Kernel 6 stability inquiry

Using Manjaro unstable, KDE Plasma Wayland

testing kernels 60 and 61rc5, just changin kernels, rest of the system is the same

Results kernel 60: system buggy, slow, plasma restarts randomly, activities take up to 30 seconds to change, graphical bugs in several applications (brave, teams, onlyoffice)

Results kernel 61: system faster, no plasma restart so far, activities change in less than 1 second, no more graphical bugs so far

Is this happening to others?

good to hear, 6.1.x will be next LTS :wink:

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luckily not! :slight_smile: (using stable XFCE)

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β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ   Host: MS-7C84 1.0 
β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ            β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ   Kernel: 6.0.8-1-MANJARO 
β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ   Uptime: 4 days, 15 hours, 42 mins 
β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ   Packages: 1888 (pacman), 9 (snap) 
β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ   Shell: zsh 5.9 
β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ   Resolution: 2560x1440, 1920x1080, 1920x1200, 1920x1080 
β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ   DE: Xfce 4.16 
β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ   WM: Xfwm4 
β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ   WM Theme: Matcha-dark-azul 
β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ   Theme: Matcha-dark-azul [GTK2/3] 
β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ   Icons: elementary-xfce-darker [GTK2], ePapirus [GTK3] 
                               Terminal: xfce4-terminal 
                               Terminal Font: Hack 10 
                               CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X (32) @ 3.400GHz 
                               GPU: AMD ATI Radeon RX Vega 56/64 
                               Memory: 18989MiB / 32020MiB 

only new β€œproblem” I had, was some intel bluetooth driver errors on machine boot, which didn’t prevent the bluetooth even from working:

Summary
nov   14 23:17:49 Zen kernel: Bluetooth: Core ver 2.22
nov   14 23:17:49 Zen kernel: Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized
nov   14 23:17:49 Zen kernel: Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized
nov   14 23:17:49 Zen kernel: Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer initialized
nov   14 23:17:49 Zen kernel: Bluetooth: SCO socket layer initialized
nov   14 23:17:49 Zen kernel: Bluetooth: hci0: Found device firmware: intel/ibt-20-1-3.sfi
nov   14 23:17:49 Zen kernel: Bluetooth: hci0: Boot Address: 0x24800
nov   14 23:17:49 Zen kernel: Bluetooth: hci0: Firmware Version: 106-39.22
nov   14 23:17:49 Zen kernel: Bluetooth: hci0: FW download error recovery failed (-19)
nov   14 23:17:49 Zen kernel: Bluetooth: hci0: sending frame failed (-19)
nov   14 23:17:49 Zen kernel: Bluetooth: hci0: Failed to read MSFT supported features (-19)
nov   14 23:17:49 Zen kernel: Bluetooth: BNEP (Ethernet Emulation) ver 1.3
nov   14 23:17:49 Zen kernel: Bluetooth: BNEP filters: protocol multicast
nov   14 23:17:49 Zen kernel: Bluetooth: BNEP socket layer initialized
nov   14 23:17:50 Zen kernel: Bluetooth: hci0: Bootloader revision 0.3 build 0 week 24 2017
nov   14 23:17:50 Zen kernel: Bluetooth: hci0: Device revision is 1
nov   14 23:17:50 Zen kernel: Bluetooth: hci0: Secure boot is enabled
nov   14 23:17:50 Zen kernel: Bluetooth: hci0: OTP lock is enabled
nov   14 23:17:50 Zen kernel: Bluetooth: hci0: API lock is enabled
nov   14 23:17:50 Zen kernel: Bluetooth: hci0: Debug lock is disabled
nov   14 23:17:50 Zen kernel: Bluetooth: hci0: Minimum firmware build 1 week 10 2014
nov   14 23:17:50 Zen kernel: Bluetooth: hci0: Found device firmware: intel/ibt-20-1-3.sfi
nov   14 23:17:50 Zen kernel: Bluetooth: hci0: Boot Address: 0x24800
nov   14 23:17:50 Zen kernel: Bluetooth: hci0: Firmware Version: 106-39.22
nov   14 23:17:51 Zen kernel: Bluetooth: hci0: Waiting for firmware download to complete
nov   14 23:17:51 Zen kernel: Bluetooth: hci0: Firmware loaded in 1318166 usecs
nov   14 23:17:51 Zen kernel: Bluetooth: hci0: Waiting for device to boot
nov   14 23:17:51 Zen kernel: Bluetooth: hci0: Device booted in 14622 usecs
nov   14 23:17:51 Zen kernel: Bluetooth: hci0: Malformed MSFT vendor event: 0x02
nov   14 23:17:51 Zen kernel: Bluetooth: hci0: Found Intel DDC parameters: intel/ibt-20-1-3.ddc
nov   14 23:17:51 Zen kernel: Bluetooth: hci0: Applying Intel DDC parameters completed
nov   14 23:17:51 Zen kernel: Bluetooth: hci0: Firmware revision 0.3 build 106 week 39 2022
nov   14 23:17:51 Zen kernel: Bluetooth: MGMT ver 1.22
nov   14 23:17:51 Zen kernel: Bluetooth: hci0: Bad flag given (0x1) vs supported (0x0)
nov   14 23:17:51 Zen kernel: Bluetooth: hci0: Bad flag given (0x1) vs supported (0x0)

I am using kernel 6.0.8 on a KDE, stable system.
No problems.

linux60 sadly not stable for me:

Nov 19 17:21:27 BlackBox kernel: amdgpu: Move buffer fallback to memcpy unavailable
Nov 19 17:21:27 BlackBox kernel: amdgpu 0000:0b:00.0: amdgpu: 00000000c8e91373 pin failed
Nov 19 17:21:27 BlackBox kernel: [drm:dm_plane_helper_prepare_fb [amdgpu]] *ERROR* Failed to pin framebuffer with error -19

I stay on linux515 until linux61 is stable/lts

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β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ   OS: Manjaro Linux x86_64 
β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ   Kernel: 5.15.78-1-MANJARO 
β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ            β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ   Uptime: 5 mins 
β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ   Packages: 1250 (pacman), 9 (flatpak) 
β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ   Shell: zsh 5.9 
β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ   Resolution: 1920x1080 
β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ   DE: Xfce 4.16 
β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ   WM: Xfwm4 
β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ   WM Theme: Matcha-sea 
β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ   Theme: Matcha-dark-sea [GTK2/3] 
β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ   Icons: Papirus-Maia [GTK2], Adwaita [GTK3] 
β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ   Terminal: xfce4-terminal 
                               Terminal Font: Monospace 12 
                               CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X (24) @ 4.000GHz 
                               GPU: AMD ATI Radeon RX 5600 OEM/5600 XT / 5700/5 
                               Memory: 2881MiB / 32008MiB 

stable on my end

β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ   johanides@johanides-manjaro 
β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ   --------------------------- 
β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ   OS: Manjaro Linux x86_64 
β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ   Host: B550 AORUS ELITE 
β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ            β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ   Kernel: 6.0.9-1-MANJARO 
β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ   Uptime: 15 mins 
β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ   Packages: 1273 (pacman) 
β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ   Shell: bash 5.1.16 
β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ   Resolution: 2560x1440 
β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ   DE: GNOME 43.1 
β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ   WM: Mutter 
β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ   WM Theme: Adwaita 
β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ   Theme: adw-gtk3-dark [GTK2/3] 
β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ  β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ   Icons: Papirus-Dark-Maia [GTK2/3] 
                               Terminal: gnome-terminal 
                               CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X (16) @ 4.851GHz 
                               GPU: AMD ATI Radeon RX Vega 56/64 
                               Memory: 1797MiB / 15899MiB

I do not experience any of that on my end when using kernel 6.0.6, yet I am also on KDE/Plasma LTS 5.24.7. :wink:

No noticeable difference between 5.15 and 6.0 for me.


β€œ____ stability inquiry” is going to become a meme that @Aragorn accidentally started. :grin:

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so I will go w/ linux61 when its out :point_up:

Kernels are for hardware support. New kernels enable new hardware to function. Looking at your hardware, I dont see any newer hardware. New kernels also introduce new bugs sometimes. I recommend you try the 5.15 LTS (long term support) kernel and see if the problem remains. In any event keep at least two kernels installed.

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Using LTS Kernel is always a good choice.

I am using kernel 6.0.8-1 with no issues. What I look for is whether a kernel resumes from sleep which is important to me. No issues with that either. FIY, I am using it with the Nouveau driver and x-11.

Im using unstable branch, that means I’m tester by nature, so being tester, i perform tests :wink:

You know, installing opencl-amd and opencl-amd-dev from AUR has been a lifesaver for me

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I don’t want to install these AUR packages…
I can wait :smiley:

Logs or it didn’t happen. Please see [HowTo] Request support

Possibly placebo just because you rebooted.

The consensus is the latest stable kernel is actually stable. This thread is not productive.

If you actually need help with a specific issue, please create a new #support thread.

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