Dear friends,
recently, I buy a new computer because the older one is too heavy, and I decide to make it dual boot with windows11 or maybe further triple boot with windows11 and endeavouros, my personal expectation is to further run hyperland as the desktop environment.
But I encounter some problems when I am trying to boot into the proprietary mode when I get into the live session of the usb boot, which, I reckon that, is due to the incompatibility of nvidia graphic card or the newest amd cpu (since I have my previous asus computer with intel i9 and rtx 4060 installed manjaro linux successfully and I have used manjaro for about half a year).
any suggestions of how I can install manjaro linux with kde6 desktop properly and further head into hyperland?
cpu:
AMD Ryzen™ AI 9 HX 370
graphic card:
NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 4060
it is the newest laptop of asus tuf gaming.
the current situation is, when I boot into the prorpietary mode of the usb live session, it goes properly with the logo shining, then go black screen. for the open source mode, it can enter the live session and download properly, but when i do sudo pacman -Syu, it install some nvidia stuff and then reboot, things will go black screen again. 
Or should I wait for next release and such problem will be solved?
I reckon this is your sole objective.
Please elaborate what were you trying to download.
And why were you downloading stuff onto a live media, when your sole objective is to install Manjaro?
The installation of Manjaro is simple:
- You download Manjaro ISO onto a USB disk, using Ventoy or other tools to make it bootable.
- You configure the motherboard to turn off
Secure Boot, and set the USB disk as first boot.- You select the ISO to install, and after booting into the live media, launch the installer, and choose Open Source driver.
- Follow on-screen instructions.
- That’s all.
You do not need NVidia driver, as open source driver is as good as proprietary driver.
Sorry for the unclarity… I install it via USB boot. I download the official kde iso and burn it into the USB by balena etcher. I tried to download it via proprietary mode, which is my original sole object, but failed due to some uncompatible hardware, which I don’t know how to solve, causing black screen. This is the issue caused by nvidia driver I guess.
I actually stuck between the steps between 3 and 4, I cannot see any graphic, with the manjaro logo blinking for a while and then turn to black screen. I tried to get tty to reinstall some of the driver, but without any good feedback. The open source one failed after doing sudo pacman -Syu, I guess it install some nvidia stuff
I’m confused here:
Are you trying to download some stuff, or are you trying to install Manjaro?
My guide doesn’t include the sudo command.
Can you follow my guide and see if it works?
I am trying to install manjaro
works here, but I always run sudo pacman -Syu before 
and I reckon it is unstable if it run such command and fails to reload kde.
I thought the problem comes by hardware incompatibility, but I don’t know how to solve it by downloading certain packages
Great!
Your objective is met then!
Enjoy Manjaro~
A quick advice:
Please provide ONLY the necessary facts whenever you seek support (your objective, your hardware, your issue - and how to reproduce the issue), and others will step in and diagnose.
but in this case I have to be careful whenever I try to update my system 
I have manjaro running well on another computer, I expect it to be as good as that I actually really appreciate manjaro hhh.
you are right, I am still learning to seek help on the forum, it is my first time. I guess I need some guidance to configure my hardware driver properly to make sure my system can run stablely
When you run the command sudo pacman -Syu in live media, the command only last while you are still in live media.
You should be updating your Manjaro, AFTER you fresh installation, and preferably AFTER your 1st boot.
And please DO reboot after update.
Some system configs will report error, if you do not reboot after update.
And if you are concern about breaking your system, do separate Home folder from / to different partitions.
You can also consider Timeshift for system backup.
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████████ ████████ Kernel: 6.6.44-1-MANJARO
████████ ████████ ████████ Uptime: 2 hours, 12 mins
████████ ████████ ████████ Packages: 2100 (pacman), 10 (flatpak)
████████ ████████ ████████ Shell: bash 5.2.26
████████ ████████ ████████ Resolution: 2560x1440
████████ ████████ ████████ DE: Plasma 6.0.5
████████ ████████ ████████ WM: KWin
████████ ████████ ████████ WM Theme: Oxygen
████████ ████████ ████████ Theme: [Plasma], Breeze-Dark [GTK2], Breeze [GTK3]
████████ ████████ ████████ Icons: [Plasma], breeze [GTK2/3]
Terminal: konsole
CPU: 13th Gen Intel i9-13900H (20) @ 5.200GHz
GPU: Intel Raptor Lake-P [Iris Xe Graphics]
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Max-Q / Mobile
Memory: 5205MiB / 15616MiB
neofetch from another computer of mine
yes, I do the reboot… and boot into black screen , I mean, that means unstable right? there must be some config error that doesn’t shown for the first time, and it is really unstable
If my understanding is correct:
- you performed installation successfully.
- you rebooted.
- you updated the system with no issue.
- you did not tweak other settings.
- you rebooted.
- black screen.
Can you show the log, /var/log/pacman.log?
Since it is a fresh installation, and you only perform 1 time of update, there should be only records for 1 date.
And if the step in (1) to (6) is reproducible, you have to copy out the log before (5), otherwise, you would have problem to extract that information.
When installing Manjaro, did you try booting with proprietary drivers in the boot menu in the live USB?
Otherwise, try to reinstall and boot with proprietary drivers this time.
I tried, when booting into proprietary mode, it first have the logo of manjaro blinking, and then it boot into black screen. It even won’t show the graphic instruction for the installation steps. I have tried several steps to deal with it but failed.
I read your post again and just saw you mentioned about not being able to boot with proprietary drivers.
To clarify, you booted with open source drivers successfully? I don’t know what your question is. Why do you want to install with proprietary drivers if open source drivers are working alright? You also mentioned asking for help with KDE 6 and Hyprland, so I’m not sure what you are looking for help with.
let me do the test again I tried endeavouros later and have other problems I guess I need to stick to one first.
Did you read and follow this? Configure Graphics Cards - Manjaro
Nvidia card might require additional stuff in Kernel Commandline. At least I did.
sudo nano /etc/default/grub
Add this to the end.
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=“… nvidia_drm.modeset=1”
Then:
sudo update-grub
From the Arch wiki: " Note: If you are using Wayland you should not restart until after following #DRM kernel mode setting or you may end up with a black screen."
OK, so currently I switch back to manjaro now, the thing is:
- I try to install KDE version
- I choose proprietary mode, it cannot boot into a black screen for USB pendrive, so it means I cannot install via proprietary mode.
- I switch to opensource mode, and it can install properly, I follow the graphic install instruction and install it. I haven’t done anything but reboot directly
- reboot, and boot into black screen, how can I solve it?
so this is the current situation. Nosudo pacman -Syuyet.
@zhongsiu @wind77 @yoel
I can add nomodeset in the grub parameters, but I guess it is only a temporary solution.
and I also find that the cursor cannot move smooth… the touchpad driver must have some issue
Please provide this.