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How would I force a re-install of xfce4 & xorg?

for my system (which is Arch, not Manjaro)
this would involve these packages:

pacman -Ss xorg | grep Inst
extra/xf86-input-libinput 1.2.1-1 (xorg-drivers) [Installiert]
extra/xf86-video-amdgpu 22.0.0-1 (xorg-drivers) [Installiert]
extra/xf86-video-ati 1:19.1.0.r15.g7a6a34af-1 (xorg-drivers) [Installiert]
extra/xf86-video-intel 1:2.99.917+916+g31486f40-2 (xorg-drivers) [Installiert]
extra/xorg-fonts-encodings 1.0.6-1 (xorg-fonts xorg) [Installiert]
extra/xorg-iceauth 1.0.9-1 (xorg-apps xorg) [Installiert]
extra/xorg-server 21.1.6-1 (xorg) [Installiert]
extra/xorg-server-common 21.1.6-1 (xorg) [Installiert]
extra/xorg-setxkbmap 1.3.3-1 (xorg-apps xorg) [Installiert]
extra/xorg-xauth 1.1.2-1 (xorg-apps xorg) [Installiert]
extra/xorg-xdpyinfo 1.3.3-4 (xorg-apps xorg) [Installiert]
extra/xorg-xinit 1.4.2-1 [Installiert]
extra/xorg-xinput 1.6.3-3 (xorg-apps xorg) [Installiert]
extra/xorg-xkbcomp 1.4.6-1 (xorg-apps xorg) [Installiert]
extra/xorg-xkill 1.0.6-1 (xorg-apps xorg) [Installiert]
extra/xorg-xmodmap 1.0.11-1 (xorg-apps xorg) [Installiert]
extra/xorg-xprop 1.2.6-1 (xorg-apps xorg) [Installiert]
extra/xorg-xrandr 1.5.2-1 (xorg-apps xorg) [Installiert]
extra/xorg-xrdb 1.2.1-1 (xorg-apps xorg) [Installiert]
extra/xorg-xset 1.2.5-1 (xorg-apps xorg) [Installiert]
extra/xorgproto 2022.2-1 [Installiert]

similar for xfce4

And what is the command to force a reinstall of each of those packages?

sudo pacman -S --asdeps packagename
or just
sudo pacman -S packagename

you can certainly leave out the video-xxx things that you do not even have

run the command

pacman -Ss xorg | grep Inst

and use your own list - not mine

I’d make sure to be using fresh packages - not ones already present in the pacman cache
which is in /var/cache/pacman/pkg

sudo pacman -Scc
sudo paccache -rk0

to clear the cache - to force a re-download prior to install

Unfortunately that did not help either (including cache clearing)

sudo pacman -S xf86-input-evdev xf86-input-libinput xf86-input-void xf86-video-amdgpu xf86-video-ati xf86-video-nouveau xorg-bdftopcf xorg-docs xorg-font-util xorg-fonts-100dpi xorg-fonts-75dpi xorg-fonts-alias-100dpi xorg-fonts-alias-75dpi xorg-fonts-alias-misc xorg-fonts-encodings xorg-fonts-misc xorg-iceauth xorg-mkfontscale xorg-server xorg-server-common xorg-server-devel xorg-server-xephyr xorg-server-xnest xorg-server-xvfb xorg-sessreg xorg-setxkbmap xorg-smproxy xorg-twm xorg-util-macros xorg-x11perf xorg-xauth xorg-xbacklight xorg-xcmsdb xorg-xcursorgen xorg-xdpyinfo xorg-xdriinfo xorg-xev xorg-xgamma xorg-xhost xorg-xinit xorg-xinput xorg-xkbcomp xorg-xkbevd xorg-xkbutils xorg-xkill xorg-xlsatoms xorg-xlsclients xorg-xmodmap xorg-xpr xorg-xprop xorg-xrandr xorg-xrdb xorg-xrefresh xorg-xset xorg-xsetroot xorg-xvinfo xorg-xwayland xorg-xwd xorg-xwininfo xorg-xwud xorgproto xorgproto-transfer exo garcon libxfce4ui libxfce4util mousepad thunar thunar-archive-plugin thunar-media-tags-plugin thunar-volman tumbler xfburn xfce4-appfinder xfce4-battery-plugin xfce4-clipman-plugin xfce4-cpufreq-plugin xfce4-cpugraph-plugin xfce4-dict xfce4-diskperf-plugin xfce4-fsguard-plugin xfce4-genmon-plugin xfce4-mailwatch-plugin xfce4-mount-plugin xfce4-mpc-plugin xfce4-netload-plugin xfce4-notes-plugin xfce4-notifyd xfce4-panel xfce4-power-manager xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin xfce4-screenshooter xfce4-sensors-plugin xfce4-session xfce4-settings xfce4-smartbookmark-plugin xfce4-systemload-plugin xfce4-taskmanager xfce4-terminal xfce4-time-out-plugin xfce4-timer-plugin xfce4-verve-plugin xfce4-wavelan-plugin xfce4-weather-plugin xfce4-xkb-plugin xfconf xfdesktop xfwm4 xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin 

Any other suggestions? Seems v.odd there is no error in the Xorg log or some smoke to start chasing down.

not at the current moment - sorry

@brahma seems to like these kind of problems and is very persistent and effective in solving them
from what I saw :grin:
and more knowledgeable than me as well

Ok - thx @Nachlese.

@brahma - if you have any thoughts let us know!

If its useful here is the pacman log from the first system update when things went south: pacman.log -

Nevermind - just reinstalled.

Haven’t had an update f* up like this on a linux distro in ~10 years!

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