hi, I just updated my system recently
there is a problem. some programs (like libre office, kdenlive) take a long time to launch, like 3 or 4 minutes, i have no idea whats wrong with my system, any idea?
Use NVME.
Period.
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Sorry, I’ve just misplaced my crystal ball. 
By the way, inxi -Fza is your and our friend.
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Did you install a lot of fonts ?
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How much space do you have left on your storage? Particularly / — you might need to clean up some old cached Pacman packages, for example. 
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Not enough RAM in your machine, perhaps?
Without any information to go on, our guess is only as good as yours. 
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Just another post asking for system info.
Though I would say the preferred default should be;
inxi -Farz
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I think your request will be in vain. The OP has never posted system info in their previous 9 support requests, apart from mentioning they use XFCE.
With insufficient data, you might have to take your best shot at a solution:
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System:
Kernel: 6.6.54-2-MANJARO arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 14.2.1
clocksource: tsc avail: hpet,acpi_pm
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.6-x86_64
root=UUID=038c19e6-aa23-43d7-95fb-1a5dbaea9c41 rw quiet apparmor=1
security=apparmor udev.log_priority=3
Desktop: Xfce v: 4.18.1 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.43 wm: xfwm4 v: 4.18.0
with: xfce4-panel tools: light-locker vt: 7 dm: LightDM v: 1.32.0
Distro: Manjaro base: Arch Linux
Graphics:
Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.14 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.4
compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.18.0 driver: X: loaded: modesetting,radeon
alternate: fbdev,vesa dri: crocus,r600 gpu: i915 display-ID: :0.0
screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1366x768 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 361x203mm (14.21x7.99")
s-diag: 414mm (16.31")
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 1.14 TiB used: 882.4 GiB (75.8%)
SMART Message: Required tool smartctl not installed. Check --recommends
ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 870 EVO 500GB
size: 465.76 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s
tech: SSD serial: <filter> fw-rev: 1B6Q scheme: MBR
ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: Hitachi model: ***
size: 698.64 GiB block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s
tech: HDD rpm: 7200 serial: <filter> fw-rev: A0E0 scheme: MBR
Partition:
ID-1: / raw-size: 250 GiB size: 245.02 GiB (98.01%) used: 89.69 GiB (36.6%)
fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1
Swap:
Alert: No swap data was found.
Repos:
Packages: 1792 pm: pacman pkgs: 1658 libs: 464 tools: octopi,pamac
pm: flatpak pkgs: 117 pm: snap pkgs: 17
Active pacman repo servers in: /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
1: https://mirror.telepoint.bg/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
2: https://manjaro.mirror.garr.it/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
3: https://mirror.2degrees.nz/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
4: http://mirror.terrahost.no/linux/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
5: https://codingflyboy.mm.fcix.net/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
6: https://mirror.phoepsilonix.love/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
7: https://mirror.xenyth.net/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
8: https://gsl-syd.mm.fcix.net/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
9: https://muug.ca/mirror/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
10: http://ossmirror.mycloud.services/os/linux/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
11: https://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
12: http://mirror.datacenter.by/pub/mirrors/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
13: https://ridgewireless.mm.fcix.net/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
14: https://mirror.funami.tech/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
15: https://mirror.netcologne.de/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
16: https://volico.mm.fcix.net/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
17: https://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
18: https://ask4.mm.fcix.net/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
19: https://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
20: https://mirror.archlinux.tw/Manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
21: https://repo.ialab.dsu.edu/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
22: https://forksystems.mm.fcix.net/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
23: https://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
24: https://mirrors.cicku.me/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
25: https://mirrors.ustc.edu.cn/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
26: https://mirrors.dotsrc.org/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
27: https://mirror.albony.xyz/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
28: http://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
29: https://mirror.alpix.eu/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
30: https://southfront.mm.fcix.net/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
31: https://manjaro.mirror.wearetriple.com/stable/$repo/$arch
32: http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/linux/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
33: https://mirrors.gigenet.com/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
34: https://mirror.truenetwork.ru/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
35: https://opencolo.mm.fcix.net/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
36: http://ftp.dei.uc.pt/pub/linux/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
37: https://mirrors.jlu.edu.cn/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
38: https://mirror.futureweb.be/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
39: https://linorg.usp.br/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
40: https://mirror.zetup.net/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
41: https://mirrors.xtom.jp/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
42: https://ftp.psnc.pl/linux/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
43: http://mirror.fcix.net/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
44: https://mirror.kamtv.ru/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
45: https://ipng.mm.fcix.net/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
46: https://ftp.lysator.liu.se/pub/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
47: http://mirror.xeonbd.com/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
48: https://ftp.linux.org.tr/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
49: http://manjaro.mirrors.uk2.net/stable/$repo/$arch
50: https://manjaro.kurdy.org/stable/$repo/$arch
51: https://mirror1.sox.rs/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
52: https://mirror.raiolanetworks.com/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
53: https://manjaro.mirrors.lavatech.top/stable/$repo/$arch
54: https://mnvoip.mm.fcix.net/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
55: https://uvermont.mm.fcix.net/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
56: https://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
57: https://edgeuno-bog2.mm.fcix.net/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
58: http://manjaro.grena.ge/stable/$repo/$arch
59: https://mirrors.sonic.net/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
60: http://ftp.tsukuba.wide.ad.jp/Linux/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
61: https://nnenix.mm.fcix.net/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
62: https://mirror.kku.ac.th/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
63: https://manjaro.c3sl.ufpr.br/stable/$repo/$arch
64: https://mirrors.ocf.berkeley.edu/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
65: https://mirrors2.manjaro.org/stable/$repo/$arch
66: https://irltoolkit.mm.fcix.net/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
67: https://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/repo.manjaro.org/repos/stable/$repo/$arch
68: https://mirror.init7.net/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
69: https://mirror.bouwhuis.network/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
70: https://mirror.23m.com/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
71: https://ct.mirror.garr.it/mirrors/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
72: https://ohioix.mm.fcix.net/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
73: https://nocix.mm.fcix.net/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
74: https://mirror.easyname.at/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
75: https://fosszone.csd.auth.gr/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
76: https://manjaro.ipacct.com/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
77: https://mirrors.sjtug.sjtu.edu.cn/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
78: https://mirror.koddos.net/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
79: https://fastmirror.pp.ua/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
80: https://manjaro.repo.cure.edu.uy/stable/$repo/$arch
81: http://mirror.is.co.za/mirrors/manjaro.org/stable/$repo/$arch
82: https://manjaro.mirror.liquidtelecom.com/stable/$repo/$arch
83: http://kartolo.sby.datautama.net.id/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
84: https://mirror.alwyzon.net/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
85: https://ziply.mm.fcix.net/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
86: http://ftp.free.org/mirrors/repo.manjaro.org/repos/stable/$repo/$arch
87: https://mirror.freedif.org/Manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
88: https://ba.mirror.garr.it/mirrors/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
89: https://cofractal-ewr.mm.fcix.net/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
90: https://mirrors.manjaro.org/repo/stable/$repo/$arch
91: https://mirrors.xtom.de/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
92: http://ftp.rz.tu-bs.de/pub/mirror/manjaro.org/repos/stable/$repo/$arch
93: https://mirror.ufro.cl/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
94: https://mirror.ufam.edu.br/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
95: https://quantum-mirror.hu/mirrors/pub/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
96: https://manjaro.ynh.ovh/stable/$repo/$arch
97: https://mirrors.xtom.ee/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
98: https://coresite.mm.fcix.net/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
99: https://mirror.yandex.ru/mirrors/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
100: https://mirror.dkm.cz/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
101: https://mirror.it4i.cz/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
102: https://mirrors.up.pt/pub/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
103: https://mirror.ibakerserver.pt/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
104: https://ftpmirror1.infania.net/mirror/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
105: https://mirrors.nic.cz/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
106: http://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
107: https://ftp.caliu.cat/pub/distribucions/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
108: https://manjarolinux-mirror.cloud.mu/stable/$repo/$arch
109: https://mirror.leitecastro.com/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
110: https://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
Info:
Memory: total: 8 GiB available: 7.69 GiB used: 2.21 GiB (28.7%)
Processes: 202 Power: uptime: 9m states: freeze,mem,disk suspend: deep
avail: s2idle wakeups: 0 hibernate: platform avail: shutdown, reboot,
suspend, test_resume image: 3.06 GiB services: upowerd,xfce4-power-manager
Init: systemd v: 256 default: graphical tool: systemctl
Compilers: clang: 18.1.8 gcc: 14.2.1 Shell: Bash v: 5.2.37
running-in: xfce4-terminal inxi: 3.3.36
Are you maybe running out of RAM from time to time due to missing swap?
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no
top - 21:38:12 up 22 min, 2 users, load average: 0.74, 1.15, 0.87
Tasks: 199 total, 1 running, 198 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie
%Cpu(s): 5.0 us, 3.0 sy, 0.0 ni, 91.3 id, 0.1 wa, 0.3 hi, 0.2 si, 0.0 st
MiB Mem : 7877.1 total, 4141.3 free, 2429.1 used, 1835.1 buff/cache
MiB Swap: 0.0 total, 0.0 free, 0.0 used. 5447.9 avail Mem
I have 4 gig free
Anyway, I would recommend to establish a swap partition or swap file, it’s pretty good documented in the wiki how to do so.
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Yes 
And please 
for SSD 870 EVO
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Don’t let the usage percentage fool you. The memory may not be in use by applications, but it is still being used for caching and buffering, and with only 8 GiB of RAM and no swap, the system isn’t going to be doing a whole lot of caching, which does have an impact on performance.
Likewise, with little or no space fore buffering, all write operations will be very slow, and given that I/O is uninterruptible, any write operation will pause the execution of other processes.
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so why does it happen like only running libreoffice and not wps office?
I do not have or use WPS Office, and I rarely ever fire up LibreOffice, but it might be related to their respective memory footprint. LibreOffice is quite a heavyweight.
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What is your output of
pacman -Qs xdg-desktop
Make sure to uninstall xdg-desktop-portal-gnome and xdg-desktop-portal-kde if they show up.
The only one useful is xdg-desktop-portal and xdg-desktop-portal-gtk in your case.
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This, and when RAM runs low, stuff has to be “dumped” by the system to free space when you try to open something else.
Only so many biscuits will fit in the tin, so to speak. No headroom and something has to give way. At least that’s the way I understand it.
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