Manjaro 23.0 Uranos released

[linux-aarhus]

@Kobold

i always though that minimum ISO has alot more applications missing also

There is differences beyond that - I don’t recall exactly which - but they are minor and if you know you won’t need an office installation - there is quite a gain, with respect to size, by downloading the minimal ISO.

[Kobold]

@linux-aarhus

but they are minor

If anyone else know what other changes between Full and Min (others than office suite), would be nice to know the answer.

[linux-aarhus]

If you take the Packages-Desktop file from any iso-profile and isolate the lines starting with >extra you have the difference.

E.g. the kde plasma edition

>extra elisa
>extra filelight
>extra fwupd 
>extra gtk3-print-backends
>extra keditbookmarks
>extra manjaro-printer
>extra noto-fonts-emoji
>extra pamac-flatpak-plugin
>extra plasma-workspace-wallpapers
>extra print-manager
>extra python-pillow
>extra python-pip
>extra python-pyqt5
>extra python-pysmbc          # SMB browser support
>extra python-reportlab
>extra skanlite
>extra system-config-printer  # auto-detect the printer driver
>extra timeshift
>extra ttf-droid
>extra ttf-inconsolata
>extra ttf-indic-otf
>extra ttf-liberation
>extra vlc

See below for the full script Manjaro 23.0 Uranos released - #21 by linux-aarhus

[Kobold]

Thanks alot, are this applications somehow special intregated (pre configurated) into the full iso or just a easy and simple install from pamac UI needed?

When i look at the python and ttf stuff im lost there… i would blindly just install it, just to get sure there are not missing for something that i maybe need actually or need in the future, befor i run into issue… because its installed as default.

[D.Dave]

@Yochanan

Yes .

I found that is disabled: should I enable it?

[linux-aarhus]

@Kobold

Thanks alot, are this applications somehow special intregated (pre configurated) into the full iso or just a easy and simple install from pamac UI needed?

They are simply extra packages - you could install those using pacman or Pamac and get the same result.

Bash snippet to list the >extra packages - replace EDITION with e.g. gnome or xfce

EDITION="kde"
URL="https://gitlab.manjaro.org/profiles-and-settings/iso-profiles/-/raw/master/manjaro/${EDITION}/Packages-Desktop"
echo $(curl "${URL}" | grep -E "^>extra")

One example is print support which is a meta package pulling everything print related

@linux-aarhus

manjaro-printer

[nikgnomic]

@Kobold

i always though that minimum ISO has alot more applications missing also.

manjaro-xfce-23.0-230903-linux65.iso.pkgs lists 1037 packages
manjaro-xfce-23.0-minimal-230903-linux65.iso.pkgs lists 927 packages
so approx 10% fewer packages on minimal ISO

[Aragorn]

@D.Dave

I found that is disabled: should I enable it?

It’s not strictly necessary if you periodically refresh the files list yourself.

The new timer replaces the old pkgfile-update.timer.

[notageek]

>extra timeshift

timeshit is there in the minimal if you select ext4 during installation

[linux-aarhus]

I puffed together a script to show the difference as they are provided by master branch of the iso-profiles repo.

[root tip] [How To] Find the difference between Full and Minimal ISO

Use this as a topic to be referenced when the question is asked for 114th time. The question pops up on a frequent base - especially around ISO release. The differences is always with the packages provided for the desktop experience. Usually this includes - but not limited to - the following offline office installers (provided with the iso mhwd repo) backup utility print support scanner support media player(s) extra fonts There is only one file per ISO-profile and the packages are identi…

@notageek

■■■■■■■■ is there in the minimal if you select ext4 during installation

Yes - that is because this package depends on timeshift

timeshift-autosnap-manjaro

So rightfully that package should be tagged as >extra or the timeshift package should have the >extra tag removed.

@Yochanan could you please take a look when you have time?

[Mikelowree]

to update to this latest version , do I download the ISO then flash with etcher and boot via usb?

[notageek]

yes, check at list the 512 checksum and boot from usb
clean the previous EFI bootmgr and install the the new

[Mikelowree]

DISTRIB_ID=“ManjaroLinux”
DISTRIB_RELEASE=“23.0.0”
DISTRIB_CODENAME=“Uranos”
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION=“Manjaro Linux”

this is what im seeing right now on my laptop?

[straycat]

If your system is up to date your already on the newest version as your post is showing.

[Aragorn]

No, Manjaro is a rolling-release distribution, and so if you’re already running Manjaro and you’ve kept your system updated, then you’re already on the latest release.

If you’re not up to date yet…

sudo pacman-mirrors -f && sudo pacman -Fy && sudo pacman -Syyu

The ISO is only a snapshot, so as to make it easier for people to install without needing to update packages straight away after installing.

[Mikelowree]

Thanks for the help guys , sorry for the noob questions , mental health issues i find it hard sometimes to remember what i have learnt etc , cheers!

[notageek]

Well, the applications got updated but many things, seems to me, remains as you installed first time?
may I be wrong…

[Aragorn]

There shouldn’t be any difference if you kept your system updated, other than that you may have installed extra packages in the meantime. If you’ve kept the system up to date and have properly merged your .pacnew files, then there’s no point in reinstalling.

My system here was installed in April 2019, and I’ve never had to reinstall. That’s the whole idea behind a rolling-release distribution.

[Mikelowree]

good to know that the system will keep itself updated to any future release

[notageek]

hmmm, I was having a years old install and the timers was the same as first installation…
When I install the 22.3.1 and the 23.0.1 the timers was changed
I usually merge the new .pacfile, and keep always updated (stable) the system