Libreoffice UI shrunk to unreadable size

I just installed another bunch of upgrades, but before I removed a file of which I thought it’s not necessary: xwaylandvideobridge (from AUR). After that, LibreOffice showed extreme strange behaviour: the interface shrunk to an almost unreadable size. I’m not sure if that’s related to xwaylandvideobridge, but if not, what else could cause this? Anyway, after the upgrade I started Manjaro again in the hope the update would fix it, but no, LO still shows a much smaller UI than before.

Hence I tried to install xwaylandvideobridge using yay, which tells me that a key needs to be imported. Well, I allow it and get immediately the response: Reception from keyserver failed: no keyserver available.

I tried manual installation of the required key, no luck. Then I tried to install the key as root, and it worked fine. However, the installation of xwaylandvideobridge still doesn’t work, because the key is in root’s wallet and not in mine. Internet connection is fine, and I haven’t changed anything except for removing that software before the upgrade.

I know this is more or less off topic, but I feel it’s still related because screen resolution etc. seem all be messed up to a certain extent (particularly with LO) since I installed the second monitor. If you wish, I can open a new topic for this.

I moved this to a new topic, feel free to improve upon the title.

I’ve posted it under AUR for now, as you mentioned xwaylandvideobridge, however I suspect it may be a red herring. :man_shrugging:

I’ve never even heard of xwaylandvideobridge, and my LibreOffice is fine. You shouldn’t need it.

Do you mean the UI elements are smaller, if so then it may be scaling related.

Can you describe it better or post a screenshot so we can see what you’re talking about.

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I also fail to see how the removal of xwaylandvideobridge could be causing the issue. It was designed for sharing Wayland screens with X11 applications that are running under Xwayland. In early 2023, there were still a lot of commonly-used X11 applications that had not yet been made Wayland-compatible, so the xwaylandvideobridge was meant to be a stopgap measure to deal with the issue until developers got on board with Wayland (which rapidly accelerated after Fedora announced they would make Wayland the default session for Plasma).

I remember posting about the xwaylandvideobridge well over 2 years ago:

The original announcement of xwaylandvideobridge:

According to System / XWayland Video Bridge · GitLab:

This project is archived. Its data is read-only.

So it is no longer under active development, with the last update being 7 months ago.

My view is that @dmt’s suggestion about Plasma’s scaling being the cause of the issue should be looked at first.

I do also wonder if the issue could be related to the version of libreoffice installed on @DrMartinus system: libreoffice-fresh or libreoffice-still? However, my knowledge of libreoffice is non-existent as I don’t use any office applications, so that may have nothing to do with the issue.

Also possible as a cause, having casually monitored their other thread relating to monitors over the past few days, is that some KDE/Plasma packages might still be missing from their system. @DrMartinus had to manually install kscreen, which should have already been on their system as it is included in the plasma package group:

Output of pacman -Qg plasma
pacman -Qg plasma 
plasma aurorae
plasma bluedevil
plasma breeze
plasma breeze-gtk
plasma kactivitymanagerd
plasma kde-cli-tools
plasma kde-gtk-config
plasma kdecoration
plasma kdeplasma-addons
plasma kglobalacceld
plasma kinfocenter
plasma kmenuedit
plasma kpipewire
plasma kscreen
plasma kscreenlocker
plasma ksshaskpass
plasma ksystemstats
plasma kwallet-pam
plasma kwayland
plasma kwin
plasma kwrited
plasma layer-shell-qt
plasma libkscreen
plasma libksysguard
plasma libplasma
plasma milou
plasma ocean-sound-theme
plasma plasma-activities
plasma plasma-activities-stats
plasma plasma-browser-integration
plasma plasma-desktop
plasma plasma-integration
plasma plasma-nm
plasma plasma-pa
plasma plasma-systemmonitor
plasma plasma-thunderbolt
plasma plasma-welcome
plasma plasma-workspace
plasma plasma-workspace-wallpapers
plasma plasma5support
plasma polkit-kde-agent
plasma powerdevil
plasma print-manager
plasma qqc2-breeze-style
plasma sddm-kcm
plasma spectacle
plasma systemsettings
plasma xdg-desktop-portal-kde

So, maybe some other packages from the plasma group are still missing.

Try reinstalling the complete plasma group:

sudo pacman -Syu plasma

Reboot and see if that fixes the issue. If it doesn’t, there could be other package groups associated with Plasma still missing some of their packages. My guess for the most likely would be KDE’s Frameworks (the kf6 group), so it wouldn’t do any harm to ensure that everything from that group is installed too:

sudo pacman -Syu kf6
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Sorry for not replying earlier. I did that, I missed to count how many packages were newly installed, it seemed that most were just reinstalled. Anyway, after a restart LO still looks the same. It’s LO-still.

From kf6 it seems that 4 packages are missing:

kdav, kimageformats, kpeople, kplotting.

I will restart now and see how it is then.

I made a screenshot, but that doesn’t really help, because it can give the impression that everything is fine. There is no way to display in a screenshot the actual size of images etc. The thing is, when I open a document, if it’s set to 100% magnification (i.e. original), I can’t read it. I have to magnify it to 200%, then it becomes readable. Earlier, 100% was ok, though sometimes I chose to enhance magnification to 120%, which is then for me very comfortable.

Now, imagine the menu (Files, Edit etc.) are all written in 100% ratio, the icons in relation to this are written in maybe 25%. Every dialogbox is equally reduced to 25% (while the size of the box, i.e. length and height, is like the one it used to be when everything was displayed at 100%, so there is plenty of empty room). Well, I restart my machine and let you know if the full installation of kf6 changed anything.

On the chance that the issue might be with LibreOffice itself, try installing libreoffice-fresh to see it the issue persists.

sudo pacman -S libreoffice-fresh

You will be prompted to remove libreoffice-still in the process; choose y.

This will serve to rule out LibreOffice as the culprit and can be reverted at any time in the same fashion.

Regards.

After the restart, LO still behaves exactly as before, the installation of plasma and kf6 hasn’t had any effect. It strikes me that every other software works just fine, only LO does not. Very strange… (oh, BTW, OpenOffice is fine, too…).

Regarding xwaylandvideobridge, I have no intention to reinstall it. It just was the only piece of software that I consciously removed before I restarted the PC and found out the strange behaviour of LO.

I tried that, no change. I replaced libreoffice-still and libreoffice-fresh with each other, both behave the same way.

It was a longshot, but ruled out, it is.

My guess is that it’s a general scaling issue. If you go to;

System SettingsInput & OutputDisplay & MonitorDisplay Configuration;

How is your scaling configured? As an example, with my settings (following) I have no such issue:

  • Scale: 100%
  • Legacy applications (X11): :white_check_mark: Apply scaling themselves

Note that I’m using Wayland, AMD graphics, 1080p display. :eyes:


As always, your system information is requested.

inxi -zv8
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Ok, that was a good suggestion. The point was the “Apply scaling themselves”. That was set to “Apply scaling by the system” (or similar). After changing that and restarting LO, LO appears as it should.

It’s strange that those things change on their own, probably because of some upgrade. Well, I consider it solved for the time being.

Thanks a lot for your immediate help!

I just noticed that the virtual desktop switcher has suffered. It doesn’t show any longer the windows that are active on the various virtual desktops. I believe it displayed them until I made that change, but I am not sure. Well, I have to do other things right now, and this is another topic. If it doesn’t resolve itself with the next restart, I’ll start a new thread…

Hm, I just restarted the PC, because LO started behaving erratically (documents weren’t sized properly, there were remnants of another display of the document left in spaces that actually shouldn’t display anything, etc.), I thought that would solve these new issues. After restart, the old problem is back, I checked the system settings, they weren’t changed.

Anyway, I try to work with that now, because the work is more important than getting the display right at the moment.

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So strange as to render the possibility virtually impossible; but it’s good to know the issue is resolved.


It is customary – in fact, almost always required – that you mark a post that helped the most as the solution to a given topic; this allows others with the same (or similar) issue to easily find the resolution, if relevant.

You have been reminded of this a few times in other topics – please remember to tend to this as a courtesy for others, and to allow a topic to close automatically as a matter of course.

I have marked the solution post for you, in this instance.

No charge. :wink:

I apologize for not doing it right with the solution thing. I am still struggling with this forum software, and my memory isn’t working like that of a computer any more, I tend to forget things. Sorry!

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