Well, if you don’t like the customizations you can still install Manjaro from CLI. Then, on top of that installation you can install a Vanilla GNOME 40 and then customize it the way you want.
In my opinion, the Manjaro customizations target an entry-level market. That’s part of the distribution’s appeal and vision to reach both advanced users and beginners.
I’m going to be honest here, if it wasn’t for the “Manjaro Customization crap” I wouldn’t even have considered it.
Sure, I don’t think I use it a lot any more, at least not consciously, but the Manjaro customizations is what drew me in the first place. It’s what makes Manjaro, thus Linux, less intimidating and allows people to enjoy the simplicity, which is Manjaro’s whole philosophy.
And, I found it only natural to move on from the basics to the more advanced stuff, which isn’t the most advanced even. But, if you don’t want to go there, then you don’t have to, thanks to Manjaro’s customization crap.
Edit:
Majaro’s “Customization crap” is what makes Manjaro, well, Manjaro. If you want something without it, you don’t want Manjaro. Then you can go ahead to Gentoo - much, much, much less to no “Customization crap” there.
OK, I’ll keep quiet and get off my soapbox now.
i just booted my gnome on rpi400, it’s still very messed up. slow, double icons, ghosting, just unusable.
i have no problem with them taking there time so things get fixed right.
seems like a lot still needs fixing.
Manjaro is Manjaro because of its unique customisations…Otherwise there are many others who just ship the stock default gnome (so how r u even a distinguishable distro anyway?)
So please be patient…The devs are working really hard to give u the best experience.
If u have a deficit of patience( & u don’t love Manjaro) then u can move on…
This is an valid opinion, and something we consider at least twice a year when there is a major gnome update.
The benefits are significant:
There are some downsides also though:
So, for a long time we tried to compromise between these positions. With gnome-layout-switcher, the extension library has grown a bit out of hand. It usually doesn’t get this bad, with gnome40 it was to be expected.
I use Manjaro Gnome traditional layout, my wife stay on Linux because that.
Edit: Another Desktop could be used, like Plasma, but is heavily bloated kdWhatever all over the installation, that is not Manjaro issue, is KDE fault.
Thats probably not bad. There is no need to revamp GNOME and not even wanted by the devs. There are other desktops who do the job just fine be default.
Fedora is not Arch based and Arch is not that easy to install. Both of them don’t compare to Manjaro. Maybe EndeavourOS, I dont know
That depends. I dont think that certain extensions are wrong or anything. Just a distro who depends that much on outside sources to keet up the work as well as that much changes made on upstream work that it is stuck to an old versions for that long.
For 40, yes. But for following releases it would speed up everything by a lot because it’s mostly upstream already.
That’s exactly the problem. It will not get better in the future and I doubt that at some point Manjaro will maintain all the extensions themself because upstream devs will not do this anymore and Manjaro was shipping them at some point.
No it won’t.
All the manjaro customizations would still need to be fixed/adjusted and gnome packages could not be pushed out any sooner because this would break existing installations.
If we moved to more vanilla gnome experience, it would need a lengthy enough transition period. But after that, yes, it would speed things up significantly. It would also mean that people would rely on upstream directly for the extensions, and they would break twice a year.
i just did a minimal+gnome on my rpi400 & it’s working perfectly, i’m using xorg.
with the manjaro version from the manjaro-arm-installer, it was very bad, slow, double icons, text on top of text.
Hello,
is there a way to update to the gnome 40 versions of all the held back packages without switching to unstable branch, i.e. without updating any other packages?
Thank you.
I don’t mind waiting (reasonably long) and understand how difficult the situation is for the Manjaro team.
That said, I don’t think people who want customization over everything else go with the GNOME edition. There’s Plasma & Xfce for those people. I’d much rather have quick updates & bugfixes with green-ish Adwaita clone and minimal extensions, rather then often half-baked themes & a bunch of extensions I don’t really use.
Again,
Was this response targeted at me? If so, it’s not really what I’m looking for. Rather, I’m looking for a way on my system to upgrade to the gnome 40 packages from the unstable branch. but keep all other packages from the stable branch. Can this be done?
Thank you
No, either update all packages or nothing.
I actually almost got chills reading that. The recipe for instability and trouble that represents is huge. Trust me, try it on a dev build first…
Are they multiplying? Did you lose control?
Any news? Does anyone know when will manjaro have gnome 40?
