KDE Plasma 5.26.x Stability Inquiry

Oh man. I so hope you are correct.

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I am correct, even my second install with Debian unstable/SID has no problems with the same setup ! :grin:
Cheers,

Eddy

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Hi All,

I am also experiencing similar issues with missing system tray icons etc… wondering if there is final fix for to this problem please?

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System:
  Kernel: 5.15.78-1-MANJARO arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.15-x86_64
    root=UUID=532ab3a1-b4c8-4fd4-850b-e24e86eac742 rw quiet
    udev.log_priority=3
  Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.26.3 tk: Qt v: 5.15.7 wm: kwin_x11 vt: 1 dm: SDDM
    Distro: Manjaro Linux base: Arch Linux
Machine:
  Type: Convertible System: HP product: HP ZBook Studio x360 G5 v: N/A
    serial:  Chassis: type: 31 serial: 
  Mobo: HP model: 844F v: KBC Version 16.4E.00 serial: 
    UEFI: HP v: Q71 Ver. 01.20.00 date: 03/22/2022
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 60.7 Wh (98.4%) condition: 61.7/96.4 Wh (64.0%)
    volts: 12.1 min: 11.6 model: Hewlett-Packard Primary type: Li-ion
    serial:  status: N/A cycles: 383
Memory:
  RAM: total: 31.16 GiB used: 3.5 GiB (11.2%)
  RAM Report: permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required.
CPU:
  Info: model: Intel Xeon E-2186M bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Coffee Lake
    level: v3 note: check built: 2018 process: Intel 14nm family: 6
    model-id: 0x9E (158) stepping: 0xA (10) microcode: 0xF0
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 6 tpc: 2 threads: 12 smt: enabled cache:
    L1: 384 KiB desc: d-6x32 KiB; i-6x32 KiB L2: 1.5 MiB desc: 6x256 KiB
    L3: 12 MiB desc: 1x12 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1205 high: 2200 min/max: 800/4800 scaling:
    driver: intel_pstate governor: powersave cores: 1: 1000 2: 1000 3: 1784
    4: 2200 5: 1861 6: 1021 7: 900 8: 900 9: 900 10: 900 11: 1000 12: 1000
    bogomips: 69629
  Flags: 3dnowprefetch abm acpi adx aes aperfmperf apic arat
    arch_capabilities arch_perfmon art avx avx2 bmi1 bmi2 bts clflush
    clflushopt cmov constant_tsc cpuid cpuid_fault cx16 cx8 de ds_cpl dtes64
    dtherm dts epb ept ept_ad erms est f16c flexpriority flush_l1d fma fpu
    fsgsbase fxsr ht hwp hwp_act_window hwp_epp hwp_notify ibpb ibrs ida
    intel_pt invpcid invpcid_single lahf_lm lm mca mce md_clear mmx monitor
    movbe mpx msr mtrr nonstop_tsc nopl nx pae pat pbe pcid pclmulqdq pdcm
    pdpe1gb pebs pge pln pni popcnt pse pse36 pti pts rdrand rdseed rdtscp
    rep_good sdbg sep smap smep smx ss ssbd sse sse2 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 stibp
    syscall tm tm2 tpr_shadow tsc tsc_adjust tsc_deadline_timer vme vmx vnmi
    vpid x2apic xgetbv1 xsave xsavec xsaveopt xsaves xtopology xtpr
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled
  Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT
    vulnerable
  Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI
  Type: mmio_stale_data mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable
  Type: retbleed mitigation: IBRS
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via
    prctl and seccomp
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer
    sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: IBRS, IBPB: conditional, RSB filling,
    PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected
  Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode
  Type: tsx_async_abort mitigation: TSX disabled
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Coffee Lake-S GT2 [UHD Graphics P630] vendor: Hewlett-Packard
    driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-9.5 process: Intel 14nm built: 2016-20
    ports: active: eDP-1 empty: DP-1, DP-2, HDMI-A-1, HDMI-A-2, HDMI-A-3
    bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:3e94 class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: NVIDIA GP107GLM [Quadro P1000 Mobile] vendor: Hewlett-Packard
    driver: nvidia v: 520.56.06 alternate: nouveau,nvidia_drm non-free: 520.xx+
    status: current (as of 2022-10) arch: Pascal code: GP10x process: TSMC 16nm
    built: 2016-21 pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 16 link-max: gen: 3
    speed: 8 GT/s bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:1cbb class-ID: 0300
  Device-3: Cheng Uei Precision Industry (Foxlink) HP HD Camera type: USB
    driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-7:3 chip-ID: 05c8:0808 class-ID: 0e02
    serial: 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.4 compositor: kwin_x11 driver: X:
    loaded: modesetting,nvidia alternate: fbdev,nouveau,nv,vesa dri: iris
    gpu: i915 display-ID: :0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 3840x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 1013x285mm (39.88x11.22")
    s-diag: 1052mm (41.43")
  Monitor-1: HDMI-1-0 pos: right res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 82
    size: 597x336mm (23.5x13.23") diag: 685mm (26.97") modes: N/A
  Monitor-2: eDP-1 pos: primary,left res: 1920x1080 hz: 120 dpi: 142
    size: 344x194mm (13.54x7.64") diag: 395mm (15.55") modes: N/A
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 22.2.3 renderer: Mesa Intel UHD Graphics P630 (CFL
    GT2) direct render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Cannon Lake PCH cAVS vendor: Hewlett-Packard
    driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel alternate: snd_soc_skl,snd_sof_pci_intel_cnl
    bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:a348 class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: NVIDIA GP107GL High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
    v: kernel pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 16 link-max: gen: 3
    speed: 8 GT/s bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:0fb9 class-ID: 0403
  Sound API: ALSA v: k5.15.78-1-MANJARO running: yes
  Sound Server-1: JACK v: 1.9.21 running: no
  Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 16.1 running: yes
  Sound Server-3: PipeWire v: 0.3.59 running: yes
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Cannon Lake PCH CNVi WiFi driver: iwlwifi v: kernel
    bus-ID: 00:14.3 chip-ID: 8086:a370 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlp0s20f3 state: down mac: 
  Device-2: ICS Advent USB 10/100 LAN type: USB driver: cdc_ether
    bus-ID: 1-11.2.4:11 chip-ID: 0fe6:9900 class-ID: 0a00 serial: 
  IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: half mac: 
  IP v4:  type: dynamic noprefixroute scope: global
    broadcast: 
  IP v6:  type: noprefixroute scope: link
  WAN IP: 
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Intel Bluetooth 9460/9560 Jefferson Peak (JfP) type: USB
    driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-14:12 chip-ID: 8087:0aaa class-ID: e001
  Report: rfkill ID: hci0 rfk-id: 2 state: up address: see --recommends
Logical:
  Message: No logical block device data found.
RAID:
  Message: No RAID data found.
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 480.67 GiB used: 35.67 GiB (7.4%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Samsung model: MZVLB512HAJQ-000H1
    size: 476.94 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s
    lanes: 4 type: SSD serial:  rev: EXA73H1Q temp: 40.9 C scheme: GPT
  ID-2: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 type: USB model: General USB Flash Disk
    size: 3.73 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: SSD
    serial:  rev: 1100 scheme: MBR
  SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure?
  Message: No optical or floppy data found.
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 476.64 GiB size: 468.09 GiB (98.21%) used: 35.67 GiB (7.6%)
    fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2 maj-min: 259:2 label: N/A
    uuid: 532ab3a1-b4c8-4fd4-850b-e24e86eac742
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 300 MiB size: 299.4 MiB (99.80%)
    used: 312 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1 maj-min: 259:1
    label: NO_LABEL uuid: E04A-7965
Swap:
  Alert: No swap data was found.
Unmounted:
  ID-1: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1 size: 3.32 GiB fs: iso9660
  ID-2: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2 size: 4 MiB fs: vfat label: MISO_EFI
    uuid: C80E-8B3F
USB:
  Hub-1: 1-0:1 info: Hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 16 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0002 class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 1-4:2 info: Silicon Motion - Taiwan (formerly Feiya ) Flash Drive
    type: Mass Storage driver: usb-storage interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s
    power: 500mA chip-ID: 090c:1000 class-ID: 0806 serial: 
  Device-2: 1-7:3 info: Cheng Uei Precision Industry (Foxlink) HP HD Camera
    type: Video driver: uvcvideo interfaces: 4 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s
    power: 500mA chip-ID: 05c8:0808 class-ID: 0e02 serial: 
  Device-3: 1-8:4 info: Validity Sensors type:  driver: N/A
    interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s power: 100mA chip-ID: 138a:00ab
    class-ID: ff00 serial: 
  Hub-2: 1-11:5 info: Huasheng USB2.0 HUB ports: 4 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s
    power: 100mA chip-ID: 214b:7250 class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 1-11.1:7 info: HP Optical Mouse [672662-001] type: Mouse
    driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0 speed: 1.5 Mb/s
    power: 100mA chip-ID: 03f0:094a class-ID: 0301
  Hub-3: 1-11.2:8 info: Huasheng USB2.0 HUB ports: 4 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s
    power: 100mA chip-ID: 214b:7250 class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 1-11.2.3:10 info: Super Top microSD card reader (SY-T18)
    type: Mass Storage driver: usb-storage interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s
    power: 100mA chip-ID: 14cd:1212 class-ID: 0806 serial: 
  Device-2: 1-11.2.4:11 info: ICS Advent USB 10/100 LAN
    type: Ethernet Network,CDC-Data driver: cdc_ether interfaces: 2 rev: 2.1
    speed: 480 Mb/s power: 100mA chip-ID: 0fe6:9900 class-ID: 0a00
    serial: 
  Device-3: 1-11.3:9 info: Dell KB216 Wired Keyboard type: Keyboard,HID
    driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 2 rev: 1.1 speed: 1.5 Mb/s
    power: 100mA chip-ID: 413c:2113 class-ID: 0300
  Device-4: 1-14:12 info: Intel Bluetooth 9460/9560 Jefferson Peak (JfP)
    type: Bluetooth driver: btusb interfaces: 2 rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s
    power: 100mA chip-ID: 8087:0aaa class-ID: e001
  Hub-4: 2-0:1 info: Super-speed hub ports: 10 rev: 3.1 speed: 10 Gb/s
    chip-ID: 1d6b:0003 class-ID: 0900
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 47.0 C pch: 49.0 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Info:
  Processes: 289 Uptime: 8m wakeups: 3 Init: systemd v: 251 default: graphical
  tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 clang: 14.0.6 Packages: pm: pacman
  pkgs: 1215 libs: 317 tools: pamac pm: flatpak pkgs: 0 Shell: Zsh v: 5.9
  default: Bash v: 5.1.16 running-in: konsole inxi: 3.3.23


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efibootmgr
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yakuake

Although my system is still running without a hitch, this might be related:

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Yes same here.

I am using:
KDE Plasma 5.26.3
KDE Framework 5.99.0
Kernel 5.19.17-2-MANJARO

Hardware is a Lenovo L14 Gen 1 AMD, so with Radeon Graphics inside, also Multimonitor Setup. Two external Displays, one via USB-C Hub and one via HDMI.
Have the same problems sind appr. 1-2 Weeks. Notofications go to a black rectangle and the whole Desktop seems to crash.
Is there any guide how to downgrade to something less buggy?

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Yes, there is, albeit with a couple of caveats, such as that we don’t know how much longer this will work, given that nobody’s willing to maintain the LTS release packages.

But had you read through the whole thread, then you would have already found the workaround. :arrow_down:

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Yes i have read this now, but that really doesnt look like a very appealing approach.
At least i have found out that it is possible to restart the plasmashell by posting kquitapp5 plasmashell && plasmashell into the krunner menu, so i dont have to reboot once a day.

Hope that issues get fixed quite fast by the KDE Team.

It works fine. But it won’t always, as @Aragorn mentioned.

You should report any issues with the KDE team, then. Not Manjaro:

https://bugs.kde.org/

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5.26.4 should be out on the 2022-11-29 and 5.26.5 is scheduled for the 2023-01-03. After that all attention is on 5.27.x series. So lets see how fixable 5.26.x series is. For 5.24.8 I’ve no release date found yet …

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It’s true that The Manjaro Team can only do so much, and that the rest is down to the devs that conceptualise and put together a working(stable?) desktop environment at the end of the day… :slightly_smiling_face:

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Well if you see a bug within 15 minutes in a fresh install you should report it. This most likely goes for KDE Neon or those who ship with vanilla look and feel: The 15-Minute Bug Initiative – Adventures in Linux and KDE

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Scrolling throught their bugtracker similiar problems are already files multiple times, so i can only hope that this can be resolved. I mean until a week or two ago everything was fine.

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Well - adding new regressions to “stable” versions seems to be partly a thing. Those happen sometimes also to the kernel development. So ya, we can only hope those won’t get backported to LTS versions …

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Then the more visible bugs, admittedly… otherwise the others await to de discovered later on, so to speak.

Part of the truth IMO might be that the devs probably have real life situations, too, and skip through things to meet a theoretic deadline per see the release calender and such!..?

Latest Stable Updates (2022-12-06) now pulls in KDE Frameworks 5.100.0.

Anyone want to take the risk of updating, while sticking with KDE 5.24.7 LTS?

:no_mouth:


Is this the day we finally swallow the hard, bitter pill and accept our fate?

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It would seem that way…

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I use plasma 5.24.6. I updated everything except plasma and all seems to work fine.
It is possible that bugs will appear later but for now I don´t see any problem.

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5.24.6?

Not 5.24.7?

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Just applied today’s big update, still running 5.24.7. Seems OK…so far. :slight_smile:

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