Hi
Almost every nvidia driver update breaks my system. Timeshift saved my Manjaro installation a lot of times! 
Can I never update nvidia drivers/tools again? Please tell me how
Thanks!
You can’t1, partial updates are unsupported.
1 More precisely you can do it, but you put yourself at risk of unfulfilled dependencies and system corruption. If you still want to do it, go here. 
It seems it’s difficult to use Nvidia GPUs lately : support have been dropped for old models, and newer versions of the driver have issues in some configurations…
You better find out why your system breaks. Probably you have unsupported kernel, old driver not supported anymore or things like that. It is very unlikely that you can’t update your system anymore. You could start by providing system information, output of pacman when trying to update, things like that.
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I’m using kernel 5.4 LTS
I guess I need the propietary driver because I do modern OpenGL programming
I’ll try to keep it up to date. Thanks
[paul@gotham ~]$ inxi -Fazy
System:
Kernel: 5.4.116-1-MANJARO x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.0
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/@/boot/vmlinuz-5.4-x86_64
root=UUID=60600c65-cd66-4f46-9614-8528e08bd235 rw rootflags=subvol=@ quiet
apparmor=1 security=apparmor udev.log_priority=3
Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.21.4 tk: Qt 5.15.2 wm: kwin_x11 vt: 1 dm: SDDM
Distro: Manjaro Linux base: Arch Linux
Machine:
Type: Desktop Mobo: MSI model: Z97 GAMING 5 (MS-7917) v: 1.0
serial: <filter> UEFI: American Megatrends v: 1.9 date: 12/23/2014
CPU:
Info: Quad Core model: Intel Core i5-4460 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Haswell
family: 6 model-id: 3C (60) stepping: 3 microcode: 28 cache: L2: 6 MiB
flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
bogomips: 25607
Speed: 1400 MHz min/max: 800/3400 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1400 2: 1400
3: 1400 4: 1400
Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: Split huge pages
Type: l1tf
mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT disabled
Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT disabled
Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI
Type: spec_store_bypass
mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp
Type: spectre_v1
mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, IBPB: conditional,
IBRS_FW, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling
Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode
Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
Device-1: NVIDIA GP104 [GeForce GTX 1070] vendor: Micro-Star MSI
driver: nvidia v: 460.73.01 alternate: nouveau,nvidia_drm bus-ID: 01:00.0
chip-ID: 10de:1b81 class-ID: 0300
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 compositor: kwin_x11 driver:
loaded: nvidia display-ID: :0 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 95 s-size: 513x292mm (20.2x11.5")
s-diag: 590mm (23.2")
Monitor-1: DVI-D-0 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 96
size: 510x287mm (20.1x11.3") diag: 585mm (23")
OpenGL: renderer: GeForce GTX 1070/PCIe/SSE2 v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 460.73.01
direct render: Yes
Audio:
Device-1: Intel 9 Series Family HD Audio vendor: Micro-Star MSI
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:8ca0
class-ID: 0403
Device-2: NVIDIA GP104 High Definition Audio vendor: Micro-Star MSI
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:10f0
class-ID: 0403
Device-3: C-Media CM108 Audio Controller type: USB
driver: hid-generic,snd-usb-audio,usbhid bus-ID: 2-9:4 chip-ID: 0d8c:013c
v class-ID: 0300
Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.4.116-1-MANJARO running: yes
Sound Server-2: JACK v: 0.125.0 running: no
Sound Server-3: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: yes
Sound Server-4: PipeWire v: 0.3.26 running: no
Network:
Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros Killer E220x Gigabit Ethernet
vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: alx v: kernel port: d000 bus-ID: 03:00.0
chip-ID: 1969:e091 class-ID: 0200
IF: enp3s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 3.17 TiB used: 2.04 TiB (64.3%)
SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: PNY model: CS900 480GB SSD
size: 447.13 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s
rotation: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 0KB3 scheme: GPT
ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: Toshiba model: DT01ACA300
size: 2.73 TiB block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s
rotation: 7200 rpm serial: <filter> rev: ABB0 scheme: GPT
Partition:
ID-1: / raw-size: 111.28 GiB size: 111.28 GiB (100.00%)
used: 28.57 GiB (25.7%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/sda5 maj-min: 8:5
ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 512 MiB size: 511 MiB (99.80%)
used: 660 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/sda6 maj-min: 8:6
ID-3: /home raw-size: 146.4 GiB size: 146.4 GiB (100.00%)
used: 5.42 GiB (3.7%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/sdb2 maj-min: 8:18
Swap:
Alert: No swap data was found.
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 29.8 C mobo: 27.8 C gpu: nvidia temp: 44 C
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: nvidia fan: 0%
Info:
Processes: 217 Uptime: 2h 58m wakeups: 0 Memory: 15.59 GiB
used: 2.69 GiB (17.2%) Init: systemd v: 247 tool: systemctl Compilers:
gcc: 10.2.0 clang: 11.1.0 Packages: pacman: 1372 lib: 419 flatpak: 0
Shell: Bash v: 5.1.4 running-in: yakuake inxi: 3.3.04Hello,
Breakage is somehow expected on Laptops with Nvidia GPUs or hybrid hardware, but on a Desktop PC with
and a single monitor connected via
makes me think you are doing something wrong, but please don’t take this as offensive, or you insist on making a particular install of drivers when is not required … First hint is
you build the package yourself, as some stable announcements indicated, but you do not connect your Monitor via Display Port, that have issues with the 460.80 driver …
Also i would go with the 5.10 kernel instead of 5.4
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Hi
I´ve tried a lot of solutions from this forum
Some threads helped me fixing things, some others not
I´ve always updated my system using pacman, but recently I´m just using the pamac GUI interface
I had to try the kernel 5.4 when nvidia broke my installation (I was using 5.9 kernel back then)
None taken. I want to learn. I don´t mean to be offensive neither
I´ll give it a try, thanks!