Leading zero missing from the hours + weather station update issue

I recently changed from Windows to Linux so I have tons of questions but let’s start from the two issues I encountered today.

I noticed that leading zero is missing from the hours (default digital clock widget). It’'s, however, correctly in the minutes so I dont quite understand the logic. I have tried to fix it by editing the ‘fi_FI’ locale file with no avail. Anything else I could try?

The another problem is the weather widget (also default widget). Every time I start up my PC or reboot it, there’s a questionmark instead of the weather information. The drop down window says “unable to load weather forecast”. I have to manually type the city every time. Any fix for that problem? This is an important widget/information to me since I don’t have a thermometer outside the window so I hope this can be fixed.

I’m slightly confused now - because hours does not need a leading digit.

  • 7:02 is correct, and favoured for being clear and clean in appearance.

  • 07:02 is superfluous, and generally only required as a specific preference.

  • 7:2 would be clearly wrong, so minutes MUST have the leading zero.

However, you can change the format between 12, 24, and Regional Defaults (you can no longer type in your string for the format).

As far as the weather widget is concerned, I have only two comments:

The weather widget will never tell you the temperature as a thermometer outside your window can. Furthermore, the ‘location entry’ for the plasmoid really sucked - unless you live in a major city it fails to pull up any locations which I can type in there… the nearest being more than 20km away in a climate where weather and temperature can vary significantly for every 2km you travel.

Basically, Weather Widgets are - at best - nothing more than a novelty item and I would suggest you configure your extreme weather and air quality warnings via your mobile phone instead.

Currently Weather Master tells me it’s 32 outside (and yes, I can confirm it’s pretty hot already) ‘Feels like 37’ because it’s humid.

The Weather widget says ‘Weather from BBC’ and reports the temperature at a reasonable ‘28’ - which is ridiculous, and would not feel either warm or cool when walking outside.

For this purpose, I actually purchased my own digital thermometer with two probes, one of which is outside.

Manjaro is not going to be in a position to fix plasmoids (as this is the Plasma desktop) and you’d do better to bring that up in the KDE forum https://discuss.kde.org/ and/or file a bug.

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I think @Ben covered your clock question pretty well.

As for the weather widget, I suspect it may have to do with the weather provider, for myself I use Environment Canada and I don’t have any issues such as you described. If I were you I’d try a different provider if possible.

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This is true - you need to find out what different widgets use as their backend.

For example, on WeatherUnderground I can find a couple of local stations - one at the Suvannabhumi airport, another at Bang Phli Yai area and there’s a weather station at BangChalong - yet they don’t appear in the plasma widget’s search.

However, searching for ‘London’ sees a TON of results - using Environment Canada, BBC, and many many others.

However, re-reading - that wasn’t the issue. The issue was that the plasmoid seems to forget the location on reboot… and I haven’t tested that (I didn’t reboot for more than a week now).

For the time display issue, I always have mine set to 24Hr and the leading zero is always there; I prefer it that way as it’s a “placeholder” (nor did I ever really “get” the idea of 2x12Hr; a numbering system that starts at 12 and finishes at 11:59 for example).

As for the weather station stuff; I guess you tried other sources for the weather data? The one I started out with became unreliable; switched back once they fixed it.

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Thanks for the answers. I’m so used to having a leading zero in the hour too, as it has always come automatically with the region settings in Windows and Mac OS. By the way, when I add HH:mm after the date code in the widget settings, then the region settings add a leading zero to the hour. If the widget settings had a ‘Disable clock’ option, that would have solved the problem.

Maybe I’ll remove that weather widget then. I couldn’t find anywhere option to change the provider to try to fix the update problem. Even though the weather station is a few miles away from my location, it has, at least so far, shown the same information as the local provider in the weather app on my phone.

:slight_smile:

Look out the window to know the weather - one can often deduce from the sky how it is going to behave.

Unfortunately, this studio apartment has only one window and outside it there’s a large covered terrace and a high hedge :slight_smile:

Welcome to the forum! :vulcan_salute:

I would advise enabling (i.e. uncommenting) the en_GB.UTF-8 locale in /etc/locale.gen and running… :point_down:

sudo locale-gen

After that, set LC_TIME to en_GB.UTF-8 in both /etc/locale.conf and /etc/default/locale, and reboot. Then, in Plasma, set the time format of the clock to British English.

I’m afraid I don’t have any answer to that. I’ve had problems with that widget myself in the past — I don’t remember what problems they were — so I’m not using it. My phone has a weather widget, and I either way always consult the headlines on Google News first thing when arriving at the keyboard, and that will tell me as well.

Ultimately, as a fallback, I also have windows. No, not the (attempt at an) operating system by that name — I really, really, really don’t have any need for that piece of digital poop :grin: — but rather the silicium-based panes at the front and rear of my apartment. :stuck_out_tongue:

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