: 0300 
  Hub-3: 2-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 10 rev: 3.0 speed: 5 Gb/s 
  chip ID: 1d6b:0003 class ID: 0900 
  Device-1: 2-3:2 info: Toshiba America External USB 3.0 type: Mass Storage 
  driver: usb-storage interfaces: 1 rev: 3.0 speed: 5 Gb/s chip ID: 0480:a00a 
  class ID: 0806 serial: <filter> 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 29.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 29.0 C 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: amdgpu fan: 1554 
Info:
  Processes: 270 Uptime: 45m wakeups: 10 Init: systemd v: 247 Compilers: 
  gcc: 10.2.0 Packages: 1328 pacman: 1310 lib: 407 flatpak: 10 snap: 8 
  Shell: Bash v: 5.1.0 running in: xfce4-terminal inxi: 3.3.01

Thank you

Mirdarthos · 2 March 2021 13:16

Hi @eexxil,

Short answer: Yes.

Long answer: Yes.

Because you’re using kernel 5.9 which is EOL. (End Of Life.) So it’s recommended you use a different one. You can install version 5.10 which is the next LTS version if you want to be careful or the current LTS version which is 5.4.

Edit:

Or, if you’re feeling adventurous, you can install 5.11. Although, it’s not LTS so you’ll have to go through this dance in a few months again, so I don’t really recommend it.

eexxil · 2 March 2021 13:33

Ok. Thank you.
It makes me a bit nervous so I am not going to be adventurous . I’ll go with the safest bet I guess.

I thought the system updates would take care of the kernel updates and such so I have never done this before.
Is there anything I should keep in mind or is it just to hit “Install”?

Mirdarthos · 2 March 2021 13:45

You only need to decide whether you want to install it VIA command-line or GUI.

And the software update doesn’t touch you kernel, unless you have a -latest meta package kernel installed. (I think that’s the postfix. ) Which it seems you don’t, or it would’ve updated to the latest kernel.

It’s been quite some time since I’ve done it with the GUI, but IIRC you just need to click install on it. If it’s newer (the 5.10 one) then it’ll automatically be set as the default for next boot.

Hope you manage!

Edit:

And then, after you’ve rebooted go back to where you installed it from, and remove the EOL one. (5.9 in this case.)

eexxil · 2 March 2021 13:47

Thank you!
I will go for it this afternoon

Mirdarthos · 2 March 2021 13:49

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MaMicha · 2 March 2021 16:05

May I please add questions here: I’ve got the same message

“Newer kernel availeble, please update.”

but I’m running Kernel 5.10.18-1 and the only nwer one in SystemSetting list is 5.11.1-1.

Update necessary?
Where to find EOL-data for a specific kernel or the actual ones?

Thank you!

NGr · 2 March 2021 16:07

Hi,

Kernel 5.10 is LTS so you can stay on your current kernel.

You can find information on kernels at

https://www.kernel.org/

MaMicha · 2 March 2021 16:26

Thank you NGr, my questions are answered! Perfekt URL kernel.org!

eexxil · 2 March 2021 18:31

I installed the version 5.4 through the GUI tool and rebooted. But when I check the system booted back into version 5.9.16.
For some reason it did not pick the LTS version. Perhaps because it is an older version?

Mirdarthos · 2 March 2021 18:40

Indeed. That’s why I suggested 5.10.

But, no need to panic.

When you boot up the PC, right after the BIOS’ "Press key to enter BIOS… And its splash screen, press the Esc key to get the GRUB bootloaders menu screen.

Navigate to the Advanced options item with the arrow keys. Once on it, press enter.

From this menu, you should be able to select which kernel to boot into.

eexxil · 2 March 2021 18:46

Thanks again!
I managed

Mirdarthos · 2 March 2021 18:46

Very happy to hear that!

omano · 2 March 2021 18:49

My advice is to do that:

and then you install the kernel you want, and don’t think about it if you select a LTS kernel, and check periodically if it is not a LTS to see if the kernel will become EOL soon (forum announcement or Kernel.org website), in which case you install another and/or remove it.

//EDIT: I’m not sure if it is the same tool in XFCE, this is from KDE but I think this tool has different version for other desktop.

Nick1402 · 3 March 2021 21:40

Are you sure of this? Shouldn’t there be a LTS label next to it like there is with 5.4 in the GUI tool.

NGr · 3 March 2021 21:48

Positive

https://www.kernel.org/

system · 18 March 2021 21:49

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