What I mean is that whatever broke suspend in 5.16 will likely eventually be ported to 5.15.
That would suck.
Another experiment: new partition, same drive, fresh install of manjaro w/ 5.16 kernel. suspend and resume work fine. So thereâs some gremlin in my main work partition. So, Iâll eventually migrate my apps to the fresh install if I have to.
Such a thing did in fact happen. Itâs resolved in 5.17-rc7, and hopefully the fix will again be backported to 5.15 and 5.16. Currently, the latest 5.15 and 5.16 kernels (via Manjaroâs stable updates) have inherited this nasty backported bug.
Those on a fresh install of Manjaro (from ISO) or who havenât yet updated, are spared from the s2idle / suspend bug.
Migrated and done with this bug. Iâm marking it answered, as it now seems clear that for me, at least, the problem was due to something in my old installation that couldnât cope with 5.16. The fresh install suspends and resumes fine on both 5.15 and 5.16. My old work partition was showing other problems too. Iâm keeping it around in case I want to bang my head against that wall some more.
Fresh install plus updates?
What is the current kernel youâre running on precisely?
uname -r
Fresh install all stable updates, kernel 5.16.14-1-MANJARO
Looks like youâre on the newer kernels then (which have the fix.)
The Stable Updates were released recently.
Fresh install? Youâre safe.
Fully updated with latest kernels? Youâre safe. (5.15.28 and 5.16.14)
Those affected were âcaught in betweenâ.
They were on updated packages, which pulled in kernels that had the backported âfixâ (really, âbugâ) that broke suspend for some laptop users. However, they werenât updated enough, since the Manjaro Stable Updates hadnât yet been released which contain the fixed kernels. (5.15.28 and 5.16.14 )
well, the work machine was on unstable and had the problem with every 5.16 kernel , and the new machine didnât have the problem with any 5.16 kernel I used (11,12, now 14). I donât believe the broken machine will be fixed by the new kernel, but will test it when I get time.
That would be interesting to see. For the other machine, update it so that it uses 5.15.28+ or 5.16.14+, and then reboot. (Or even 5.17-rc7)
If not, then you might have been facing yet another different bug.
all 5.15 kernels work fine on the âbrokenâ machine including 5.15.28.
So the broken machine isnât really âbrokenâ anymore, right?
The physical machine is fine. The âworkâ system on a separate partition was initially broken only in that suspend/resume didnât work with kernel 5.16.x (but worked fine with 5.15.x). Then other issues started appearing beyond the 5.16.x suspend problem, e.g., oxygen window decorations broke shade/unshade, then Firefox started showing blank pages on some web sites. I donât know what I did to break it (I installed several applications from source code, like the python3 operable zenmap), and decided to give up trying to fix it. The âbrokenâ âworkâ system is now on a partition that I only mount when I need to get some old data.
I installed a fresh version of Manjaro on another partition of the same nvme drive, reinstalled all the apps I need and everything works fine. I havenât tested the âbrokenâ system since I finished setting up the new one.
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